

New Thinking Allowed Audio Podcast
New Thinking Allowed Audio Podcast
Audio Versions of the Monologues and Interviews from the New Thinking Allowed YouTube Channel (www.newthinkingallowed.com)
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Aug 12, 2025 • 2h 8min
Tom Campbell Answers Even More of Your Toughest Questions
Tom Campbell Answers Even More of Your Toughest Questions
Tom Campbell, a physicist, is author of the three volume set, My Big TOE, describing a meta-theory that offers an account of the paranormal, as well as other scientific mysteries. He is also the founder of the Center for Unification of Science and Consciousness. His websites are https://www.my-big-toe.com/ and https://cusac.org
Here he answers the last questions remaining from the Live Stream Event held on June 26, 2025.
00:02:42 What are DMT entities?
00:22:20 How to distinguish between ourselves and others?
00:41:38 Can the Larger Consciousness System change the rule set?
00:58:03 When will humans become integrated with machines?
01:11:45 Are there non-conscious humans like Non Player Characters?
01:18:47 How can I overcome the feeling that I am lying to myself?
01:32:07 Have you proven that physical reality is a simulation?
01:40:07 What about people born into unimaginable horrific situations?
01:46:42 How can I best address my obsessive compulsive disorder?
01:55:57 Conclusion
New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death. He is Co-Director of Parapsychology Education at the California Institute for Human Science.
(Recorded on July 13, 2025)
For a short video on How to Get the Most From New Thinking Allowed, go to https://youtu.be/aVbfPFGxv9o
For a complete, updated list with links to all of our videos, see https://newthinkingallowed.com/Listings.htm.
Check out the New Thinking Allowed Foundation website at http://www.newthinkingallowed.org. There you will find our incredible, searchable database as well as opportunities to shop and to support our video productions – plus, this is where people can subscribe to our FREE, weekly Newsletter and can download a FREE .pdf copy of our quarterly magazine.
To order high-quality, printed copies of our quarterly magazine: NTA-Magazine.MagCloud.com
Check out New Thinking Allowed’s AI chatbot. You can create a free account at ai.servicespace.org. When you enter the space, you will see that our chatbot is one of several you can interact with. While it is still a work in progress, it has been trained on 1,600 NTA transcripts. It can provide intelligent answers about the contents of our interviews. It’s almost like having a conversation with Jeffrey Mishlove.
If you would like to join our team of volunteers, helping to promote the New Thinking Allowed YouTube channel on social media, editing and translating videos, creating short video trailers based on our interviews, helping to upgrade our website, or contributing in other ways (we may not even have thought of), please send an email to friends@newthinkingallowed.com.
To join the NTA Psi Experience Community on Facebook, see https://www.facebook.com/groups/1953031791426543/
To download and listen to audio versions of the New Thinking Allowed videos, please visit our new podcast at https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/new-thinking-allowed-audio-podcast/id1435178031.
Download and read Jeffrey Mishlove’s Grand Prize essay in the Bigelow Institute competition, Beyond the Brain: The Survival of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death, go to https://www.bigelowinstitute.org/docs/1st.pdf.
You can help support our video productions while enjoying a good book. To order a copy of New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: Is There Life After Death? click on https://amzn.to/3LzLA7Y (As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases.)
To order the second book in the New Thinking Allowed Dialogues series, Russell Targ: Ninety Years of ESP, Remote Viewing, and Timeless Awareness, go to https://amzn.to/4aw2iyr
To order a copy of New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: UFOs and UAP – Are We Really Alone?, go to https://amzn.to/3Y0VOVh
To order My Big TOE by Tom Campbell, go to https://amzn.to/3Y9diya
To order Tom’s Park by Tom Campbell, go to https://amzn.to/3ZmgBCz

