
Bubble Trouble: Laying Out Inconvenient Truths About How Business and Financial Markets Really Work
Bubble Trouble features conversations between economist and author Will Page and independent analyst Richard Kramer that lay out some inconvenient truths about how financial markets really work. Like the “boy who cried wolf,” financial markets have a peculiar tendency to repeat past mistakes and get themselves into “bubble trouble.” They party hard, drink too much of the Kool Aid, and wake up with a pounding hangover...only to do the same thing the next day. With tech dominating daily headlines and teenage traders driving stocks to unprecedented valuations, you might be asking “What’s really going on?” “What am I missing?” Imagine having a set of tour guides to tell you the “story behind the story” of the world’s largest tech companies, and how they bend - or break - the rules of economics. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jul 8, 2024 • 57min
When Bubbles Become Clouds
[Repeat from November, 2023.]For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com(Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.)In this engaging episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page welcome Liam Maxwell, former Chief Technology Officer for the British government and current AWS Senior Advisor, to delve into the transformative potential of the cloud. Together, they break down how cloud-based technologies are revolutionizing different sectors, from governments to private enterprises. Exploring clear cases such as the Ukrainian war situation or the everyday banking experience in Singapore, they highlight the impressive efficiency, flexibility, and speed offered by the cloud. The discussion also touches on the major productivity gains the cloud provides, the importance of building services centered on user needs, and how the digital economy is captured by government indices.00:00 Introduction01:14 Part One01:32 Interview with Liam Maxwell01:54 Liam's Journey in Tech and Government02:25 The Impact of Cloud on Government Services06:40 The Transition from Traditional IT to Cloud15:25 The Role of AI in Cloud Adoption19:24 The Ukraine War and the Role of Cloud20:35 The Process of Moving Ukraine's Data to the Cloud27:56 Reflections on the Impact of Cloud Technology29:33 The Power of Decision Making in Amazon30:26 Reflections on the UK Government's Test and Trace App30:58 Part Two31:27 The Impact of Cloud Technology on Productivity32:01 The Economic Value of Cloud Technology33:33 The Paradox of Technological Efficiency and Economic Growth35:38 The Invisible Contributions of Transformative Technology37:04 The Role of Cloud Technology in Government Services39:00 The Challenges of Measuring the Impact of Tech Jobs39:19 The Potential of Cloud Technology in Enhancing Public Services51:57 The Impact of Tech Neologisms on Service Delivery55:23 Closing Remarks and Reflections56:25 Credits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Jul 1, 2024 • 48min
Calling Bubbles with Benedict Evans (Part Two)
Analyst Benedict Evans discusses AI advancements, Apple's use of AI models, legal tech disruption, and market strategies with hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page. They emphasize careful analysis in the face of rapid innovation and explore the challenges and opportunities presented by technological advancements.

Jun 24, 2024 • 41min
Calling Bubbles with Benedict Evans (Part One)
Tech analyst Benedict Evans discusses the challenges of identifying market bubbles before they burst, focusing on AI, tech industry strategies, and the evolution of AI impact on big tech companies. He delves into AI maximalism and its potential to revolutionize industries, while exploring the dual nature of AI as both a solution and a problem in everyday technologies.

