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J.P. Morgan
“Making Sense,” the podcast channel from J.P. Morgan’s Commercial & Investment Bank, brings you views and analysis from the Investment Banking, Markets and Research businesses. In each episode, experts discuss the latest market outlooks, trends and developments impacting our complex global economy.
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Jun 24, 2025 • 24min
Navigating the hedge fund frontier: Insights from the Elo Pension Fund
Kari Vatanen, head of Asset Allocation and Alternatives at Elo, one of Finland's largest pension funds, discusses the evolving landscape of investing. He highlights the significance of hedge funds and illiquid assets in portfolio diversification amidst market uncertainties. Vatanen shares insights on Elo's asset allocation strategy, emphasizing a balanced 60-40 portfolio approach. The conversation also touches on the challenges of valuing illiquid assets and the need for transparency and collaboration in asset management, especially during inflationary periods.

Jun 20, 2025 • 25min
Trading Insights: Data in the discretionary investment process with AKO Capital’s CEO
Patrick Hargreaves, the CEO of AKO Capital and PM of the AKO Capital Global Fund, dives into the firm's quality investment philosophy and the importance of identifying 'patterns of quality' in companies. He explains how specialized teams in market research, forensic accounting, and data science work alongside analysts to enhance investment decisions. The discussion also highlights the role of machine learning in investment processes while emphasizing the enduring significance of human judgment. Hargreaves shares insights on long-term strategies and learning from past mistakes.

Jun 17, 2025 • 18min
Trading Insights: The rise in European trading volumes
Chris Andrew, the Head of Market Structure and Regulatory Change in EMEA, brings his expertise in European capital markets to the discussion. He and Eloise Goulder explore the impressive 38% surge in European trading volumes, driven by geopolitical shifts and sector dynamics. They highlight the potential for European equities to outperform the US market. The conversation also dives into the urgent need for reforms to integrate capital markets across Europe and the challenges of creating a savings and investments union to enhance security and funding.

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Jun 13, 2025 • 19min
A deep dive into the world of investment-grade private credit
Christian O’Donnell, Managing Director at J.P. Morgan, dives into the rapidly evolving world of investment-grade private credit. He highlights how this market differs from public credit, showcasing its unique benefits for corporations and the growing demand for capital. O’Donnell discusses tailored debt solutions, the critical role of financial institutions in navigating risks, and how the landscape is changing with more public investors entering the space. Expect insights into market dynamics and strategies for capital-intensive businesses.

Jun 10, 2025 • 24min
Private credit branches out
Jake Pollack, head of North America Credit Trading & Global Credit Financing at J.P. Morgan, shares insights on the evolving private credit market. He discusses the impact of economic uncertainty on private credit strategies and the growth of diverse asset classes. Pollack highlights the resilience of private credit amidst market volatility and explains the benefits of co-lending strategies. The conversation also delves into the emergence of private credit collateralized loan obligations and the complexity of navigating this dynamic financial landscape.

Jun 6, 2025 • 10min
May jobs report: “Steady as she goes”
The U.S. continued to add jobs at a steady pace in May, and the unemployment rate remained at 4.2% for the third straight month. Looking ahead however, factors including tariffs and immigration policy could lead to a slowdown in the labor market. What does all this mean for the health of the consumer as well as the wider economy? Join chief U.S. economist Michael Feroli and Lauren Brice from the U.S. Rates Sales team as they unpack the latest numbers.
This episode was recorded on June 6, 2025.
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Jun 3, 2025 • 22min
Are conditions favorable for an IPO market boom?
In this discussion, Keith Canton, the Head of Americas Equity Capital Markets, and Gaurav Maria, the Head of U.S. Equity-Linked Capital Markets, delve into the IPO market's recent performance. They analyze the decline in IPO volumes, driven by market volatility and geopolitical tensions. The duo highlights innovative strategies within the convertible market and discusses the emerging sector diversity in IPOs. With cautious optimism, they explore factors that could spark a resurgence, including refinancing opportunities and market resilience.

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May 30, 2025 • 23min
Back to basis: Why the Treasury basis trade is in focus
In this discussion, Brian Fitzsimmons, Head of North America Rates Securities Trading at J.P. Morgan, shares his expertise on the U.S. Treasury cash-futures basis trade. He explains the intricacies of this arbitrage strategy and its relevance amid market volatility. The conversation dives into the dynamics of leverage, regulatory impacts on treasury demand, and the implications for financial stability. They also explore the challenges posed by increased Treasury issuance and the importance of managing liquidity and counterparty credit risk.

May 27, 2025 • 17min
Navigating the bank loan market: Trends, volumes and strategies
In this engaging discussion, Patrick Griffin, a Managing Director at JP Morgan, shares his expertise in navigating the bank loan market. He highlights how this market differs from other credit avenues, emphasizing borrower-lender relationships. Key insights include current trends of declining mergers and increased refinancing, alongside strategies for CFOs to optimize capital raising. Patrick also discusses the importance of flexibility in credit agreements and building robust bank relationships to enhance financial outcomes.

May 23, 2025 • 24min
Trading Insights: All about alternative data
Mark Fleming-Williams, Head of Data Sourcing at CFM and creator of The Alternative Data Podcast, joins a dynamic discussion with Eloise Goulder from J.P. Morgan. They dive into the value and challenges of alternative data in finance, detailing effective methods for data assessment and the growing competition in the field. Fleming-Williams shares insights on the evolution of alternative data, highlighting credit card data's significance and how AI is transforming data analysis. They emphasize the importance of relationships in navigating this complex landscape.