
The Bitcoin Frontier
Explore how bitcoin as a monetary tool is transforming lives and perspectives. Through Joe Burnett’s conversations, uncover stories of innovation, disruption, and growth as we chart the ever-evolving bitcoin frontier. Whether you're a bitcoin veteran or just curious, The Bitcoin Frontier is your guide to the future of money.
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Mar 5, 2024 • 50min
Growing 7-figure SMBs using bitcoin with Bobby Shell
Entrepreneur Bobby Shell discusses leveraging bitcoin for SMB growth, wealth transfers, acquiring businesses with bitcoin, SBA loans, entrepreneurship, AI in SMBs, local entrepreneurial opportunities, decentralized marketplaces, and empowering SMBs in e-commerce.

Feb 27, 2024 • 58min
Breaking bitcoin models to the upside with Lyn Alden
Lyn Alden discusses thresholds for bitcoin legitimacy, ETFs' impact on bull run, self-custody vs ETFs, bitcoin price models, halving's impact, and potential failure scenarios. They explore ETFs' role in capturing bitcoin, academic recognition, and future cycle tops. Also, they touch on bitcoin startups, cryptocurrency gambling, and financial planning for bitcoin holders.

Feb 20, 2024 • 52min
Powering through halvings and short sellers with Hut 8
In this episode, Joe Burnett sits down with Asher Genoot, CEO of Hut 8, and Sue Ennis, Head of Investor Relations at Hut 8. They discuss the groundbreaking merger between Hut 8 and US Bitcoin Corp, marking the largest bitcoin mining merger in history. The conversation also covers the impact of ETF approval on Hut, the strategic shift towards diversifying beyond bitcoin mining, and the anticipation surrounding the upcoming bitcoin halving. Additionally, they tackle the implications of J Capital's short report, the future of mining site sizes as the block subsidy decreases, and the potential role of miners in the energy sector.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Intro00:01:03 Background—getting into bitcoin mining00:06:12 Hut 8 <> US Bitcoin Merger00:11:00 How has the ETF approval changed Hut?00:12:56 Why diversify out of bitcoin mining?00:17:12 Halving in ~2 months, excited or concerned00:20:19 Monitor mining competitors00:26:12 Will there be another boom bust cycle?00:33:37 J Capital’s short report00:39:30 Block subsidy trending to 0—future size of mining sites?00:47:53 Will miners become a substantial part of energy grids?00:49:46 What excites you over the next 2-3 years?WHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Sue Ennis’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/bigsuey→ Asher Genoot’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/ashergenoot→ Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital

Feb 13, 2024 • 58min
The bitcoin ETF boom with James Seyffart
In this episode, James discusses why he started analyzing bitcoin ETF approvals and net-flows. He explains why bitcoin ETFs were denied for so long, how they got approved in 2024, and how individuals should consider holding real bitcoin vs holding an ETF. We cover the SEC X account hack and other surprises since the ETFs began trading. We even contrast the gold ETFs with the bitcoin ETFs, and discuss what may be the end game of GBTC.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Intro00:01:20 Bloomberg and bitcoin00:05:31 Did you think a bitcoin ETF would be approved before 2024?00:07:47 Why was it denied for so long?00:10:33 Will bitcoin play a role in the 2024 election?00:11:43 Hold your own keys or the ETF?00:19:15 Will ETFs mute bitcoin’s volatility?00:21:58 How do you value bitcoin?00:26:58 SEC Twitter account hack00:30:16 Surprises since ETF approvals?00:33:31 End game of GBTC?00:37:15 Can ETFs increase their fees?00:40:34 Gold ETF vs bitcoin ETFs00:46:47 Can the gold market be manipulated via ETFs or futures?00:49:44 What do most not understand about the bitcoin ETFs?00:55:16 Closing thoughtsWHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → James Seyffart’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/JSeyff→ Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital

Feb 6, 2024 • 49min
Bitcoin will crash energy prices with Andrew Myers
In this episode, Andrew Myers shares his vision of bitcoin revolutionizing global power markets by making them more permissionless and efficient. He explains why entrepreneurship could become easier under a bitcoin standard, evaluates the sustainability of mega mining farms (100+ MW), and looks into the future of global energy production in relation to bitcoin miners.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Intro00:01:40 Permissionless Power Markets00:06:19 Entrepreneurship under a bitcoin standard00:08:25 Bitcoin adoption in the energy sector00:13:57 Credit worthiness of bitcoin miners00:16:30 Are mega mining farms (100MW+) sustainable?00:18:17 Will bitcoin lead to the development of new energy technologies?00:20:07 Will the world continue to produce exponentially more energy?00:22:27 Bitcoin mining and geopolitics00:24:22 Will countries that embrace bitcoin have a massive advantage?00:26:55 How will bitcoin change power prices?00:30:54 “Who will build the roads (transmission lines)?”00:41:04 Will bitcoin create sovereign self-sufficient communities?00:42:19 Block subsidy trending toward 000:46:01 Merging of the mining and energy industries?00:47:47 Closing thoughtsWHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Andrew Myer’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/acmyers→ Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital

