In this episode, Caitlin Long analyzes bitcoin businesses under the Biden Administration. She begins with her reasons for building Custodia and the importance of opening banking to all industries. Caitlin critiques the SEC's recent court losses and explores Custodia's efforts to obtain a master account at the Federal Reserve, contrasting Custodia's approach with the Federal Reserve's stance. The discussion moves to Operation Choke Point 2.0, the future of banking, and whether de-banking is a subtle attempt to ban bitcoin and crypto. Caitlin shares her thoughts on the surprise of ETF approvals and the more unknown risks of centralized exchanges. She speculates on the products banks might offer once they enter the bitcoin space and the impact of rehypothecation on bitcoin's price. SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Intro00:01:26 Why did Caitlin build Custodia?00:02:43 Opening banking to all industries00:04:26 SEC continues losing court cases00:05:46 Master account at the Federal Reserve00:11:49 Custodia vs Federal Reserve00:16:13 Operation Choke Point 2.000:21:05 Future of banking?00:22:50 Is de-banking a roundabout way to ban bitcoin and crypto?00:30:38 How surprising were the ETF approvals?00:35:54 Unknown risk of centralized exchanges00:38:50 When banks come what products will they offer?00:43:08 Does rehypothecation affect the price of bitcoin?00:46:37 Banking industry endgame–fractional reserve vs full reserve?00:52:35 Are you surprised Tether never died?00:57:00 What is the biggest risk to bitcoin?01:00:12 Closing thoughtsWHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital→ Caitlin Long’s Twitter: https://x.com/CaitlinLong_ 

In this episode, Brian Brookshire provides a comprehensive analysis of MicroStrategy’s bitcoin acquisition strategy. He begins with his background in fintech product marketing, including experiences at Stanford and in Asia. Brian explores MicroStrategy's use of convertible debt to accumulate more bitcoin per share, evaluating the marginal returns and looking back at the NAV discount in 2022. He discusses the risks of MicroStrategy as a bitcoin yield vehicle, potential new products, and future acquisitions. The conversation compares spot bitcoin to spot MSTR and considers whether other companies will soon follow MicroStrategy's lead. Last, Brian dives into his perspective on the stock-to-flow and power law models.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Intro00:01:11 Brian’s background—Stanford, Asia, and fintech product marketing00:02:49 MSTR’s bitcoin convertible debt strategy00:12:08 Accumulating more bitcoin per share00:15:26 Marginal returns on increasing bitcoin per share?00:18:27 MSTR’s NAV blowing out?00:19:41 MSTR’s NAV discount in 202200:21:50 MSTR as bitcoin yield?00:22:48 MSTR new products and potential future acquisitions00:24:12 Spot bitcoin vs spot MSTR00:25:49 Will other companies finally follow MSTR?00:30:08 S2F, power law, and the models00:32:00 What’s the biggest risk to bitcoin?00:34:44 What’s something you believe about bitcoin that many bitcoiners would disagree with?00:35:26 Closing thoughtsWHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital→ Brian Brookshire’s Twitter: https://x.com/btc_overflow

In this episode, Nik Bhatia provides a comprehensive analysis of current market conditions, starting with an overview of the macroeconomic landscape and its implications for various assets, including bitcoin. He explores bitcoin's potential performance under different macro scenarios and examines whether broken monetary systems actually hinder bitcoin adoption. The discussion extends to global liquidity trends and their impact on bitcoin, insights into the efficiency of markets, log bitcoin charts, and academic perspectives. Bhatia also identifies potential catalysts for the next wave of bitcoin adoption and debates whether paper bitcoin is suppressing its price.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Intro00:01:57 Macro—where do you see markets right now?00:06:47 How will bitcoin perform in various macro conditions?00:10:56 Does broken money actually slow bitcoin adoption?00:15:12 Global liquidity and bitcoin00:26:10 Efficient markets, log bitcoin chart, and academics00:30:54 Catalyst for next adoption wave00:35:17 Is paper bitcoin suppressing the price?00:45:10 Does bitcoin weaken or strengthen the Dollar over the next decade?00:49:00 What’s it like teaching young people about bitcoin?00:49:51 What’s something you believe that most bitcoiners would disagree with?00:50:09 What’s the biggest risk to bitcoin?00:50:35 Closing thoughtsWHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital→ Nik Bhatia’s Twitter: https://x.com/timevalueofbtc 