Aug 4, 2025 • 2h 22min
Tom Campbell Answers More of Your Toughest Questions
Tom Campbell Answers More of Your Toughest Questions
Tom Campbell, a physicist, is author of the three volume set, My Big TOE, describing a meta-theory that offers an account of the paranormal, as well as other scientific mysteries. He is also the founder of the Center for Unification of Science and Consciousness. His websites are https://www.my-big-toe.com/ and https://cusac.org
Here he answers questions remaining from the Live Stream Event held on June 26, 2025.
00:00:00 Introduction
00:03:41 How to stop fear?
00:19:03 Does mass consensus shape reality?
00:28:58 Ethics around money?
00:54:56 Is information conscious?
01:09:44 How does one “log on” to an avatar?
01:19:43 Do the past and the future exist in the present?
01:29:51 What to do when AI takes jobs away?
01:39:32 Are we trapped inside our minds?
02:02:25 Final thoughts and conclusion
New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death. He is Co-Director of Parapsychology Education at the California Institute for Human Science.
(Recorded on July 4, 2025)
For a short video on How to Get the Most From New Thinking Allowed, go to https://youtu.be/aVbfPFGxv9o
For a complete, updated list with links to all of our videos, see https://newthinkingallowed.com/Listings.htm.
Check out the New Thinking Allowed Foundation website at http://www.newthinkingallowed.org. There you will find our incredible, searchable database as well as opportunities to shop and to support our video productions – plus, this is where people can subscribe to our FREE, weekly Newsletter and can download a FREE .pdf copy of our quarterly magazine.
Check out New Thinking Allowed’s AI chatbot. You can create a free account at https://ai.servicespace.org When you enter the space, you will see that our chatbot is one of several you can interact with. While it is still a work in progress, it has been trained on 1,600 NTA transcripts. It can provide intelligent answers about the contents of our interviews. It’s almost like having a conversation with Jeffrey Mishlove.
To order high-quality, printed copies of our quarterly magazine, visit https://NTA-Magazine.MagCloud.com
If you would like to join our team of volunteers, helping to promote the New Thinking Allowed YouTube channel on social media, editing and translating videos, creating short video trailers based on our interviews, helping to upgrade our website, or contributing in other ways (we may not even have thought of), please send an email to friends@newthinkingallowed.com.
To join the NTA Psi Experience Community on Facebook, see https://www.facebook.com/groups/1953031791426543/
To download and listen to audio versions of the New Thinking Allowed videos, please visit our new podcast at https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/new-thinking-allowed-audio-podcast/id1435178031.
You can help support our video productions while enjoying a good book. To order a copy of New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: Is There Life After Death? click on https://amzn.to/3LzLA7Y (As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases.)
To order New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: Russell Targ – Ninety Years of ESP, Remote Viewing, and Timeless Awareness, go to https://amzn.to/4aw2iyr
To order New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: UFOs and UAP – Are We Really Alone?, go to https://amzn.to/3Y0VOVh
Download and read Jeffrey Mishlove’s Grand Prize essay in the Bigelow Institute competition, Beyond the Brain: The Survival of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death, go to https://www.bigelowinstitute.org/docs/1st.pdf.
To order My Big TOE by Tom Campbell, go to https://amzn.to/3Y9diya
To order Tom’s Park by Tom Campbell, go to https://amzn.to/3ZmgBCz

