

The Spiritual Forum
The Spiritual Forum
Welcome to The Spiritual Forum, a space curated by Rev Carol Saunders for extraordinary conversations that explore the realms of spiritual living. Join us weekly for heart-to-heart dialogues with captivating individuals, delving into themes like love, faith, awakening, forgiveness, healing, spiritual practices, and divine encounters. These transformative narratives aim to inspire, fostering a deep connection to the profound experiences that shape our lives. Rev Carol’s guests include authors, filmmakers, experts, and everyday individuals who authentically share their journeys toward wholeness. These discussions transcend the ordinary, offering insights into navigating the complexities of our current world with authenticity and grace.
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Jun 5, 2023 • 1h 11min
Episode 212 - The Akashic Records Speak
Amy Robeson is a Master Akashic Records Teacher, Light Language Master, and Mentor who helps people tap into their most powerful inner potential to experience profound transformation. She is passionate about exploring spiritual concepts and truths and encourages her students to get curious and stay curious. As the founder of Sacred Awakening, she has created a powerful Akashic Records program, allowing her students to receive answers in any area of their life so they can live an empowered, aligned life. In this episode, about two thirds of the way through, Amy does an Akashic Records reading for Rev. Carol and the podcast audience. What she says in these readings are for you if it resonates with you. Here are some things we discuss:
•Following your energy/heart
•Living in curiosity
•What the Akashic records are and how can they be used
•Who the guardians are and how they help us
•Thinking versus intuition
•How to cultivate a relationship with our natural intuition
•Free will and infinite possibilities
•Rev. Carol’s reading at 39:30
•Podcast/listeners' reading at 61:00
https://theamyrobeson.com/
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May 29, 2023 • 55min
Episode 211 - Exhale: Hope, Healing and Life in Transplant
“My religion was ambition and achievement. It took a long time for me to realize I wasn’t the one saving their lives. I was a small part of that. I was the hand of a greater being.” – Dr. David Weill
For 20 years, Dr. David Weill kept with him a list of names of people who were in dire need of lung transplants. As the Director of the Center for Advanced Lung Disease and Lung and Heart-Lung Transplant Program at Stanford University Medical Center, he led a team of 55-60 people and was in charge of the care plan for transplant patients, assessing their psychological chances for survival and matching them with organs as they became available. Life and death seemed to be in his hands and losing a patient seemed to him like a personal failure. In this episode Dr. Weill tells the story of how he rode the emotional rollercoaster and evolved from arrogance to authenticity as he loosened his hold on control and awakened to the presence of higher power working through him. When he left the front lines of the hospital, he started Weill Consulting Group, which focuses on improving the delivery of pulmonary, ICU, and transplant care. His riveting memoir, Exhale: Hope, Healing, and a Life in Transplant, rawly and authentically depicts his fascinating life journey. Here are some of the things we talked about:
•The job of a transplant director
•Learning from transplant patients
•The ego’s addiction to control (i.e. ‘control enthusiasts)
•Insights gained from reading the Bible cover to cover
•The humanity of doctors and the loss of the soul in medicine
•The prevalence of post-covid confusion
•The need for systemic change (government, healthcare, etc.) to come from the grassroots level
•Writing as a way to process life
•Telling the truth and not pretending
•The importance of connection
© the spiritual forum 2023

May 22, 2023 • 1h
Episode 210 - Natural Law, Conscious Community and Permaculture
Paul and Lauren Bell are devoted to right-livelihood, conscious parenting and intentionally building community grounded in the fundamental knowledge of Natural Law. Paul is a chef, culinary expert and yoga teacher. Lauren is nature philosopher and certified teacher of permaculture design. Together they founded Truth Love and Freedom (a platform for activism, teaching Natural Law, morality, and voluntaryism) and Blue Hill Farm Organics, both of which operate from their certified organic permaculture farm in Southern California. Paul and Lauren are deeply tuned into themselves, consciously live their values and take action in the world. Here is some of what we cover in this inspiring and educational conversation:
•What is Natural Law?
•Living with cognitive dissonance
•Perceptions versus Truth
•Morality is objective
•Force versus violence
•Ideas for creating self-expressive community
•Our body is a temple
•What is permaculture?
•Why organic is so important
•The myths of homeschooling
•The need to take action!
https://truthloveandfreedom.com/
https://bluehillfarmorganics.com/permaculture-design
http://www.ahimsabowls.com/
© the spiritual forum 2023