Jan 30, 2024 • 1h 2min
AI rumbles while infrastructure crumbles with Drew D'Agostino
In this episode, Drew D’Agostino talks about how the banking system collapses of last year inspired him to bring his 30 employee SaaS company onto a bitcoin standard by adding bitcoin into its treasury and using bitcoin as a tool to make better decisions. Drew’s SaaS company is in the AI industry, so he also touches on the current state of the AI hype cycle and his outlook on the true speed of technology innovation and growth.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Intro00:01:57 Who are you?00:03:25 How did you get into bitcoin?00:08:57 Putting bitcoin on your SaaS company’s balance sheet00:15:29 Board and Employee’s reaction to bitcoin on balance sheet00:20:33 Is bitcoin changing company culture?00:26:46 Bitcoin raises the bar for any investment00:29:00 What happens as the world adopts bitcoin?00:31:47 Bitcoin as a long term or short term benchmark00:37:18 Has bitcoin influenced your products or services?00:39:49 What do you think about the current state of AI?00:45:28 AI deflationary or inflationary?00:48:49 AI cycles vs bitcoin cycles00:56:08 AGI and the singularity?00:58:50 Bitcoin may bring innovation back to the physical worldWHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Drew D’Agostino’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrewDAgostino→ Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital

Jan 23, 2024 • 1h 16min
A $1,000,000 bitcoin won't cause chaos with Peter Dunworth and Luke Broyles
In this episode, Peter and Luke explain why they think $1,000,000 bitcoin is both early and optimistic for the world. They review humanity’s technological progress and discuss why bitcoin is a paradigm shift when it comes to our ability to save and store wealth into the future. Last, they touch on the ETF approval and how it compares to self-custodied bitcoin.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Intro00:01:35 What are the implications of humanity discovering bitcoin?00:08:06 How do you value bitcoin?00:17:48 Comprehending rapid technological innovation00:25:00 Perfect scarcity clashing with real world abundance00:29:22 ETF is approved, now what?00:38:53 93% of all bitcoin has already been mined00:44:03 Will bitcoin cycles continue?00:47:12 ETF vs Self-custody00:59:17 Saving bitcoin for centuries: Inheritance and Trusts 01:08:12 Accelerating adoption and closing thoughtsWHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Peter Dunworth’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/PeterBTCAdviser→ Talk to Luke to set-up a multisig vault: https://calendly.com/luke-btc-advisor/the-bitcoin-adviser-initial-consultation?month=2024-01→ Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital

Jan 16, 2024 • 1h 12min
Demanding payment in bitcoin with Will Cole
In this episode, Will talks about potential major catalysts for bitcoin payments, why businesses will ultimately demand payment in bitcoin, society’s trend towards more and more financial censorship, building bitcoin products, and sci-fi books.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Intro00:01:00 What are you working on now?00:05:25 Is the timing right for Zaprite (bitcoin payments)?00:08:16 Next catalyst for bitcoin payments?00:12:29 Will Saylor accept bitcoin at Microstrategy?00:14:10 Dentists accepting bitcoin00:17:10 Would accepting bitcoin payments become a viral feedback loop?00:20:05 Discounts for paying in bitcoin?00:23:48 3% credit card fees are restaurants and small businesses00:28:07 Is bitcoin our best tool to stop financial censorship? 00:34:44 Online or brick and mortar more likely to accept bitcoin first?00:36:58 What will happen to credit card companies?00:42:39 How is building on bitcoin different from building other software?00:59:21 Low time preference to building bitcoin products?01:07:00 What’s required to build good bitcoin products?01:08:54 What’s your favorite sci-fi book and why?01:10:49 Does bitcoin feel like we’re living in a sci-fi book?WHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Will Cole’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/willcole→ Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital

Jan 9, 2024 • 57min
Bitcoin derangement and accelerating productivity with Jimmy Song
In this episode, Jimmy Song dives into bitcoin derangement syndrome, his expectations for the speed of bitcoin adoption, how much more productive the world would be under a bitcoin standard, his experience visiting Argentina and more.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Intro00:01:19 Bitcoin derangement syndrome00:09:54 Has bitcoin adoption happened faster or slower than you expected?00:16:09 Did you expect extreme cycle volatility?00:19:38 Do people still think you’re crazy in regards to bitcoin? 00:23:21 How would corporate culture change under a bitcoin standard?00:28:50 How much more productive would the world be without rent seekers?00:41:37 Of the books you’ve written, which is your favorite?00:44:04 What was your experience in Argentina? Javier Melei?00:54:00 What will be the next surprise in global bitcoin adoption?WHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Jimmy Song’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimmysong→ Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital

Jan 2, 2024 • 1h 15min
Bitcoin is not a hedge, it’s the solution with Parker Lewis
In this episode, Parker Lewis dives into why his bitcoin is not a hedge presentation was so successful, how he wrote Gradually, Then Suddenly, and the odds of bitcoin and the Dollar coexisting. He addresses common misconceptions, reflects on the evolution of his own writings about bitcoin, and explores why there’s nothing more American than bitcoin and nothing more un-American than the Dollar.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Intro00:01:51 “Bitcoin is not a hedge” presentation hits 250,000+ views00:05:46 Presentation criticism - what is “printing” money?00:08:44 Macro investors and bitcoin00:10:31 What’s the best way to explain bitcoin?00:19:17 Will bitcoin leave people behind?00:21:07 Why write a book?00:26:15 We’re probably not wrong about bitcoin.00:31:08 Which essay did you need to update most?00:34:08 Ordering your essays in the book00:37:55 Objections to bitcoin are answered in Gradually Then Suddenly00:39:30 Still reading Federal Reserve transcripts?00:45:04 Do most people know the Dollar is designed to debase forever?00:47:15 Unexpected symptoms of broken money?00:50:44 Banning bitcoin00:59:06 Will bitcoin and the dollar co-exist?01:01:30 There’s nothing more American than bitcoin01:07:34 What’s exciting about bitcoin payments?01:13:04 Closing thoughtsWHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Parker Lewis’ Twitter: https://twitter.com/parkeralewis→ Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital
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