Jun 17, 2024 • 34min
Tech’s Set Piece Marketing
This week we’re going to split lanes as we’ve got breaking news coming out of Canada that Will’s been knee deep in: soon after their Government tried to regulate Google and Meta news, they’re now after Spotify and Netflix. Think contagion and buckle up - this may well be the sign of the regulatory times. Once we’re done with Canadians, we turn our attention to Cuppertino as we’ve just seen the WWDC wrap up the calendar of set piece marketing - Google, Meta, Microsoft and more - all now done and dusted. It's all become a slick operation, but what’s and not said can help us decipher the narratives of the most watched companies on the planet and these events have now gone mainstream.For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com(Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.)In this episode of Bubble Trouble, independent analyst Richard Kramer and economist Will Page delve into the recent regulatory developments in Canada targeting streaming giants like Spotify and Netflix following earlier regulation attempts on Google and Meta. They explore the implications of Canada's new gross revenue contribution policy on streaming services and its potential impact on consumers and competitors. Additionally, the duo examines the wrap-up of Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) and discusses the trends, leaks, and undertones of major tech company events, including the strategic presentations, the nuances of unsaid elements, and the ever-tightening grip of technological giants on the market. The episode aims to provide insights into the evolving landscape of tech regulation and market domination.00:00 Introduction and Overview00:08 Canadian Regulatory News01:12 Impact on Streaming Services01:30 Historical Context of Canadian Regulations02:24 Current Regulatory Actions and Reactions07:51 Tech Giants' Marketing Events08:39 The Magnificent Seven and Market Concentration10:17 The Role of Marketing in Tech11:17 The Evolution of Tech Events18:21 The Importance of Perception in Tech Announcements21:03 Reading Between the Lines32:14 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 10, 2024 • 43min
Gatekeepers and Regulatory Bubbles
This week we turn to regulatory bubbles and the new buzz word: Gatekeepers! What are they, and what are they not and what gates do they actually keep? In forty five days, the European Commission drummed up an answer, while the US DoJ starts a court case about Google paying for search bar placements like Heinz beans play for shelf space in the grocery store. We’ve got 45 minutes with one of the best brains on the topic, Konstantina Bania, a Partner at the top firm Geradin Partners to understand all this. [Repeat from September, 2023.] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 3, 2024 • 39min
DoJ Whacks Ticket Prices
This summer, a lot of us (and our children) will be packing our tents and heading to music festivals and concerts - there is trouble brewing. At one end, good luck buying a ticket and watching those fees add up. At the other end, the DoJ threw down the gauntlet and argued that Live Nation Ticketmaster needs to be broken up. This is big for music, and it’s also big for anti-trust - they’ve actually picked a fight and we’re ringing the bell for round one. Gloves off, where might there be punches below the belt. What can markets learn when the DoJ enters the ring?For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com(Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.)Bubble Trouble: The Live Nation Antitrust CaseIn this episode of Bubble Trouble, Independent Analyst Richard Kramer and Economist Will Page delve into the intricacies of the Live Nation antitrust case brought by the DOJ. They explore the history of antitrust regulations, Live Nation's market dominance, and the implications for the live music industry. The discussion covers topics such as the control of ticketing, venues, and artists by Live Nation, the bundling of services, and the economic impact on smaller venues. The hosts debate the potential outcomes of the case and critique the inefficiencies in the current ticketing system, especially the Ticketmaster app. They also touch on broader issues in live music, including the decline of small venues and the impact of social isolation on festival attendance.00:00 Introduction to Bubble Trouble01:16 Part One01:46 Understanding Antitrust and Live Nation's Market Power03:59 Live Nation's Business Model and Market Impact16:00 Part Two 17:15 The Ticketmaster Experience: A Consumer's Nightmare27:06 Economic Realities of the Live Music Industry34:44 Conclusion and Future Outlook38:15 Credits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 28, 2024 • 47min
Why Stocks Get Whacked
