
That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Latest episodes

Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 49min
Delinquent w/ Marina Squerciati
This week, Liza and Kara recap “Delinquent” (Season 12, Episode 23), discuss the horrifying murders of Canadian serial killer Cody Legebokoff, and interview the incredible Marina Squerciati (Chicago P.D.). SOURCES:The New York TimesNew York PostCBCNational PostWikipedia - Cody Legebokoff WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Making A Serial Killer Next week’s episodes will be “Man Up” & “Man Down" (Season 20, Episodes 1 & 2). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 3, 2025 • 2h 19min
And the Empire Strikes Back & Never Turn Your Back on Them w/ Ben Rappaport
This week, Kara and Liza cover two SVU episodes: “And the Empire Strikes Back” and “Never Turn Your Back on Them” (Season 23, Episodes 1 & 2). They also investigate the disgusting deeds of disgraced former Congressman Matt Gaetz and interview the incredibly charming Ben Rappaport (The Good Wife, Grosse Pointe Garden Society). SOURCES:The 19th NewsNPRABC NewsAxiosBBCLegistormPBSWHYY WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Let Her Go Home Next week’s episode will be “Delinquent” (Season 12, Episode 23). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 27, 2025 • 2h 21min
Consent w/ Tammy Blanchard
On this week’s episode, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU “Consent” (Season 2, Episode 10), dissect the horrible Sara Klein rape case at Brown University, and interview the fabulous Tammy Blanchard (The Invitation, Life with Judy Garland). SOURCES:Los Angeles TimesTimeFeminist Majority FoundationUnited States Department of JusticeWikipedia - Death of Samantha ReidThe New York TimesThe Brown Daily HeraldThe Daily PennsylvanianIowa Cold Cases WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Hunting Ground - Documentary Next week’s episodes will be “And The Empire Strikes Back” & “Never Turn Your Back On Them” (Season 23, Episodes 1 & 2). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 20, 2025 • 2h 37min
Pandora w/ William McNamara
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Pandora” (Season 4, Episode 15), the abduction of Alicia Kozakiewicz by an online predator, and interview the fascinating William McNamara (Stealing Home, Copycat). SOURCES:CBS NewsMass.govBoston HeraldBoston.comLos Angeles TimesCNNNevada AppealPeopleBBCThe LancetThe GuardianNew York PostBBCWikipedia - Operation CathedralThe New York Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Innocent Lives Foundation Next week’s episode will be “Consent” (Season 2, Episode 10). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 13, 2025 • 2h 11min
Risk w/ Erica Tazel
This week, Liza and Kara recap “Risk” (Season 4, Episode 12), discuss the wild crimes of corrupt NYPD officer Michael Dowd, and interview the delightful Erica Tazel (Justified, Lovecraft Country). SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4New York PostWikipedia - Michael Dowd (police officer)New York Magazine WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Seven Five - Documentary Next week’s episode will be “Pandora" (Season 4, Episode 15). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 6, 2025 • 1h 59min
Closet w/ Bailey Chase
This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Closet” (Season 9, Episode 16), discuss the tragic life of professional soccer player Justin Fashanu, and interview the talented Bailey Chase (Saving Grace, Longmire). SOURCES:BritannicaBBC 1BBC 2The GuardianDaily MailThe Pink NewsThese Football Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:LGBT National Coming Out Support Hotline Next week’s episode will be “Risk” (Season 4, Episode 12). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 29, 2025 • 2h 4min
Terrorized w/ Tarek Bishara
This week, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Terrorized” (Season 18, Episode 1), dissect the unspeakably horrific Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, and interview the wonderful Tarek Bishara (The Tale, FBI: International). SOURCES:The New York TimesWikipedia - Omar MateenABC NewsCNNWikipedia - Apple–FBI encryption disputeLos Angeles TimesU.S. Attorney's Office, Central District of California WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:49 Pulses - Documentary Next week’s episode will be “Closet" (Season 9, Episode 16). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 22, 2025 • 1h 50min
Underbelly w/ Charlotte Ray Rosenberg
Today, Kara and Liza discuss “Underbelly” (Season 8, Episode 7), the crimes of 'Pimp Of The Year' Matthew Thompkins, and interview the delightful Charlotte Ray Rosenberg (Little Manhattan, Sneaky Pete). SOURCES:New York PostNews Channel 10Department of JusticeNJ.comKUSASHERLOCNBC NewsWashington PostUnited States District Court For The District Of Columbia WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:PACT Next week’s episode will be “Terrorized” (Season 18, Episode 1). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 15, 2025 • 1h 44min
Brief Interlude w/ Kerry Butler
This week, Liza and Kara recap “Brief Interlude” (Season 14, Episode 23), discuss the tragic Sarai Sierra case, and interview the legendary Kerry Butler (Hairspray, Gilmore Girls: A Year in the Life). SOURCES:ABC NewsThe New York TimesNew York PostBBCamNewYork WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:15 tips for traveling alone as a woman Next week’s episode will be “Underbelly" (Season 8, Episode 7). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 8, 2025 • 2h 7min
Exile w/ Aimée Spring Fortier
This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Exile” (Season 20, Episode 6), discuss the bizarre disappearances of Hannah Upp, and interview the wonderful Aimée Spring Fortier (FBI). SOURCES:The New YorkerThe Virgin Islands Daily NewsThe New York Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The National Alliance to End Homelessness Next week’s episode will be “Brief Interlude” (Season 14, Episode 23). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.