In this episode, Andrew Bailey, author of Resistance Money, explores the philosophical foundations of bitcoin and its role as resistance money. He discusses the need for resistance in today's socio-economic landscape, who benefits from it, and why he wrote another bitcoin book. Andrew argues for bitcoin's adoption based on more widely held beliefs and examines its value in a censorship-free world. He addresses the role of privacy, bitcoin's future, and the importance of self-custody versus centralized custody. The conversation also covers the ossify versus non-ossify debate, personal reputational risks, its political impact, and its biggest risks.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Introduction00:01:24 What is Resistance Money?00:02:17 Andrew’s philosophy background00:04:46 What do people need to resist?00:07:52 Who needs resistance money?00:10:58 Why write another bitcoin book?00:12:38 Arguing for bitcoin from more widely held beliefs00:14:37 Is bitcoin valuable if there is no censorship?00:15:47 How does philosophy help us understand bitcoin?00:19:49 Bitcoin as an alien technology drop00:21:36 What’s the role of privacy and money?00:23:32 Can there be too much privacy?00:27:05 Bitcoin is a new tool in today’s reality00:28:00 Where is bitcoin in a decade?00:31:59 How can we accelerate self-custody adoption?00:33:55 What’s the concern with centralized custody?00:37:35 Ossify vs not ossify fork00:42:56 Risking your reputation talking positively about bitcoin?00:46:23 When will bitcoin become not fringe?00:48:53 How might bitcoin transform politics?00:52:46 Biggest risk to bitcoin?00:55:27 What’s something you believe about bitcoin that many bitcoiners would disagree with?00:56:45 Closing thoughtsWHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital→ Andrew Bailey’s Twitter: https://x.com/resistancemoney→ Andrew’s book: https://www.resistance.money

In this episode, former 12x USA national mountain bike champion and Olympian Jeremy HK Nova shares his journey from the trails to bitcoin. He reflects on life lessons, proud achievements, and the evolution of mountain biking globally and in the US. Jeremy discusses his transition from professional racing, discovering bitcoin, and his interest in macroeconomics. He explains why he sold his rental properties for bitcoin and why extreme sports athletes should start embracing bitcoin. The conversation explores exercise science misconceptions, Jeremy's bitcoin pitch to mountain bikers, and bitcoin's impact in El Salvador. Jeremy also talks about his work at Studio Shed, demonetizing real estate, and his unique views on bitcoin. SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Introduction00:01:20 Jeremy’s journey into professional mountain biking00:04:20 Mountain biking and life00:05:35 Most proud mountain biking achievement?00:07:10 Various mountain biking disciplines00:08:19 Living in the olympic athlete village00:09:22 How big of a sport is mountain biking?00:10:29 Evolution of professional mountain biking00:12:55 How big is professional mountain biking in the US?00:13:23 Post-professional mountain biking00:16:12 Jeremy discovering bitcoin00:20:06 Why interested in macro, finance, and economics?00:21:45 Selling rental properties for bitcoin00:24:06 Extreme sport athletes earning bitcoin00:26:00 Bitcoin and extreme sports counter culture00:28:36 Exercise science and bitcoin–what else are experts wrong about?00:30:09 Are athletes more likely to have a healthy skepticism?00:30:50 Jeremy’s bitcoin pitch to other mountain bikers00:34:42 Bitcoin in El Salvador00:37:51 Spouses and bitcoin00:41:36 Do other pro athletes earning bitcoin really understand bitcoin?00:42:27 Other pro mountain bikers deep into bitcoin?00:42:50 How else can bitcoin help pro athletes?00:45:35 Jeremy’s day job at Studio Shed00:47:05 Demonetizing real estate00:50:27 What’s the biggest risk to bitcoin?00:52:23 What’s something you believe about bitcoin that many bitcoiners would disagree with?00:54:09 Closing thoughtsWHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital→ Jeremy HK Nova’s Twitter: https://x.com/JeremyHK