When markets get fooled, stocks get …well, WHACKED, to quote a famous Kramerism. Our audience deserves to know more about volatility - for all the PhDs, MBAs and CFAs working on Wall Street, for all the compliance rules and regulations, why is it that a stock can go from hero to zero so quickly? Why is stability in itself destabilizing?For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com(Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.)Understanding Market Volatility: The Seven Deadly Sins That Get Stocks WhackedIn this episode of Bubble Trouble, hosted by independent analyst Richard Kramer and economist Will Page, the duo delves into the intricacies of stock market volatility and the factors that lead to significant drops in stock values, often referred to as getting 'whacked.' They explore why financial markets remain volatile despite compliance rules and thorough analysis by Wall Street's experts. Using recent examples like Duolingo and Double Verify, they highlight how sentiment, market expectations, and artificial intelligence fears influence stock performance. They introduce the concept of the seven deadly sins—ranging from expectations management to fake it till you make it—that companies and analysts commit, causing stocks to tank. The discussion covers essential themes like the role of credibility, influence of peer performance, external market factors, and the impact of fear and greed. They also touch on larger market dynamics, such as the dominance of tech giants and the influence of algorithmic trading. The episode is both an educational dive into market mechanics and a cautionary tale for investors, emphasizing the importance of understanding broader market sentiments and the potential pitfalls of speculative trading.00:00 Introduction01:18 Part One02:30 Recent Examples of Stocks Getting Whacked06:08 The Role of Expectations in Market Behavior10:53 Credibility and Its Impact on Stocks16:17 The Influence of Peer Groups and Market Share18:19 Mathematical Models and Black Swans23:09 Part Two24:15 The Sheer Size of Companies and Market Impact25:13 Big Companies and Revenue Growth Challenges26:33 Market Dynamics and Money Managers27:04 Thought Experiment: Market Crowding28:53 Taxing Market Capitalization34:18 Fear and Greed in Financial Markets40:11 Unprofitable IPOs and Market Distortions42:47 Seven Deadly Sins of Stock Trading46:22 Conclusion and Final Thoughts46:53 Credits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 13, 2024 • 50min
The Post-Bubble World of Podcasting with James Cridland and Jonas Woost
This week, with the world of podcasting descending on London for the Podcast Show, we’re going to turn the tables on ourselves and get a little introspective, figuring out what is happening with this Podcast format. This time two years ago, we got a little ahead of our skis with Spotify, Amazon and the like spending eight (and nine) figure sums on podcast companies. That bubble burst and now we’re picking up the pieces to see what the future might resemble given its recent roller coaster past. To do that, two guests and two of the very best: James Cridland, author of the bible that is Podnews and Jonas Woost of Bumper. The former understands the industry, the latter understands the listener and by the end of this conversation you’ll find podcasts and podcasting a more rewarding listen. For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com(Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.)The episode features a discussion on the evolving dynamics of podcasting, including the recent burst of the investment bubble in the sector, the impact of this shift, and what the future holds for podcast creators and companies. Guests include James Cridland, editor of Pod News, and Jonas Woost from Bumper, who share insights into the industry trends, listener engagement, and the complexities of podcast advertising. The conversation also explores the nuances of podcast data analysis, the importance of understanding 'actual listening' versus 'downloads', and strategies for podcast growth and monetization. The episode aims to provide a comprehensive look at both the business side of podcasting and the listener engagement aspect, intending to inform and guide podcast creators and industry stakeholders.00:02 Introduction01:02 Part One01:10 Introducing the Experts: Insights from the Front Lines02:43 The Podcasting Landscape: Numbers, Growth, and Challenges06:53 Adapting to Change: Strategies for Success in Podcasting15:48 Understanding Podcast Advertising: Data, Attribution, and Impact22:34 The Evolution of Podcast Metrics: Attention Over Downloads22:43 The Power of Feedback: From Music to Podcasts23:37 Part Two23:46 Navigating the Podcast Landscape: Insights and Strategies24:25 Decoding Podcast Listenership: Beyond the Numbers32:02 The Future of Podcast Advertising: Challenges and Opportunities32:10 The Intimacy of Podcasting: Engaging Niche Audiences41:48 The Podcast Show Preview: Expectations and Predictions Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 6, 2024 • 47min
An X -Rated Account of Twitter with Kurt Wagner
