

The Tea Leaves Podcast
The Asia Group
The Asia Group's Rexon Ryu and Tiffany Ma break down the Indo-Pacific through revealing interviews with policymakers, business leaders, journalists, and artists from the world's most dynamic and consequential region. Previous guests include Dr. Anthony Fauci, former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, Congressman Ami Bera (D-CA), and Washington Post Asia editor Ana Fifield.
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Nov 18, 2019 • 34min
Amy Searight
Amy Searight, Senior Advisor and Director of the Southeast Asia Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), joins Kurt and Rich on this latest episode of Tea Leaves. Amy shares her observations about the geopolitical and macroeconomic dynamics that are animating the Southeast Asia region today. The three also discuss Southeast Asia’s evolving perceptions of Trump’s leadership, the future of ASEAN, and U.S. messaging to its strategic partners in the Pacific Islands region. Amy also shares her experiences serving as a woman in the national security field.

Nov 4, 2019 • 33min
John Chambers (Re-Post)
Originally aired on September 3, 2018.As chairman and CEO of Cisco, John Chambers guided the company to $47 billion in revenue and developed a reputation as one of the tech industry’s most successful and impressive leaders. In this episode, Rich joins Chambers in the heart of Silicon Valley to discuss Chambers’ upbringing in West Virginia and how he worked his way to become a tech titan. The two tackle questions related to how technology can transform communities and ways that countries can capitalize on the newest tech trends. Chambers also emphasizes the growing importance of the Indo-Pacific and how India, in particular, has prepared itself to benefit from emerging technology.

Oct 21, 2019 • 35min
John Gans
In this Tea Leaves episode, Kurt and Rich sit down with John Gans, Director of Communications and Research for Perry World House and former chief speechwriter to Secretary of Defense Ash Carter at the Pentagon. Kurt and Rich chat with John about his new book, “White House Warriors: How the National Security Council Transformed the American Way of War” and dive into the inner workings of the National Security Council (NSC).

Oct 7, 2019 • 28min
Kurt Tong
In this Tea Leaves episode, Kurt and Rich speak with the Asia Group Partner and U.S. Ambassador (ret.) Kurt Tong about his recent post as U.S. Consul General for Hong Kong and Macau. Kurt shares his thoughts on some of the forces behind the Hong Kong protests and helps untangle the city’s complex political and cultural dynamics.

Sep 25, 2019 • 34min
Michael Fullilove
In this episode of Tea Leaves, Kurt and Rich sit down with Dr. Michael Fullilove, Executive Director of the Lowy Institute, Australia’s leading think tank based in Sydney. Michael, a renowned expert on Australian foreign policy, discusses Australia’s complicated relationship with China, Australian domestic politics, and how Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison can establish a solid relationship with U.S. President Donald Trump while advancing Australia’s foreign policy interests.

Sep 9, 2019 • 26min
Inside the Amelia Earhart Story
In this episode of Tea Leaves, Kurt and Rich discuss the great unsolved mystery of the Pacific – the disappearance of famed explorer and aviator Amelia Earhart. Kurt also shares his involvement in the search for Amelia Earhart’s Lockheed Electra plane as well as the mission that is currently underway on Nikumaroro Island.

Aug 26, 2019 • 38min
Julianne Smith
In this episode of Tea Leaves, Kurt and Rich are joined by Julianne (“Julie”) Smith, an expert on transatlantic issues and adjunct senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security (CNAS). The three discuss Julie’s experiences in the national security field as a woman, the complexities of Europe’s multifaceted relationship with Beijing, and the European perspective towards the Trump administration.

Aug 11, 2019 • 25min
Jake Sullivan Pt. 2
In this episode of Tea Leaves, Kurt and Rich continue the discussion with Jake Sullivan about U.S.-China strategic competition and where it’s headed, Jake’s travels with Secretary Clinton, his take on the 2016 campaign, and the Democratic Party moving forward.

Jul 28, 2019 • 28min
Jake Sullivan Pt. 1
In this first portion of a two-part Tea Leaves conversation, Kurt and Rich sit down with Jake Sullivan, former National Security Advisory to Vice President Joe Biden and former Policy Planning Director at the State Department. The three discuss Jake’s views on what a modern Democratic foreign policy strategy looks like, his involvement in the Iran nuclear deal, and his career beginnings.

Jul 1, 2019 • 34min
Kelly Magsamen
In this episode of Tea Leaves, Kurt and Rich sit down with Kelly Magsamen, the Vice President for National Security and International Policy at the Center for American Progress. The three discuss Kelly’s early interest in national security, her experience in the Pentagon and the National Security Council, and her work at the Center for American Progress.