May 15, 2023 • 57min
Episode 209 - Fearless Living with Guy Finley
Born into a successful show business family (son of late-night TV and radio pioneer Larry Finley), Guy Finley had a successful early career that included composing award-winning music for popular recording artists such as Diana Ross, The Jackson 5, Billy Preston and the Four Seasons. He also scored several motion pictures and TV shows and wrote and recorded his own albums under the Motown and RCA labels. At the young age of 27, he realized that "there wasn’t a soul on the planet who could do for me what I needed to do for myself,” so he hung it all up and pursued the inner spiritual journey. Guy is now the Founder and Director of Life of Learning Foundation, a nonprofit center for spiritual discovery and acclaimed author of over 45 books, including The Secret of Letting Go and The Essential Laws of Fearless Living. In this episode we have a deep conversation about a number of spiritual topics including:
•The root of fear
•Our self-perpetuated prison
•Unconscious identifications
•The problem with trying to avoid being reactive
•Resistance as a form of negative attraction
•How affirmations can give voice to what we are not
•The path to fearlessness
•Moving mountains
•How we are meant to help the world
Website: https://www.guyfinley.org/
Outreach Program: https://onejourney.net/
Free weekly classes: https://register.gotowebinar.com/register/9067053776971860749?source=interview
Events: https://www.guyfinley.org/events.html
Guy Finley books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001ITW1CM/allbooks

May 8, 2023 • 50min
Episode 208 - The Beingness of Water
Dr. Yael Green is a coach and energetic guide, who embodies a sense of self and core resonance with neutrality. She refers to herself as a hybrid human, with a memory of being dropped off on this planet. In Episode 207 we discussed portals (shifts in beingness), the hero’s journey and our eternal dance between containment and possibility. ln this episode we continue our conversation and explore the idea of water as our teacher. Our bodies are comprised of ~70% water. We depend on it for our survival and we find ourselves drawn to bodies of water. Water is in the origination stories of all religions. All religions have a water ritual. Water is used in spiritual healing modalities. Is water a being that teaches us? What is it telling us? Open your mind to a deeper way of looking at water as we explore:
•The nature of water as yielding and maintaining structure
•How to create moments with water
•The amazing properties of water
•How we are designed to hydrate our bodies
•What our attempts to poison waters says about us
•The compassionate nature of water
•What water teaches us about ourselves
•Creating our own water meditation
Book on water rituals: https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/edit/10.4324/9781003010142/sacred-waters-celeste-ray
Link to Gerald Pollock – Science of Water https://www.pollacklab.org/
Yael's website: https://watermatrix.org/
© the spiritual forum 2023

May 1, 2023 • 1h 4min
Episode 207 - Portals, Neutrality & Freedom with Yael Green
“Freedom is the actual awareness of your choice to have an experience and not judge it as good or bad.” – Yael Green
Yael Green is a hybrid human, an embodied portal, water technologist and intuitive guide with a specific mission to help humanity during this time of transition and upgrade. She remembers being severed from source when she was 'dropped off on this planet' and she is immune to karmic cycles. Yael embodies an extensive knowledge of sacred geometry, balance and harmony and she spends most of her time in possibility. With a Bachelors and Masters in Business and non-profit Management and a Clinical Doctorate in Physical Therapy, she spent the last 25 years in the fields of organizational and systems management, physical therapy, somatics, sound healing and education. In this episode we have a lively dialogue on a number of topics including:
•What is an energy portal?
•The Hero’s Journey
•Rites of passage, shamanic journeying, plant medicine and meditation as portals
•Redefining aliens and UFOs
•The eternal dance between containment and possibility
•Neutrality and the exploration of possibility without story
•The choices we all make to interact with life
•Why karmic cycles happen
•What is freedom?
website: https://watermatrix.org/
© the spiritual forum 2023

Apr 24, 2023 • 58min
Episode 206 - Being at Peace with What Is
“I have never met anyone who is as much at peace as you are.” Lois Bouchard’s cardiologist
Lois Bouchard was diagnosed with Scleroderma, an extremely rare and fatal autoimmune disease that few doctors are able to treat. On top of that, in 2020 she suffered a stroke, and in 2022 she was diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease. In the face of all this, she lives today with no fear, worry or anxiety. Her current state of peace came about from the three years she spent sitting with Spirit and listening. She documented the messages she received during her journey of meditation and prayer in her book, Dear Lord, I Am Listening. Her hope is that the message in her book will provide people of all walks of life, convictions and generations with inspiration, faith, hope, and love. In this episode, you will find that Lois is the living embodiment of faith, hope and love, and her story is an inspiration for those who have ‘ears to hear.’
Her message includes:
•We are never alone
•We are protected
•We each have a destiny
•The key to hearing the voice of Spirit is quieting the mind
•Faith, hope and love guide us through all adversity
•Look for the light when you are in darkness – lift your heart to God/Source/Spirit
Book: https://www.amazon.com/Dear-Lord-Am-Listening-Messages/dp/B0BLG5T3GK
©️ the spiritual forum 2023

