

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
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Mar 30, 2021 • 1h 31min
Conscience w/ Neal Baer
This episode, Liza and Kara cover “Conscience” (Season 6, Episode 6), adolescent murderer Eric M. Smith, and chat with SVU executive producer and showrunner (seasons 2-12), Neal Baer. SOURCES:CBS NewsThe New York TimesDemocrat & ChronicleThe Steuben Courier AdvocateWikipediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:“When Your Child is a Psychopath” - Story by Barbara Bradley Hagerty: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/when-your-child-is-a-psychopath/524502/Next week’s episode will be “Institutional Fail” (Season 17, Episode 4). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 23, 2021 • 1h 39min
Sugar w/ Eric McCormack
This week Kara and Liza celebrate their Sweet 16, talking all things 16th Precinct, “Sugar” (Season 11, Episode 2), and the case of Jasmine Fiore. They also interview the charming and amazing actor, Eric McCormack. SOURCES:Entertainment WeeklyTrue Crime with Aphrodite Jones (Season 2, Episode 7 - Available on Discovery+)ABC NewsWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Red Canary Song: https://www.redcanarysong.net/Next week’s episode will be “Conscience” (Season 6, Episode 6). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 16, 2021 • 1h 15min
Broken Rhymes w/ Wyclef Jean
Kara and Liza delve into the world of hip hop in SVU’s “Broken Rhymes” (Season 18, Episode 6) followed by a closer look at the alleged relationship between Tyga and Mia Isabella that it’s based on. Plus, an interview with legendary musician and actor, Wyclef Jean. SOURCES: Lovebscott.comTerezowens.comVICEInternational Business Times - 1International Business Times - 2Daily MirrorWikipedia - 1Wikipedia - 2Wikipedia - 3WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Trans Lifeline: https://translifeline.org/Next week’s episode will be “Sugar” (Season 11, Episode 2). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 9, 2021 • 1h 33min
Stranger w/ Ellen Woglom
On this week’s episode, Kara and Liza breakdown SVU’s “Stranger” (Season 10, Episode 11), and the two crimes it’s based on: serial impostor Frédéric Bourdin and the harrowing story of survivor Elisabeth Fritzl. Plus, an interview with actress Ellen Woglom. SOURCES:(1) Frédéric Bourdin:WikipediaBird In FlightYouTubeTime(2) Elisabeth Fritzl: Independent 1Independent 2The New York TimesThe Daily MirrorWikipediaThe SunWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: National Center for Missing and Exploited Children: https://www.missingkids.org/Next week’s episode will be “Broken Rhymes” (Season 18, Episode 6). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 2, 2021 • 1h 33min
Serendipity w/ Diane Neal
This week’s episode covers SVU’s “Serendipity” (Season 5, Episode 5), the crimes of Dr. John Schneeberger, and Kara and Liza interview SVU legend ADA Casey Novak, actress Diane Neal. SOURCES:Forensic FilesCrime MagazineCBCWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Joyful Heart Foundation: http://www.joyfulheartfoundation.org/Next week’s episode will be “Stranger” (Season 10, Episode 11). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 23, 2021 • 1h 31min
Counselor, It's Chinatown w/ Margaret Cho
This week, Kara and Liza discuss “Counselor, It’s Chinatown” (Season 21, Episode 7) and The Orchids of Asia Day Spa story. Plus an interview with comedy icon and fellow SVU superfan, Margaret Cho, who portrayed Evelyn Lee.SOURCES:Vanity Fair - 1Vanity Fair - 2Palm Beach Post - 1Palm Beach Post - 2 Palm Beach Post - 3Rolling StoneABC NewsWPTV NewsNY MagWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:From That’s Messed Up listener, Mary Haggerty: Shared Hope International’s informational guide - “Responding to Sex Trafficking Victim Offender Intersectionality” https://sharedhope.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/SH_Responding-to-Sex-Trafficking-Victim-Offender-Intersectionality2020_FINAL.pdfNext week’s episode will be “Serendipity” (Season 5, Episode 5). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 16, 2021 • 1h 23min
Mean w/ Kelli Garner
This episode, Kara and Liza recap “Mean” (Season 5, Episode 17), cover the case of Shanda Sharer, and talk to the ultimate mean girl, Brittany, aka Kelli Garner. SOURCES:The 1990’s: The Deadliest Decade (Episode: The New Girl)WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Stomp Out Bullying: https://www.stompoutbullying.org/Lambda Legal: https://www.lambdalegal.org/know-your-rights/article/trans-resources-incarcerated-peopleNext week’s episode will be “Counselor, It’s Chinatown” (Season 21, Episode 7). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 9, 2021 • 1h 35min
Slaves w/ Dann Florek
This week Kara and Liza are taking it back to the beginning, covering SVU’s “Slaves” (Season 1, Episode 22) and the story of Colleen Stan, plus an interview with Captain Cragen himself, actor Dann Florek.SOURCES:Colleen Stan: Girl in the Box, Part 1Colleen Stan: Girl in the Box, Part 2WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Write to the CA Parole Board and Governor Gavin Newsom to express your concerns about the potential early release of Cameron Hooker. Cameron HookerCDCR #: D18324Board of Parole HearingsPost Office Box 4036Sacramento, CA 95812-4036Phone: 916-445-4072CDCR Office of Survivor Rights and Servicesvictimservices@cdcr.ca.govGovernor Gavin Newsom1303 10th Street, Suite 1173Sacramento, CA 95814Phone: (916) 445-2841parole@gov.ca.govORhttps://govapps.gov.ca.gov/gov40mail/Next week’s episode will be “Mean” (Season 5, Episode 17). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 2, 2021 • 1h 15min
Lost Traveler w/ Scott William Winters
On this week’s episode, Liza and Kara chat “Lost Traveler” (Season 13, Episode 9), the story of Leiby Kletzky, and interview SVU-favorite, Scott William Winters.SOURCES:NYMag -1NYMag - 2The New York TimesNY PostBrooklyn PaperWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:If you want to learn more about the Romani community, this article from The Daily Beast is very informative: https://www.thedailybeast.com/american-gypsies-are-a-persecuted-minority-that-is-starting-to-fight-backScott William Winters program, Prison Fellowship: https://www.prisonfellowship.org/Next week’s episode will be “Slaves” (Season 1, Episode 22). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 26, 2021 • 1h 8min
Pornstar's Requiem w/ Richard T. Jones
Kara and Liza tackle the SVU episode “Pornstar’s Requiem” (Season 16, Episode 5), the story of Belle Knox, and interview the actor who plays a controversial judge, Richard T. Jones.SOURCES:Becoming Belle Knox - Ep 1Becoming Belle Knox - Ep 2Becoming Belle Knox - Ep 3Becoming Belle Knox - Ep 4Becoming Belle Knox - Ep 5The ViewRolling StoneWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:End Rape on Campus: https://endrapeoncampus.org/Next week’s episode will be “Lost Traveler” (Season 13, Episode 9). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.