In this episode, Ray Kamrath, Chief Commercial Officer of Bakkt, shares his journey from Wall Street to embracing bitcoin. Starting with a light-hearted recount of riding scooters and breaking his arm in Austin, Ray narrates his first encounter with bitcoin and the concept of sound money. He contrasts gold and bitcoin, explains his decision to join Bakkt, and he explores the potential for an institutional driven bull market. Ray offers insights into political interactions with bitcoin, valuation methods, and a potential monetary reset. The discussion also covers collaborative custody, differentiating bitcoin from other cryptocurrencies, and Bakkt's future trajectory.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Introduction00:01:20 Who is Ray Kamrath?00:02:38 Riding scooters and breaking arms in Austin00:03:36 Ray first hearing about bitcoin00:07:50 Talking about sound money on Wall Street00:10:37 Gold vs bitcoin00:11:36 Why join Bakkt?00:16:15 An institutional-driven bull market00:22:20 Government and bitcoin00:24:39 How do you value bitcoin?00:27:20 Monetary reset–what does it look like?00:31:30 Which countries will influence the market most?00:38:30 Collaborative custody and a network of keys00:42:18 Bitcoin vs crypto00:45:47 Where is Bakkt in 5 years?00:47:10 Where is bitcoin in 5 years?00:48:54 Passive flows, MSTR, and bitcoin00:50:41 What’s something you believe that most bitcoiners would disagree with?00:51:47 What’s the biggest risk to bitcoin?00:53:59 Closing thoughtsWHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital→ Ray Kamrath’s Twitter: https://x.com/Ray_Kamrath→ Bakkt’s Twitter: https://x.com/Bakkt

In this episode, David Marcus, CEO and co-founder of Lightspark, discusses his journey from Facebook to bitcoin and the challenges of integrating Lightning at Coinbase. He explores the pace of bitcoin adoption, differentiates between custodial and non-custodial Lightning services, and addresses the market for goods transactable only over the Lightning network. The conversation also touches on the impact of AI on financial services, the future of Visa and Mastercard with bitcoin, and issues with taxes on smaller bitcoin payments.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Introduction00:01:35 Founded and exited multiple companies—why so much success?00:02:50 Leaving Facebook to start Lightspark?00:07:03 Telecom and paypal to bitcoin?00:08:19 David’s first touchpoint with bitcoin00:12:26 Adoption occurring faster or slower than you expected?00:15:20 Implementing Lightning at Coinbase00:17:50 What took Coinbase so long to implement Lightning?00:20:30 Transaction fees on L1 and L200:23:05 Is Lightning broken?00:25:55 Custodial Lightning vs non-custodial Lightning00:33:40 Spending bitcoin vs Lightning as payment technology only00:35:19 Concerns with stablecoins on Lightning?00:36:50 Tether’s rapid growth00:38:24 Goods and services only sold over the Lightning network?00:40:17 Future of AI and AI agents00:42:45 Wealth created from AI?00:45:07 Lightspark, Visa, and Mastercard00:47:09 Barriers to break into in person retail payments00:49:50 Will Visa and Mastercard be forced to adopt bitcoin and Lightning?00:50:40 Will taxes always be a hurdle for bitcoin payments?00:51:25 Will the Visa and bank “3% payment fee” eventually go away?00:52:39 What’s something you believe that most bitcoiners would disagree with?00:54:44 What’s the biggest risk to bitcoin and Lightning?00:56:46 Closing thoughtsWHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital→ David Marcus’s Twitter: https://x.com/davidmarcus→ Lightspark's Twitter: https://x.com/lightspark

