
That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Latest episodes

Apr 16, 2024 • 2h 4min
Penetration w/ J.C. MacKenzie
Liza and Kara recap “Penetration” (Season 12, Episode 8), revisit the case of Matthew Hale and his target Judge Joan Lefkow, and interview Scorcese and SVU regular, J.C. MacKenzie. SOURCES:Wikipedia - Park51Wikipedia - Joan LefkowPark51.orgThe New York TimesNew York PostLos Angeles TimesChicago TribuneWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Southern Poverty Law CenterNext week’s episode will be “Twenty-Five Acts” (Season 14, Episode 3). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 9, 2024 • 2h 25min
Stocks & Bondage w/ Geoffrey Nauffts
In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza cover SVU’s “Stocks & Bondage” (Season 1; Episode 9), the cases of financial criminal Martin Frankel and homicide victim Sharon Lopatka, and talk with playwright, TV writer and Dick Wolf Universe regular, Geoffrey Nauffts.SOURCES:CNBCHartford CourantGreenwich TimeToledo BladeIndependentWashington Post - 1Washington Post - 2Wall Street Journal - 1Wall Street Journal - 2Wall Street Journal - 3Wall Street Journal - 4Wall Street Journal - 5Wall Street Journal - 6Wall Street Journal - 7NY TimesThe Herald-TimesCNNWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Trevor Project - "Support for Self-Harm Recovery"Next week’s episode will be “Penetration” (Season 12, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 2, 2024 • 1h 20min
Missing Pieces
Today, Liza and Kara cover “Missing Pieces” (Season 13, Episode 5) and the hoax perpetrated by Joseph Bales and Helene Lemay. SOURCES:NY Times - 1NY Times - 2Washington PostTampa Bay TimesWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:CDC: SIDSNext week’s episode will be “Stocks & Bondage” (Season 1, Episode 9). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 26, 2024 • 2h 21min
Crush w/ Noel Fisher
This week, Kara and Liza recap “Crush” (Season 10, Episode 20), the Kids for Cash scandal, and interview the SVU character we all love to hate, Dale Stuckey, aka the wonderful Noel Fisher.SOURCES:Juvenile Law CenterAP News - 1AP News - 2"Kids for Cash"Philadelphia InquirerNBC NewsNY Times - 1NY Times - 2CNNWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:"Kids for Cash" DocumentaryNext week’s episode will be “Missing Pieces” (Season 13, Episode 5). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 19, 2024 • 1h 24min
Perverted Justice
On today’s episode, Liza and Kara cover the SVU episode “Perverted Justice” (Season 16, Episode 21) and the story of Chaneya Kelly.SOURCES:The New YorkerNew York MagazineNBC NewsChange.orgWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Innocence ProjectNext week’s episode will be “Crush” (Season 10, Episode 20). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 12, 2024 • 2h 18min
Cage w/ Marlyne Barrett
In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza break down “Cage” (Season 8, Episode 8), the cases of Michael & Sharen Gravelle and the tragic death of Candace Newmaker, and talk to the Dick Wolf Universe mainstay, Marlyne Barrett.SOURCES:NY Times - 1NY Times - 2NY Times - 3NY Times - 4NY Times - 5NY Times - 6NY Times - 7NY Times - 8NY Times - 9NY Times - 10NY Times - 11Cleveland.com - 1Cleveland.com - 2CBS NewsNPRNY PostThe News-HeraldNBC News - 1NBC News - 2Washington PostThe LanternSandusky RegisterLA TimesWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Advocates for Children in TherapyNext week’s episode will be “Perverted Justice” (Season 16, Episode 21). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 5, 2024 • 2h 10min
Internal Affairs w/ Marc Menchaca
Liza and Kara cover “Internal Affairs” (Season 15, Episode 4), the NYPD scandals uncovered by Adrian Schoolcraft, and talk with a very talented actor they serendipitously met on an airplane, Marc Menchaca.SOURCES:NY Times - 1NY Times - 2NY Times - 3NY Times - 4NY Times - 5NY PostVillage VoiceWikipedia50-a.org - 150-a.org - 250-a.org - 350-a.org - 450-a.org - 5WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:ACLU - "Taking Action to Stop Police Sexual Violence" Next week’s episode will be “Cage” (Season 8, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 27, 2024 • 1h 48min
Townhouse Incident
On today’s episode, Kara and Liza recap SVU’s “Townhouse Incident” (Season 17, Episode 11) and break down the horrific Cheshire home invasion murders. SOURCES:Washington PostWikipediaNY Times - 1NY Times - 2ABC NewsNY PostThe Cheshire Murders (HBO)New Haven RegisterWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Petit Family FoundationNext week’s episode will be “Internal Affairs” (Season 15, Episode 4). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 20, 2024 • 1h 43min
Down Low in Hell's Kitchen w/ L. Steven Taylor
In this week’s episode, Liza and Kara cover the SVU episode “Down Low in Hell’s Kitchen” (Season 21, Episode 3), the Jussie Smollett hate crime hoax, and interview the charming L. Steven Taylor. SOURCES:BBCFox 5 DCNY TimesVarietyWikipedia - 1Wikipedia - 2WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Human Rights CampaignNext week’s episode will be “Townhouse Incident” (Season 17, Episode 11). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 13, 2024 • 2h 42min
Juvenile w/ Becky Ann Baker
This week, Kara and Liza break down “Juvenile” (Season 4, Episode 9) and cover the two cases it’s based on, the murder of Ruth Pelke and the conviction of Lionel Tate. Plus, they interview the legendary Becky Ann Baker.SOURCES:Rolling StoneUSA TodayDeath Penalty Information CenterIndy StarCNNNY Times - 1NY Times - 2ABC7 Chicago - 1ABC7Chicago - 2Tampa Bay TimesCBS News - 1CBS News - 2Ocala StarBanner - 1Ocala StarBanner - 2Ocala StarBanner - 3WikipediaLA TimesSun SentinelNews On 6WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Sentencing ProjectNext week’s episode will be “Down Low in Hell’s Kitchen” (Season 21, Episode 3). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.