
The Outlier Ventures Podcast
The Outlier Ventures Podcast is your gateway to the future of tech and culture—from Web3 to AI and beyond. This is the home for our deep dives, including The Post Web Audio Documentary, The Post Web Unplugged, and exclusive interviews from Riyadh and accelerator programs worldwide. Each episode brings insights from founders, experts, and visionaries shaping what’s next.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal or financial advice. Consult a qualified professional for guidance.
Latest episodes

Sep 23, 2020 • 52min
DeFi-lization of Non Fungible Tokens, Whale Shark of $WHALE
Whale Shark is the pseudo-anonymous founder of the $WHALE NFT collector community, with the largest social currency by market cap in the world, built in just 12 months, and backed by the world's largest collection of non-fungible tokens.
We talk about the difference between NFTs, from gaming collectibles to digital fine art, how they can be used to collateralize an asset backed crypto currency, and the power of principle based communities in Web 3.
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Sep 21, 2020 • 45min
Why We’ve Only Just Got Started in Web 3, Joseph Lubin of Consensys
Joseph Lubin, Co-Founder of Ethereum and Founder & CEO of Consensys, talks about his continuous mission to improve Web 3’s fledgling but critical ‘trust layer’ for the Internet and how it can bring about ‘granular governance’.
We cover his early background in machine learning and autonomous systems research and why he believes creating ‘AI Lego’ is as important to Web 3 as Money Lego. As well as the benefits and challenges of being a fast follower, the promise of ETH2 and improvements to Meta Mask as well as the roll out of their Ethereum Enterprise proposition Quorum - he also hints at an exciting new DeFi stack...

Sep 17, 2020 • 48min
Building a Responsible Data Economy, Dawn Song of Oasis Labs
Dawn is founder & CEO of Oasis Lab & Network, as well as an award-winning professor at Berkeley, working on world leading research in applied cryptography, security, blockchain and machine learning - as well as being a serial entrepreneur.
We talk about spinning out deep tech startups from academia as well as her important mission to create a more responsible data economy based on privacy and user centricity.

Sep 14, 2020 • 1h 9min
Creating the DeFi Substrate for Polkadot, Bette Chen of Acala Network
Bette co-founder of Acala Network talks us through her teams passionate belief in a multichain universe, being inspired by Gavin Wood, and why they believe Polkadot will both relieve Ethereum of some of its economic load and allow a greater democratisation of DeFi to grow the pie for Web 3.
We talk about the DeFi paradox of yield vs efficiency, the challenges and sustainability of yield farming, ‘progressive decentralisation’ and the creation of the world's first trustless decentralised sovereign wealth fund.

Sep 10, 2020 • 58min
Curating the Social Layer for Crypto Art & NFTs, John Craine of SuperRare
Join some of the world’s most exciting elements of the Web 3 ecosystem, for one-day virtual demos, panels, and more, September 15th & 16th 2020: https://www.crowdcast.io/e/diffusion-digital-september
We talk to John Craine about the mission, purpose and growing pains of scaling the world’s leading NFT (Non Fungible Token) platform. We explore how they are breaking out of the ‘crypto art’ niche to become a social layer, and network, for the curation of digital fine art.
We look at the market for this new asset class, its experiments in growing forms of multimedia, and its experience in both the physical and virtual world.

Sep 7, 2020 • 36min
Going Over the Top of Central Bank Crypto Currencies, with Premier of Bermuda, Edward David Burt MP
Bermuda is one of the only environments with regulatory equivalence with the US and EU and the ‘Risk capital’ of the world, for insurance and reinsurance.
Their Premier, the youngest in his country's history, and with a masters in IT from George Washington, holds a uniquely high level of technical literacy talks with refreshing nuance about creating an innovation first environment to evolve Web 3 startups, in particular in Digital Assets and DeFi, without the licensing overhead burden whilst still maintaining a world beating standard in compliance. We look at how opacity hinders crypto, and why choosing a ‘transparency focused jurisdiction’ like Bermuda vs ‘privacy jurisdiction’ is key for Web 3 startups to be accepted by industry and capital markets.

Sep 2, 2020 • 46min
Applying a Vertically Driven Approach to Web 3 and DeFi, Stani Kulechov of Aave
Stani talks about why coming out of the Nordics so early Aave (previously ETh Lend) they had no choice but to be community financed and therefore driven as well as the challenges and benefits of being a first mover in Web 3, and why in DeFi there are no competitors only direct or indirect cooperation. We explore how they evolved their token, its features and governance over time and their Vertical rather than purely Horizontal approach to product development and customer acquisition as well as how he believes DeFi will both interact with and consume Fintech.
Join some of the world’s most exciting elements of the Web 3 ecosystem, for one-day virtual demos, panels, and more September 15th & 16th 2020: https://www.crowdcast.io/e/diffusion-digital-september

Aug 26, 2020 • 34min
Network Lifecycle Investing, Non Fungible Tokens & Digital Art, Jake Brukhman of CoinFund
Jake Brukhman is Founder of CoinFund which has been investing in blockchain since 2016. Through his unique experience in computer science, quantitative trading and product management at places like Amazon, he and his team have developed an approach to Web 3 called ‘Network Lifecycle Investing’, where they work with startups in both an early stage venture capacity but also helping bootstrap networks as they mature.
He talks about ‘dogfooding’ Web 3 tech like DAOs, as the 3rd member of Moloch DAO, and actively participating in staking or mining in networks like Live Peer. As a visual artist and creative himself we go deep into his passion and investment thesis in Digital Art and NFTs (Non Fungible Tokens).
Join some of the world’s most exciting elements of the Web 3 ecosystem, for one-day virtual demos, panels, and more September 15th & 16th 2020: https://www.crowdcast.io/e/diffusion-digital-september

Aug 19, 2020 • 46min
Bringing AI Lego to Blockchains, Toby Simpson of Fetch.ai
Toby Simpson is co-founder and COO of Fetch.ai, an open decentralised machine learning network. We talk about his three decades of work in agent based systems: creating MMORGs (massively multiplayer online role playing games) in the 90’s, to biologically inspired systems as Head of Software Design at DeepMind, which went on to be acquired by Google.
We look at how these experiences led him to create the world’s first blockchain-based decentralised AI, and its use cases, from DeFi to removing inefficiencies in complex mobility systems.
Join some of the world’s most exciting elements of the Web 3 ecosystem, for one-day virtual demos, panels, and more September 15th & 16th 2020: https://www.crowdcast.io/e/diffusion-digital-september

Aug 17, 2020 • 53min
Building on the Shoulders of Bitcoin, Mark Wilcox of 21e8
Jamie speaks to Mark Wilcox, Founder of 21e8 (The Magic Number Company) the pioneering ecosystem of computational data markets - competitive systems that combine real-time content creation with distributed data exchange.
They discuss everything from building businesses in crypto, what the computational data market is, and what Mark looks for in his community.
Join some of the world’s most exciting elements of the Web 3 ecosystem, for one-day virtual demos, panels, and more September 15th & 16th 2020: https://www.crowdcast.io/e/diffusion-digital-september