From What If to What Next

Today's podcast was recorded live in Paris, in the shadow of the Eiffel Tower. As part of the wonderful ChangeNOW festival in the Grand Palais Ephémère I had the pleasure of sitting down with Otto Sharmer in the ChangeNOW podcast booth for an in depth conversation and journey into the future. Otto is the creator of the Theory U model of change, and spends much of his time teaching the model to groups around the world. The previous day he and I had both been speakers at the festival (you can see him here and me here). We also had a question from the audience from among those sitting outside the booth. My thanks to the organisers and to Otto for making this possible. I hope you enjoy it.

You're in for a treat this week. I so enjoyed this conversation. In this episode I was joined by Laura Baldwin, British Olympic sailor, Transition and XR activist, and co-founder of Sport LOCAL for Life, and David Garrido, who is a sports broadcaster, initially on the BBC, and now on Sky, with a particular area of expertise in the crossover between sport and sustainability. How would it be if the world of sport became one of the key drivers for the great Transition that we so need to see? Stand by for the kind of passion, the never-say-die, fight-until-the-final-whistle, we're-all-in-this-together kind of spirit that you find at its very best with sports people. One of my favourite episodes so far.

This week's podcast features Rebecca Wrigley, Chief Executive of Rewilding Britain, and Eduard Muller, an educator involved in Costa Rica's forest cover transformation. They discuss the potential bounceback of nature, thriving biodiversity examples, the impact on people's imagination, and Costa Rica's success story. Other topics include building a better system for biodiversity, resistance to change in agroforestry, soil health, the correlation between soil health, carbon capture, and biodiversity, shifting education to include learning from nature, and the need for a paradigm shift toward a sustainable relationship with nature.

We're back, and boy oh boy are you in for a treat. Since Episode One there were two guests I most wanted to have on this podcast. The first, adrienne maree brown, I was fortunate enough to speak to in Episode Fifty. The second I am sharing with you today. This time there's just one guest, and it is the brilliant prison abolition activist Mariame Kaba. I've admired her work, and her writing, for years now, and it was such a delight to spend 45 minutes in conversation with her. I'm not going to say anything more, other than that I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did.

Recent research, entitled The Future of Consumption in an 1.5°C World, carried out by the University of Leeds, C40 Cities and Arup, powerfully shows that the world's comfortably off need to do the most to reduce the world's carbon emissions and need to reduce the impacts of their consumption by two thirds by 2030. But this will only happen if it feels like a move towards something rather than being dragged away from something irreplaceable, if it feels thrilling, like something that spreads and becomes contagious. And, perhaps most importantly, if everyone can see that it is improving, rather than impoverishing, peoples' lives and experience. So what might a real push to support people in reducing their individual and household carbon emissions look like? My two guests this week are Dr. Vanessa Timmer, Executive Director of OneEarth Living, a Vancouver-based nonprofit 'think and do tank' advancing sustainable everyday living around the world, and Tom Bailey, one of the co-creators of Take the Jump, a new and fast growing grassroots climate movement. As you'll hear, they have both been giving this a lot of thought.

This was such a beautiful conversation to be part of, with two old friends, and a story that I play at least a small role in. In 2015, Transition Network, an organisation I had co-founded, undertook a transition of its own, from a pretty conventional management model to a non-hierarchical structure that distributed power, using Holocracy. We had to learn how to do it, and were brilliantly supported by Université du Nous, who support and advise organisations on how to do this. For this episode of FWIWN I am joined by Sarah McAdam, one of the key people in Transition Network who made this happen and who now supports other organisations in making such shifts, and Guillaume Dorvaux, one of UDN's trainers who trained the team.

Prof. Sunny Singh, a writer and activist championing decolonisation, and Nonhlanhla Makuyana, a community organiser and artist, dive deep into the transformative potential of a decolonised economic system. They envision a vibrant 2030 filled with sustainability and cultural joy. The conversation tackles the lasting impacts of colonialism on today's economy, advocating for wealth redistribution through tax policy and highlighting grassroots alternatives like saving circles. Their insights push the boundaries of imagination, urging a revaluation of societal worth beyond profit.

If you were one of those kids in school who stared out of the window most of the time, this episode is for you. I'm joined by Kwesia X, aka City Girl in Nature (check out her many amazing videos), and by Ben Rawlence, author of three books, most recently The Treeline and founder and director of Black Mountains College. It's a beautiful and thought-provoking conversation. Just how different could our education system be, and how would the imagination flourish if we made those changes? Classrooms? So last year.

Della Duncan, a renegade economist focused on post-capitalist economics, and Jennifer Hinton, a systems researcher and activist for a sustainable economy, dive into the transformative idea of a not-for-profit economy. They discuss how shifting away from profit motives could reduce inequality and ecological harm. With inspiring examples, they outline practical steps for businesses and nonprofits to adopt this model, emphasizing community connection and mental health benefits. Imagine a future where everyday life thrives without the profit chase!

This week I'm joined by two of the greatest practitioners of the imagination that I know. Dr. Penny A Hay is an artist, educator and researcher, Reader in Creative Teaching and Learning and Research Fellow Bath Spa University and Director of Research, House of Imagination. Signature projects include School Without Walls and Forest of Imagination. Ruth Sapsed is the Director of Cambridge Curiosity and Imagination (CCI), an arts and well-being charity that cultivates creative communities in Cambridgeshire and beyond. Their Artscapers report is essential reading for anyone interested in boosting the imaginations of young people, deeply inspiring. This is a beautiful conversation, one that will open up all sorts of new thinking and insights. As always, do let me know what you think!