Aug 3, 2025 • 1h 2min
Abraham Maslow and the Science of Self-Actualization with Scott Barry Kaufman
Abraham Maslow and the Science of Self-Actualization with Scott Barry Kaufman
Scott Barry Kaufman is a professor of psychology at Columbia University and director of the Center for Human Potential. He hosts The Psychology Podcast which has received over 30 million downloads. He is the author and editor of 11 books. His most recent book is Rise Above: Overcome a Victim Mindset, Empower Yourself, and Realize Your Full Potential. This discussion focuses on his book Transcend: The New Science of Self-Actualization, about the life and work of Abraham Maslow, whose theories of human potential have been updated and revised by Dr. Kaufman. His website is https://scottbarrykaufman.com/bio/
Here he shares his appreciation for the work of Abraham Maslow and the various movements in psychology of which he was an acknowledged pioneer: humanistic, transpersonal, and positive psychology. The conversation also addresses the role of the dark side of human behavior.
New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death. He is Co-Director of Parapsychology Education at the California Institute for Human Science.
(Recorded on July 3, 2025)
For a short video on How to Get the Most From New Thinking Allowed, go to https://youtu.be/aVbfPFGxv9o
For a complete, updated list with links to all of our videos, see https://newthinkingallowed.com/Listings.htm.
Check out the New Thinking Allowed Foundation website at http://www.newthinkingallowed.org. There you will find our incredible, searchable database as well as opportunities to shop and to support our video productions – plus, this is where people can subscribe to our FREE, weekly Newsletter and can download a FREE .pdf copy of our quarterly magazine.
Check out New Thinking Allowed’s AI chatbot. You can create a free account at https://ai.servicespace.org When you enter the space, you will see that our chatbot is one of several you can interact with. While it is still a work in progress, it has been trained on 1,600 NTA transcripts. It can provide intelligent answers about the contents of our interviews. It’s almost like having a conversation with Jeffrey Mishlove.
To order high-quality, printed copies of our quarterly magazine, visit https://NTA-Magazine.MagCloud.com
If you would like to join our team of volunteers, helping to promote the New Thinking Allowed YouTube channel on social media, editing and translating videos, creating short video trailers based on our interviews, helping to upgrade our website, or contributing in other ways (we may not even have thought of), please send an email to friends@newthinkingallowed.com.
To join the NTA Psi Experience Community on Facebook, see https://www.facebook.com/groups/1953031791426543/
To download and listen to audio versions of the New Thinking Allowed videos, please visit our new podcast at https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/new-thinking-allowed-audio-podcast/id1435178031.
You can help support our video productions while enjoying a good book. To order a copy of New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: Is There Life After Death? click on https://amzn.to/3LzLA7Y (As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases.)
To order New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: Russell Targ – Ninety Years of ESP, Remote Viewing, and Timeless Awareness, go to https://amzn.to/4aw2iyr
To order New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: UFOs and UAP – Are We Really Alone?, go to https://amzn.to/3Y0VOVh
Download and read Jeffrey Mishlove’s Grand Prize essay in the Bigelow Institute competition, Beyond the Brain: The Survival of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death, go to https://www.bigelowinstitute.org/docs/1st.pdf.
To order Transcend: The New Science of Self-Actualization by Scott Barry Kaufman, go to https://amzn.to/44SjrlU
To order Rise Above by Scott Barry Kaufman, go to https://amzn.to/46vg4CM

Jul 31, 2025 • 1h 19min
Improving Mental Health with Chinese Medicine with Nina Cheng
Nina Cheng, founder of The Eastern Philosophy and expert in Traditional Chinese Medicine, discusses the holistic foundations of TCM and its relevance to mental health. She highlights how concepts like qi and the five element theory inform practices such as music therapy and qigong. Nina also uncovers TCM's ability to address various mental health issues, advocating for contentment over the fleeting pursuit of happiness. Listeners gain insights into the mind-body connection and the effectiveness of integrating traditional methods with modern psychological approaches.

Jul 30, 2025 • 57min
InPresence 0262: Normalizing the Paranormal
Here Jeffrey Mishlove engages in a dialogue with himself about the paradigm shift that would be required for the paranormal to become normalized. He compares this to the paradigm change that occurred from the belief that witches must be put to death to the belief that there is no such thing as a real witch. He also shares information about the empirical data of parapsychology, practical applications of psychic ability, and the theoretical underpinnings of psi (the term parapsychologists use for ESP and psychokinesis).
00:00 Introduction
03:32 The biblical roots of the problem
06:52 Witch hunts
11:22 What is a paradigm shift?
14:34 The Helen Duncan trial
20:39 The empirical evidence
33:18 Practical applications
40:29 Theoretical explanations
50:43 Summary and conclusion
(Recorded on June 19, 2025)
New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death. He currently serves as Co-Director of Parapsychology Education at the California Institute for Human Science.
For a short video on How to Get the Most From New Thinking Allowed, go to • InPresence 0253: How to Get the Most From …
For a complete, updated list with links to all of our videos, see https://newthinkingallowed.com/Listin….
Check out the New Thinking Allowed Foundation website at http://www.newthinkingallowed.org. There you will find our incredible, searchable database as well as opportunities to shop and to support our video productions – plus, this is where people can subscribe to our FREE, weekly Newsletter and can download a FREE .pdf copy of our quarterly magazine.
To order high-quality, printed copies of our quarterly magazine: NTA-Magazine.MagCloud.com
If you would like to join our team of volunteers, helping to promote the New Thinking Allowed YouTube channel on social media, editing and translating videos, creating short video trailers based on our interviews, helping to upgrade our website, or contributing in other ways (we may not even have thought of), please send an email to friends@newthinkingallowed.com.
To join the NTA Psi Experience Community on Facebook, see / https://www.facebook.com/groups/1953031791426543/
To download and listen to audio versions of the New Thinking Allowed videos, please visit our new podcast at https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n….
You can help support our video productions while enjoying a good book. To order a copy of New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: Is There Life After Death? click on https://amzn.to/3LzLA7Y (As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases.)
To order the second book in the New Thinking Allowed Dialogues series, Russell Targ: Ninety Years of ESP, Remote Viewing, and Timeless Awareness, go to https://amzn.to/4aw2iyr
To order a copy of New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: UFOs and UAP – Are We Really Alone?, go to https://amzn.to/3Y0VOVh
Download and read Jeffrey Mishlove’s Grand Prize essay in the Bigelow Institute competition, Beyond the Brain: The Survival of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death, go to https://www.bigelowinstitute.org/docs…