Apr 17, 2023 • 58min
Episode 205 - Transformation of a Rancher’s Wife
A former quintessential city girl, Renee King-Sonnen married into the ranching business deep in the heart of Texas. Unexpectedly, she experienced a profound change of heart and fell in love with the farm animals, which changed the course of her life forever. In this episode Renee tells her story of transformation from rancher’s wife to Founder and Executive Director of Rowdy Girl Sanctuary to her work with the Rancher Advocacy Program, which transitions cattle ranchers and animal farmers out of animal agribusiness. She continually brings her message of love and compassion to the hearts of sanctuary visitors, local businesses, churches, fellow ranchers and government officials, effecting real change. As a spiritual seeker, Renee has taken the deep dive into many of the world’s faith traditions and finds her greatest strength in the still, small voice inside her that she has come to know through her practice of yoga and meditation in the pasture with her cow family. She is the embodiment of aligned feelings, thoughts and actions as she passionately and unrelentingly answers her calling at all levels in her life.
Renee and her husband Tommy’s story has been seen on CBS, ABC, RFD, and Animal Planet. Their sanctuary lives are featured in the newly released documentary, Rowdy Girl. She will be the keynote speaker at the upcoming Whole Planet Spirituality Retreat that I am hosting at Unity Village this October.
Website: https://rowdygirlsanctuary.org/
Documentary: https://hotdocs.ca/whats-on/hot-docs-festival/films/2023/rowdy-girl
Rancher Advocacy Program: https://rancheradvocacy.org/
Whole Planet Spirituality Retreat: https://thespiritualforum.org/retreat
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Apr 10, 2023 • 52min
Episode 204 - Plant Medicine, Shadow Work and Integration
“There is an infinite path to the light…and everyone has a calling to connect to a higher power.” Derek Januszewski
Derek Januszewski has been on a healing journey. A survivor of abuse and neglect as a child, he has traveled through alcoholism and addiction to the plant medicine Ayahuasca, through relapse and to ultimate healing through intense shadow work. He founded Pachamama Sanctuary in New Hampshire where he currently serves as pastor and organizes weekend retreats for people who are called to sit with Ayahuasca as a healing modality. In this episode Derek shares his journey and stresses the importance of shadow work and integration, no matter what spiritual healing practice you pursue. Some of the things we talk about are:
o Serving others creates a personal purpose
o God gives gifts in unexpected situations
o Plant medicine alone without doing the deeper work may be bypass
o The 12-step program as shadow work
o What is Ayahuasca and the spiritual experience it invokes
o There are no drive-thru solutions – we need to live a different way
o The benefits of an integration coach or integration plan
o Who shouldn’t do Ayahuasca
o The three categories that intentions fall into
o Plant medicine helps strip away the ego – it’s not an intermediary
o The legality of plant medicine
o Stories of people’s experiences at the Pachamama Sanctuary – from the extraordinary miracle to finding authentic purpose ('resurrection' experiences)
o Listen to your intuition about which path to take
https://pachamamasanctuary.org/
©️ the spiritual forum 2023

Apr 3, 2023 • 57min
Episode 203 - Culturally Immersive and Ethical Travel
What if travel was a story, not a trip? Zac Lovas is the co-founder of Vegan Travel Asia by Voyages, a team of 5 friends from 4 different countries and different faiths who came together to create tours that focus on bridging gaps through cultural immersion while enjoying 100% local vegan food along the way. Collaborating with local communities, they develop tours that are environmentally friendly, socially impactful, and cruelty-free. They also invest 50% of their profits into the communities they work with through programs focused on social impact, animal welfare, environmental sustainability, education, and conservation. Their journeys seek to promote a deeper understanding of different cultures, the environment, the planet, and our interlinked coexistence. Zac is a practicing Theravada Buddhist and in this episode he shares about the storytelling nature of cultural immersion travel, how we can find a sense of belonging in the most unlikely places, and his involvement in the newly released award-winning, life-changing documentary, Maa Ka Doodh.
WEBSITE: https://vegantravelasia.com
RESPONSIBLE TRAVEL LINK: https://vegantravelasia.com/responsible-travel/
VEGVOYAGES FOUNDATION: https://vegvoyagesfoundation.org
DOCUMENTARY: https://maakadoodh.in/
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