In this episode, Alex Thorn, Head of Research at Galaxy, explores the implications of states attacking bitcoin and discusses how the U.S. can support bitcoin. He analyzes potential catalysts for the U.S. government buying bitcoin and questions if Nvidia and mega-cap tech are in a bubble. The conversation covers bitcoin’s stability and volatility, the prospect of MicroStrategy in the S&P 500, and when more companies might adopt similar strategies. He also addresses another wave of CPI inflation, Balaji’s $1,000,000 bitcoin prediction, the beliefs of MMTers, and what drives bitcoin cycles. The episode concludes with discussions on bitcoin scaling, contrarian beliefs, risks to bitcoin, and Alex's Unchained and Bitcoin Commons rap.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Introduction00:01:52 “Attacking bitcoin will harm america more than bitcoin.”00:04:35 How can America support bitcoin?00:08:15 Catalyst for U.S. government buying bitcoin00:10:08 Is Nvidia and mega cap tech a bubble?00:13:52 Bitcoin’s stability and volatility00:15:42 Microstrategy in S&P 500?00:18:01 When will more companies copy Microstrategy?00:19:37 Different corporate bitcoin strategies00:20:50 When may bitcoin become less volatile?00:26:50 Why do academics and economists still disregard bitcoin?00:28:35 Will bitcoin be obvious in hindsight?00:30:20 Is another wave of CPI inflation coming?00:32:15 Are assets going up regardless of decreasing or increasing rates?00:34:47 Balaji’s $1,000,000 bitcoin prediction in 90 days00:37:26 MMTers—do they believe what they say?00:39:50 What drives bitcoin cycles? Halving, macro or something else?00:42:37 Bitcoin was not just a ZIRP phenomenon00:45:06 S2F and power law models00:47:38 Research at Galaxy00:51:48 Will bitcoin scale on Lightning or a different L2?00:56:20 What’s something you believe that most bitcoiners would disagree with?00:57:58 What’s the biggest risk to bitcoin?01:02:42 Alex’s Unchained, Bitcoin Commons, and Joe rap01:04:03 Closing thoughtsWHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital→ Alex Thorn’s Twitter: https://x.com/intangiblecoins

In this episode, John Ratcliff, a bitcoin blockchain analytics pioneer and early bitcoin adopter since 2013, explores the extremity of bitcoin scarcity. John shares his extensive background as a game developer and how he initially began to understand bitcoin. He discusses the similarities between early game development and bitcoin's block size limit, as well as the interesting connection between bitcoin and freemasonry. The conversation also covers topics like Modern Monetary Theory (MMT), UFOs, and the mindset needed to analyze the bitcoin blockchain. Listeners will learn John’s perspective on bitcoin price models, the true scarcity of bitcoin, and practical advice for young people incorporating bitcoin into their lives.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Introduction00:01:35 John’s background as a game developer and 2013 bitcoiner00:02:57 Did being a video game developer help you understand bitcoin?00:07:38 John’s catalyst to understanding bitcoin00:11:42 Money or markets within video games00:13:05 Resource constraints in bitcoin and early game development00:19:39 Bitcoin video games00:20:17 You’re a freemason–what is a freemason?00:23:29 Bitcoin and freemasons00:27:19 Do MMTers actually believe what they say?00:29:26 UFOs, aliens, and open mindedness00:34:30 Analyzing the bitcoin blockchain00:51:00 How scarce is bitcoin01:05:18 Bitcoin price models—S2F and power law01:06:16 Advice for young people making bitcoin a part of their life01:14:20 Something you believe that most holders of bitcoin would disagree?WHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital→ John Ratcliff’s Twitter: https://x.com/jratcliff

In this episode, Christopher David, a self-taught software engineer with two decades of experience, dives into the future of AI and bitcoin. Christopher offers his expert analysis on OpenAI's GPT-4o model release, the evolving dynamics between humans and AI, and the pivotal question of whether AI will replace or create millions of jobs. He also examines the future landscape of closed-source versus open-source models, the innovative ways software engineers are leveraging LLMs, and the potential arrival of AGI.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show out with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Introduction00:01:35 Christopher’s software and bitcoin background00:02:47 Thoughts on Open AI GPT-4o?00:07:00 Is technology actually accelerating?00:13:08 Will we use AI as a personal assistant or as autonomous agents?00:19:18 What is AGI? When will we see AGI?00:24:30 How will humans continue to interact with AI models?00:28:14 Will AI replace or create jobs?00:31:20 AI models and software engineering00:36:14 Will open source models keep pace with closed source models?00:38:13 One big AGI model or many niche models?00:41:22 How does bitcoin fit into the future of AI?00:43:05 What is OpenAgents?00:45:53 What is an AI agent?00:49:22 Does AI destroy moats around SaaS companies?00:51:23 Are we approaching a technological singularity?00:52:53 Is AI a centralizing or decentralizing technology?00:53:58 Closing thoughtsWHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained Twitter: https://twitter.com/unchainedcom→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital→ Christopher David’s Twitter: https://x.com/AtlantisPleb