Jul 29, 2025 • 57min
Analyzing Human Stupidity with Gabriel Kennedy
Gabriel Kennedy, author and visual artist, dives into the perplexing nature of human stupidity, drawing heavily on the thoughts of Robert Anton Wilson. He reveals that intelligence doesn't shield individuals from foolish choices, spotlighting historical blunders like the Vietnam War. Kennedy discusses the risks of stupid actions from those in power and the detrimental effects of authoritarianism. He emphasizes the importance of clear communication and critical thinking, urging listeners to reflect on their own vulnerabilities and the broader societal impacts of stupidity.

Jul 28, 2025 • 60min
Josephin Péladan and the French Occult Revival with Sasha Chaitow
Josephin Péladan and the French Occult Revival with Sasha Chaitow
Sasha Chaitow, PhD, is a British-Greek cultural historian, author, artist, and lecturer whose work explores the rich intersections of esotericism, philosophy, and the arts. An internationally exhibited artist, she is the author of several books including her translation of The Hieroglyphica of Horapollon Niloos, and Atalanta Unveiled: Alchemical Initiation in the Emblems of the Atalanta Fugiens. This conversation will focus on her book Son of Prometheus: The Life and Work of Joséphin Péladan.
Here she focuses on the Occult Revival of the late nineteenth century in Paris, France. The period brings to mind such names as Eliphas Levi, Papus (Gérard Encausse), and Stanislas de Guaita. The Rosicrucian novelist Josephin Péladan also played a major role in this movement that has been largely forgotten. Sasha Chaitow has made a point of reviving memory of his particular genius.
New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death. He currently serves as Co-Director of Parapsychology Education at the California Institute for Human Science.
(Recorded on June 12, 2025)
For a short video on How to Get the Most From New Thinking Allowed, go to https://youtu.be/aVbfPFGxv9o
For a complete, updated list with links to all of our videos, see https://newthinkingallowed.com/Listings.htm.
Check out the New Thinking Allowed Foundation website at http://www.newthinkingallowed.org. There you will find our incredible, searchable database as well as opportunities to shop and to support our video productions – plus, this is where people can subscribe to our FREE, weekly Newsletter and can download a FREE .pdf copy of our quarterly magazine.
To order high-quality, printed copies of our quarterly magazine: NTA-Magazine.MagCloud.com
If you would like to join our team of volunteers, helping to promote the New Thinking Allowed YouTube channel on social media, editing and translating videos, creating short video trailers based on our interviews, helping to upgrade our website, or contributing in other ways (we may not even have thought of), please send an email to friends@newthinkingallowed.com.
To join the NTA Psi Experience Community on Facebook, see https://www.facebook.com/groups/1953031791426543/
To download and listen to audio versions of the New Thinking Allowed videos, please visit our new podcast at https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/new-thinking-allowed-audio-podcast/id1435178031.
You can help support our video productions while enjoying a good book. To order a copy of New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: Is There Life After Death? click on https://amzn.to/3LzLA7Y (As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases.)
To order the second book in the New Thinking Allowed Dialogues series, Russell Targ: Ninety Years of ESP, Remote Viewing, and Timeless Awareness, go to https://amzn.to/4aw2iyr
To order a copy of New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: UFOs and UAP – Are We Really Alone?, go to https://amzn.to/3Y0VOVh
Download and read Jeffrey Mishlove’s Grand Prize essay in the Bigelow Institute competition, Beyond the Brain: The Survival of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death, go to https://www.bigelowinstitute.org/docs/1st.pdf.

