
More Than A Lawyer with Holly Cope
I'm your host, Holly Cope. I'm an ex-lawyer turned entrepreneur. Join us for some epic conversations with some of the top lawyers in the world. They all have inspirational stories to tell, each with their own valuable lessons. I'll also be talking about how to stand out, build authority and influence as a lawyer. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes

Mar 22, 2025 โข 16min
The Future of Law is This. With Rich Fox
In a world where AI can process data faster and more accurately than any lawyer, the true strength moving forward is in the people behind the law.The future of law is about human connection. AI canโt replicate empathy, trust, or understanding of what makes us human. In this new era, your uniqueness is your competitive advantage.Today we're sitting down with Rich Fox Fractional GC and Senior in house Legal Consultant we talk about where the future of law is heading and how to future-proof yourself. Find Rich here:https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-colin-fox-b8003249/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 16, 2025 โข 32min
Building Northern Europeโs Biggest Legal Tech Conference With Valentin Feklistov and Alex Bitskov
Today I'm talking with the founders of the largest legal innovation conference in Northern Europe, FutureLaw:Valentin Feklistov and Alex Bitskov.This is a place where legal, tech, and business meet on equal ground.Where discussions arenโt just theoretical but global, practical, and forward-thinking.The first FutureLaw conference began in 2023, bringing together leaders from the Nordics, the Baltics, and beyond.By 2024 it had become truly international.Over 40 nations.World-class speakers from Asia to America.And 2025 is set to be better.Because the future of law isnโt built in isolation.Itโs built through collaboration.For legal professionals, this isnโt just another event, itโs an opportunity.To learn from the best minds in legal tech, business, and practice.To see how technology is reshaping law firms, access to justice, and client service.To future-proof your career in a profession thatโs evolving faster than ever.The legal industry is changing. You can watch from the sidelines.Or you can step into the room where the future of law is being shaped.FutureLaw is happening in Tallin, Estonia, 29th - 30th May 2025.Find out more here: https://futurelaw.ee/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 9, 2025 โข 30min
Pressure, Power & Peace: Finding Balance in Law With Grace Williams
Stress in law isnโt just part of the job, itโs built into the culture.Deadlines. Client demands. Billable targets. Itโs easy to believe that stress is something external, something that happens to you. But stress isnโt just about the job. Itโs a biological response.This episode is part of a new mini-series on wellbeing in law, while the demands of the industry arenโt changing overnight lawyers have to rethink how they can navigate them.And no, this isnโt another โjust meditate and take breaksโ kind of conversation. We know stress in law isnโt that simple. The reality is, most advice doesnโt cut it when youโre dealing with constant pressure, high stakes, and a workload that never stops.But there are ways to take back control ways that actually work in the legal world. If youโve ever thought, I know I need to manage stress, but nothing seems to help this is for you.Today I'm sitting down with Grace Williams to get expert advice on how to manage stress in law, she's an ex White and Case solicitor turned health and nutrition coach. Find Grace on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grace-williams-coach/This episode is part of a three-part wellbeing series. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 8, 2025 โข 25min
Breaking the Mold: Women Redefining Success in Law
For a long time, success in law has been narrowly defined, making partner, climbing the corporate ladder, and sacrificing personal life for billable hours.But what happens when women in law decide to rewrite that definition for themselves?In this episode, I am spotlighting the stories of women who walked away from the traditional legal path, not because they couldnโt hack it, but because they chose something different.Something bigger. Something that aligned with their version of success.Helen PamelyLet me introduce you to Helen Pamely, she walked away from prestige, a safe salary, and a partner title at a London firm to one day decide this wasnโt the version of success she wanted anymore, so she quit.Listen to the full story here:https://open.spotify.com/episode/3uere1F95HoxOIYTWTNhZ2?si=8b8954a520724000Natalie ThomasNext we have Natalie Thomas, she went from studying at Oxford University to working in Tesco in South-West Wales to then being part of the founding team, helping launch the London office of top US law firm Perkins Coie.Listen to the full story here:https://open.spotify.com/episode/0jMn0EHD9fZFHZIpvPou8Z Dana ShakerNext, I want to introduce you to Dana Shaker. She went from being a traditional lawyer to a remote digital nomad lawyer working on the road.Listen to the full story here:https://open.spotify.com/episode/6T861HNH9oS4pU6hgUY7rm?si=6a457f0e11204f1aRenee PardoRenee Pardo is