
The Bitcoin Frontier
Explore how bitcoin as a monetary tool is transforming lives and perspectives. Through Joe Burnett’s conversations, uncover stories of innovation, disruption, and growth as we chart the ever-evolving bitcoin frontier. Whether you're a bitcoin veteran or just curious, The Bitcoin Frontier is your guide to the future of money.
Latest episodes

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Jun 25, 2025 • 51min
Bitcoin is pristine collateral—with Jon Melton
Jon Melton, Head of Lending at Unchained and a Wall Street veteran, dives into the game-changing role of bitcoin in the credit market. He shares insights on why bitcoin is considered pristine collateral and discusses the benefits of borrowing against it while maintaining control. Jon outlines how recent regulatory changes are paving the way for institutional confidence in bitcoin, as well as the transformative potential of collaborative custody in lending practices. Plus, he highlights the importance of adapting to evolving interest rates in this space.

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Jun 18, 2025 • 57min
MBA grads still don’t get bitcoin, here’s why with Anil Patel
Anil Patel, author of The Bitcoin Handbook and creator of popular Bitcoin graphics, discusses his early insights on digital scarcity sparked by selling concert tickets. He shares his belief in Bitcoin's future as a vital store of value and treasury asset. Anil reflects on the skepticism faced from MBA grads, the role of Bitcoin in financial security, and the rise of Bitcoin treasury companies. He emphasizes simplifying complex Bitcoin concepts for better understanding and the necessity of adapting financial education in an increasingly distracting world.

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Jun 11, 2025 • 1h 4min
DOGE couldn’t fix the dollar with Sam Callahan
Sam Callahan, a strategist at Unchained, dives into the seismic shift in the global economy driven by lightning adoption and corporate strategies utilizing Bitcoin. He discusses how Bitcoin treasury companies might redefine corporate finance and the implications for traditional markets. Sam highlights the transformative potential of the Lightning Network for generating yield and its role as a safe haven in turbulent times. He also analyzes the impact of stablecoin adoption, regulatory arbitrage, and institutional interest in Bitcoin as a sound money alternative.

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Jun 4, 2025 • 1h 2min
Is bitcoin’s wealth creation era over or just beginning? with Trace Mayer
Trace Mayer, an early bitcoin investor and founder of the Proof of Keys holiday, dives deep into the future of bitcoin and its volatility. He reflects on his debate with Peter Schiff, highlighting the advantages of bitcoin over gold through subjective value theory. The discussion touches on bitcoin's financialization and the risks of custodial centralization. Mayer emphasizes the importance of proof of reserves for transparency. He also explores the implications of declining volatility and evolving legal frameworks in the bitcoin landscape.

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May 27, 2025 • 1h 5min
Hal Finney was right about $10mm bitcoin with Adam Back
Adam Back, CEO of Blockstream and early cypherpunk, discusses Bitcoin’s undervaluation and its journey towards potentially hitting $10 million. He shares anecdotes, including receiving the first known email from Satoshi Nakamoto. The conversation touches on the significance of a fixed supply, the effects of market halvings, and the psychological barriers affecting investor confidence. Adam also highlights Bitcoin's evolution amid economic crises and its transformative potential for individuals without traditional financial access.

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May 20, 2025 • 58min
What if $100,000 bitcoin is just the beginning? with Vijay Boyapati
Joining the discussion is Vijay Boyapati, an economist and Bitcoin advocate, and author of The Bullish Case for Bitcoin. He shares his insights on Bitcoin's valuation, predicting gold parity is on the horizon. Vijay examines HODL waves, why the current price feels dull, and what could drive Bitcoin’s value to astonishing heights. He also warns about emerging risks like quantum computing and AI, underscores the importance of maintaining sound money, and reflects on Satoshi's legacy as a potentially defining story for future generations.

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May 13, 2025 • 54min
Can bitcoin spark a nuclear renaissance?
Ryan, known as the Nuclear Bitcoiner, dives into the revolutionary potential of combining bitcoin with nuclear energy. He discusses how bitcoin mining can utilize stranded nuclear power, boosting energy resilience through small modular reactors. The conversation highlights the advantages of nuclear over renewables like wind and solar, explores innovative financing methods like BitBonds, and delves into the race between nation-states for mining dominance. Ryan offers a forward-thinking perspective on how these technologies could reshape the energy landscape and our economic future.

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May 6, 2025 • 1h 11min
From fighter jets to $2.4mm bitcoin with George Bodine
George Bodine, a former underground miner, Navy fighter pilot, and Delta captain, passionately dives into his transformative journey towards Bitcoin. He views Bitcoin as a safeguard against inflation and the faltering American dream, predicting its potential rise to $2.4 million by 2030. The conversation tackles critical topics like the risks of yield products, the significance of Bitcoin in wealth preservation, and its future in national finance. Bodine also reflects on whether Bitcoin attracts optimists or pessimists, leaving listeners with a compelling message for the next generation.

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Apr 29, 2025 • 1h 3min
Bitcoin at an Inflection Point: Macro, 4-year Cycle & On-Chain Insights with Rational Root
What if bitcoin really is decoupling from the stock market? In this episode, we’re joined by Rational Root, creator of the Bitcoin Strategy Platform and one of the top on-chain cycle analysts in the space. We explore whether macro chaos and rising gold prices are setting the stage for bitcoin to chart its own path. Root breaks down how the 4-year cycle could break, what historical data says about the current inflection point, and why he believes institutional flows are quietly limiting downside volatility. He also shares his custom spiral and 3D valuation charts, how to track hype in the market, and why 100k bitcoin might be harder to break than most think.SUPPORT THE PODCAST:→ Subscribe→ Leave a review→ Share the show with your friends and family→ Send us an email podcast@unchained.com→ Learn more about Unchained: https://unchained.com/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=TBF-podcast-description→ Book a free call with a bitcoin expert: https://unchained.com/consultation?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=TBF-podcast-description→ Buy bitcoin in an IRA—sign up today and get your first year free: unchained.com/frontier→ Watch the video premiere of Bitcoin, Not Crypto: https://unchained.com/frontierTIMESTAMPS:0:00 - Intro1:06 - Why bitcoin’s fundamentals have never looked better4:20 - Could macro chaos trigger bitcoin’s decoupling?10:06 - Bitcoin trades on optimism, gold trades on fear17:09 - Is gold’s rise setting up bitcoin’s breakout?22:01 - Will the next recession break the 4-year cycle?30:23 - Why 100k bitcoin may face resistance36:09 - The 3D chart that could predict the cycle top44:10 - Bitcoin’s floor price keeps rising50:23 - Will bitcoin crack 100k or break down?WHERE TO FOLLOW US:→ Unchained X: https://twitter.com/unchained→ Unchained Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unchainedcom → Unchained Newsletter: https://unchained.com/newsletter → Joe Burnett’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/IIICapital→ Jose Burgos (Director of Media Production) on Twitter: https://x.com/DeFBeD→ Rational Root’s Twitter: https://x.com/therationalroot

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Apr 23, 2025 • 58min
The new Manhattan Projects: 50x cheaper energy, the race to space, and bitcoin
Isaiah Taylor, founder of Valor Atomics, aims to revolutionize energy with modular giga-sites for cleaner and cheaper production. He shares insights from his family's ties to the Manhattan Project and discusses why innovative nuclear solutions stalled in the West. The conversation dives into the potential of robotics and AI in energy, the need for regulatory reforms, and how decentralization can boost national resilience. Taylor also explores Bitcoin's role in a changing economy and advocates for real-world engineering over software-centric approaches.