
That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Latest episodes

Sep 12, 2023 • 1h 36min
Post-Graduate Psychopath
This week, Kara and Liza recap “Post-Graduate Psychopath” (Season 22, Episode 14) and dissect the criminal life of Willie Bosket.In support of the SAG-AFTRA strike, there will be no guests on this episode. SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The New York Times 5The New York Times 6The New York Times 7The New York Times 8The Marshall ProjectThe Los Angeles TimesWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Psychopath Test: A Journey Through the Madness Industry by Jon RonsonNext week’s episode will be “Futility” (Season 4, Episode 22). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 5, 2023 • 1h 54min
Born Psychopath
In this episode, Liza and Kara cover “Born Psychopath” (Season 14, Episode 19) and discuss the “Child of Rage” Beth Thomas.In support of the SAG-AFTRA strike, there will be no guests on this episode. SOURCES:Child of Rage - (Full Documentary)DistractifyPractical PieWikipedia - Child of RageABC NewsWikipedia - Candace NewmakerPsychology TodayThe AtlanticWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:When Your Child Is A Psychopath By Barbara Bradley HagertyNext week’s episode will be “Post-Graduate Psychopath” (Season 22, Episode 14). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 29, 2023 • 1h 45min
Web
Today, Kara and Liza recap “Web” (Season 7, Episode 21) and discuss the tortured life of Justin Berry.In support of the SAG-AFTRA strike, there will be no guests on this episode. SOURCES:The New York TimesNew York MagazineWikipedia - Kurt EichenwaldKurtEichenwald.comWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Porn ConversationNext week’s episode will be “Born Psychopath” (Season 14, Episode 19). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 22, 2023 • 1h 8min
Totem
In this episode, the hosts discuss the horrific murder of Sandra Cantu and the investigation that unfolds. They also touch on topics like Jewish culture, racquetball, and the Lumi deodorant. The chapter ends by previewing the next episode on the dark web.

Aug 15, 2023 • 2h 15min
Lead w/ John Gallagher Jr.
In this episode, Kara and Liza recap “Lead” (Season 10, Episode 15) and cover several real-life crimes including multiple cases of recalled dangerous toys and the alleged sex abuse perpetrated by famed pediatrician Mel Levine. Plus, they have a wonderful convo with the very talented John Gallagher Jr. (Spring Awakening).This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike.SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4NBC NewsABC NewsWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Lead Poisoning Health Effects in ChildrenNext week’s episode will be “Totem” (Season 12, Episode 20). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 8, 2023 • 2h 20min
Wednesday's Child w/ Jessica Phillips
Today, Liza and Kara cover “Wednesday's Child” (Season 15, Episode 14). They discuss several upsetting cases including the disappearance of Sky Metalwala and the abandonment of Artem Saveliev. Plus, they chat with the phenomenal Jessica Phillips aka Pippa Cox.This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike.SOURCES:PeopleWikipedia - Disappearance of Sky MetalwalaKing 5 NewsWikipedia - Disruption (adoption)The New York TimesForbesUnited States Citizenship and Immigration ServicesCBS NewsNPRWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Adoption Disruption/DissolutionNext week’s episode will be “Lead” (Season 10, Episode 15). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 1, 2023 • 1h 48min
Spousal Privilege w/ Chad L. Coleman
This week Liza and Kara recap “Spousal Privilege” (Season 16, Episode 8), investigate the Ray Rice case, and chat with the marvelous Chad L. Coleman (The Walking Dead, The Wire).SOURCES:EssenceWikipedia - Ray RiceTMZMen's JournalWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Love Life Now FoundationNext week’s episode will be “Wednesday's Child” (Season 15, Episode 14). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 25, 2023 • 2h 3min
Class w/ Trieste Kelly Dunn
In this episode, Kara and Liza recap “Class” (Season 7, Episode 17), dissect the disturbing murder of Jennifer Cave, and have a great chat with the wonderful Trieste Kelly Dunn (Banshee, Blindspot). SOURCES:Los Angeles TimesNew York PostAustin American-StatesmanKXANThe Austin ChronicleCBS NewsTexas District & County Attorneys AssociationWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:National Problem Gambling HelplineNext week’s episode will be “Spousal Privilege” (Season 16, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 18, 2023 • 1h 44min
The Third Guy w/ Rick Gonzalez
Today, Liza and Kara cover “The Third Guy” (Season 1, Episode 16). They discuss multiple cases including the murder of Mabel Monahan and the crimes of Johnny Paul Penry. Plus, they speak to the wonderful Rick Gonzalez (Coach Carter, Old School). This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike.SOURCES:Los Angeles MagazineWikipedia - Barbara GrahamThe New York TimesWikipedia - Johnny Paul PenryWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Intellectual Disability and the Death PenaltyNext week’s episode will be “Class” (Season 7, Episode 17). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 11, 2023 • 1h 58min
Ballerina w/ Matthew Lillard
This week Kara and Liza recap “Ballerina” (Season 10, Episode 16) and explore two truly wild cases; Betty Neumar (a.k.a. "The Black Widow Granny") and Sante and Kenneth Kimes. Plus, they speak to the legend Matthew Lillard (Scream, Scooby-Doo).This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike.SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The New York Times 5Vanity FairThe Daily MailCleveland.comSyracuse.comThe Florida Times-UnionLos Angeles TimesThe Maverick FilesWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Like Mother, Like Son: The Strange Story Of Santé & Kenneth KimesNext week’s episode will be “The Third Guy” (Season 1, Episode 16). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.