Who doesn’t like to talk about Twitter and Tweets? Word of mouth (or tweet) is the secret sauce of its success. But has it ever been successful? And if it hasn’t, how do you gauge the impact of Elon Musk’s shock therapy over the past two years? Journalist Kurt Wagner joins to share his deep dive profile of the tortured history of Twitter.For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com(Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.)This episode of Bubble Trouble features a conversation with Bloomberg journalist Kurt Wagner, author of 'Battle for the Bird,' a book about Twitter's tumultuous history and evolution, particularly under Elon Musk's ownership. The hosts, independent analyst Richard Kramer and economist Will Page, delve into Twitter’s origins, its struggle to monetize effectively compared to giants like Meta, and the significant influence of Jack Dorsey’s leadership style on the platform's direction. They discuss the platform's missed opportunities, such as Vine and Periscope, and how it became a place where 'good ideas go to die.' The discussion also covers Musk's takeover, his attempts to transform Twitter into 'X', and the challenges of balancing free speech with the need for content moderation and advertiser appeal. Wagner shares insights on the potential future of 'X', the impact of Musk's leadership on the platform's advertising and user engagement, and the skepticism surrounding the 'everything app' concept Musk envisions.00:00 Introduction01:02 Part One01:02 Deep Dive with Kurt Wagner: The Story of Twitter02:36 The Origins and Evolution of Twitter06:20 Twitter's User Base and Business Model Explored09:10 The Challenges of Twitter's Business Model14:10 Board Dynamics and Google's Influence on Twitter18:03 Extravagant Spending and Corporate Culture at Twitter21:13 Reflections on Twitter's Stock Performance23:47 The Almost Disney-Twitter Deal: A Glimpse into Corporate Negotiations24:29 Twitter's Quest for a Savior and Its Struggle for Independence25:53 Missed Opportunities: The Story of Vine and Periscope27:27 Part Two27:27 Transition to Part Two: The Elon Musk Era at Twitter27:49 The Challenges of Rebranding Twitter to X and Musk's Controversial Leadership28:32 The Impact of Elon Musk's Actions on Twitter's Ad Revenue and Brand Safety36:52 The Struggle with Bots and Spam: Has It Gotten Worse?40:06 Free Speech Under Musk: A Double-Edged Sword44:26 The Everything App Ambition: A Skeptical View46:33 Closing Thoughts and Acknowledgements47:01 Credits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 29, 2024 • 58min
Thames Water Gets Whacked with guest Feargal Sharkey
Today, we welcome back Feargal Sharkey, who visited Bubble Trouble last summer and dropped a (water) bomb on our privatized utilities. He’s fought the noble fight to expose Thames Water as profiteering polluters. Nine months later we have a massive credit bubble bursting, dumping toxic sewage in both debt laden shell companies and the real shit floating in our rivers and seas, while private equity owners took out £78bn of dividends since privatization kicked in. A warning: this conversation should make everyone angry, whether you draw a drink, go for a wild swim, or just watch your rising water bill - asking how this utility privatization bubble caused so much trouble.For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com(Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.)This episode of Bubble Trouble features hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page, with return guest Fergal Sharkey, discussing the failing state of privatized water companies in England. Highlighted are the issues of excessive dividends extracted by private equity owners, the massive debt incurred by water companies, regulatory failures, and the environmental costs of pollution. Sharkie shares his firsthand experiences with water pollution and regulatory battles. The episode delves into the implications of privatization on public resources, the potential for nationalization, and the urgent need for systemic reform in water management amidst mounting public outrage and the looming crisis of water scarcity in London. The conversation encapsulates the complexities of privatization, the financial engineering driving the water industry's woes, and the palpable need for political and regulatory intervention.00:00 Introduction00:55 Introducing Repeat Guest Fergal Sharkey: A Deep Dive into Water Industry Woes00:59 Part One01:28 Fergal Sharkey's Journey: From Fly Fishing to Fighting Water Privatization03:27 The Alarming State of England's Privatized Water Industry06:47 Investigative Journalism and the Mainstream Media's Role07:44 Exploring the Nationalization Debate and Its Complexities11:06 Regulatory Failures and the Environmental Catastrophe14:27 The Financial Quagmire: Debt, Dividends, and the Dire State of Infrastructure22:00 Addressing the Bondholders: A Call for Accountability27:12 Part Two27:12 Looking Ahead: Solutions and the Future of Water Privatization31:49 The Inefficiency of Global Success32:11 System-Level Solutions for Water Management33:14 The Looming Water Crisis in London34:01 Government's Role in Managing the Water Industry34:42 The Financial Challenge of Securing London's Water Supply35:27 Reforming the Water Industry: A Shift in Earnings and Management35:59 Empathy for the Regulator and the Need for Investment41:10 Nationalizing the Water Companies: A Strategic Move47:04 Political Pressure and Regulatory Challenges49:42 Privatization's Failures and Future Directions55:20 Concluding Thoughts and the Public's Role57:34 Credits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.