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Jul 27, 2025 • 1h 11min
Is the World Real? with Swami Medhananda
Swami Medhananda, a monk and philosopher with a rich background in Vedanta, delves into profound questions about reality and spirituality. He contrasts Advaita and Vijnana Vedanta, emphasizing how these philosophies guide us through suffering and identity. The discussion nods to the Bhagavad Gita's relevance, advocating for practices like Jnana Yoga and Bhakti Yoga in everyday life. Medhananda invites listeners on a journey to embody pure consciousness, blending devotion with nonduality for spiritual growth and transformation.

Jul 26, 2025 • 54min
The Naming Problem in Remote Viewing with Dan Graboi
Dan Graboi, a researcher at the California Institute for Human Science with a PhD in human experimental psychology, dives into the intricacies of remote viewing and the challenges of psi perception. He sheds light on the 'naming problem,' where labeling impressions can hinder accurate identification of targets. Graboi shares fascinating examples from his experiments and discusses the neurological barriers of interpreting fragmented mental images. The conversation also touches on the significance of clear definitions in psychic research and the relationship between memory and psychic experiences.

Jul 25, 2025 • 48min
Understanding Tarot with Mary K. Greer
Understanding Tarot with Mary K. Greer
Mary K. Greer has been studying and teaching tarot for the last half century. She is author of eleven books on tarot and on magic. They include Tarot for Your Self: A Workbook for Personal Transformation; Women of the Golden Dawn: Rebels and Priestesses; The Essence of Magic: Tarot, Ritual, and Aromatherapy; and Mary K. Greer’s 21 Ways to Read a Tarot card. She has taught tarot for 11 years at the New College of California. She has a master’s degree in English literature from the University of Central Florida, where she first taught tarot in 1974.
Here she describes the history of tarot cards and the various ways they can be used both for personal growth and to help others. In particular, she focuses on the esoteric tarot system used by the Order of the Golden Dawn. Many examples are illustrated from her personal experience.
New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death. He is Co-Director of Parapsychology Education at the California Institute for Human Science.
(Recorded on June 3, 2025)
For a short video on How to Get the Most From New Thinking Allowed, go to https://youtu.be/aVbfPFGxv9o
For a complete, updated list with links to all of our videos, see https://newthinkingallowed.com/Listings.htm.
Check out the New Thinking Allowed Foundation website at http://www.newthinkingallowed.org. There you will find our incredible, searchable database as well as opportunities to shop and to support our video productions – plus, this is where people can subscribe to our FREE, weekly Newsletter and can download a FREE .pdf copy of our quarterly magazine.
Check out New Thinking Allowed’s AI chatbot. You can create a free account at https://ai.servicespace.org When you enter the space, you will see that our chatbot is one of several you can interact with. While it is still a work in progress, it has been trained on 1,600 NTA transcripts. It can provide intelligent answers about the contents of our interviews. It’s almost like having a conversation with Jeffrey Mishlove.
To order high-quality, printed copies of our quarterly magazine, visit https://NTA-Magazine.MagCloud.com
If you would like to join our team of volunteers, helping to promote the New Thinking Allowed YouTube channel on social media, editing and translating videos, creating short video trailers based on our interviews, helping to upgrade our website, or contributing in other ways (we may not even have thought of), please send an email to friends@newthinkingallowed.com.
To join the NTA Psi Experience Community on Facebook, see https://www.facebook.com/groups/1953031791426543/
To download and listen to audio versions of the New Thinking Allowed videos, please visit our new podcast at https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/new-thinking-allowed-audio-podcast/id1435178031.
You can help support our video productions while enjoying a good book. To order a copy of New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: Is There Life After Death? click on https://amzn.to/3LzLA7Y (As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases.)
To order New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: Russell Targ – Ninety Years of ESP, Remote Viewing, and Timeless Awareness, go to https://amzn.to/4aw2iyr
To order New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: UFOs and UAP – Are We Really Alone?, go to https://amzn.to/3Y0VOVh
Download and read Jeffrey Mishlove’s Grand Prize essay in the Bigelow Institute competition, Beyond the Brain: The Survival of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death, go to https://www.bigelowinstitute.org/docs/1st.pdf.
To order Women of the Golden Dawn by Mary K. Greer, go to https://amzn.to/4ebX26s
To order Tarot for Your Self by Mary K. Greer, go to https://amzn.to/4jQ1uZC
To order Mary K. Greer’s 21 Ways to Read a Tarot Card, go to https://amzn.to/3SW2gcz