a former trial lawyer. She changed her career path after 30 years in law and years before qualifying for her pension. She is now a certified executive life coach who primarily coaches women lawyers.Listen to the full story here:https://open.spotify.com/episode/5iatTpq4ugGkcQkQBjhbpi?si=3ab947230c054379Tara SeosankarTara Seosankar shares her journey of becoming a freelance employment lawyer in Canada and the reasons behind her decision to leave a traditional law firm.Listen to the full story here:https://open.spotify.com/episode/6sv3OQ57H1TiUGYbEaQ6vY?si=c5bf76f5c831482e Hannah StrawbridgeHannah Strawbridge, founder of Han Law started out as a lawyer at a top UK firm and then became a freelancer before building a successful employment law business. After becoming disillusioned by the traditional law firm mentality, and witnessing too many colleagues either leave the profession or โburn outโ, Hannah decided to start her own firm. Listen to the full story here:https://open.spotify.com/episode/5BezlMkOmt2xinNudymyTr Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 2, 2025 โข 46min
Balancing Culture & Profitability in Law with Jonathan Watmough
How do you balance culture with profitability without losing both?Younger lawyers arenโt following the same career paths as before. They want flexibility, purpose, and a future that isnโt just about billable hours. some are more entrepreneurial, others are more willing to walk away, and many are less tied to the outdated idea that partnership is the ultimate goal.And yet, law firms are still clinging to the same structures.In this conversation, we sit down with Jonathan Watmough award-winning former city law firm managing partner and author of 'How To Thrive In A Commercial Law Firm' he now helps law firm partners and partnerships improve performance.We talk about how the legal industry isnโt just changing, itโs being rewritten. The shift from natural to strategic competition and what it means for the industry. How law firms can adapt to retain talent in a competitive market. The legal industry is experiencing a generational shift.Find Jonathan here:https://www.helpinglawyersthrive.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 23, 2025 โข 30min
Gen Z Lawyers: The Wake-Up Call Law Firms Canโt Ignore with Natalie Thomas
Gen Z could transform the future of law.Yet, many law firms struggle to attract and retain this generation of lawyers.The reason? Rigid hierarchies, endless hours, toxicity and outdated processes can push them away. But when motivated the right way, they can bring innovation, efficiency, and fresh perspectives that law firms need.the next generation isnโt the problem. Theyโre the solution.In this conversation, we're sitting down with Natalie Thomas legal business analyst at Perkins Coie. She went from studying at Oxford University to working in Tesco in South-West Wales to then being part of the founding team, helping launch the London office of US law firm Perkins Coie.We talk about how GenZ can help drive law firm growth, challenge traditions and question inefficiency to shape a smarter, more sustainable legal industry.Find Natalie here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-thomas-045656153/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 10, 2025 โข 43min
Beyond Borders: The Hidden Power of Cultural Intelligence with Gary Miller
The secret weapon most lawyers overlook?Itโs not just technical skills. Not just experience.Itโs cultural intelligence.The ability to navigate different perspectives, understand global nuances, and adapt to unfamiliar environments. And in an industry thatโs becoming more international by the day, itโs the difference between stagnation and opportunity.Think about it: The best lawyers arenโt just great at the law.Theyโre great at people.They build relationships across borders, decode unspoken cultural expectations, and know how to turn differences into strengths.In this conversation, we sit down with Gary Miller, partner at Mishcon de Reya, Head of China Desk & Chair of International Fraud Group. Gary is a global asset recovery expert with 47 years of experience in uncovering and securing assets, leading cross-border teams, and driving high-stakes settlements. We talk about the power of cultural intelligence, the value of trusting your instincts, the lessons that come from embracing change, building the right networks, and seeing failure as part of growth. Find Gary here:https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-miller-ba456a82/-------We're Helen & Holly.We do expert marketing for lawyers and law firms. Helen Pamely, a former Magic Circle lawyer and law firm partner, and Holly Cope, the worldโs #1 legal tech and innovation influencer and creator of the More Than a Lawyer podcast.We have grown a combined following of over 50,000. We are experts in building an influence and strong brands on LinkedIn.Hereโs what we offer:Legal Company Page Management & Ghostwriting: Crafting compelling content to elevate your firmโs presence.Personal Brand Ghostwriting for Lawyers: Helping individual lawyers stand out and build authority.LinkedIn Academy for Lawyers: A tailored training program to master LinkedIn and grow your influence.Corporate LinkedIn Training: Empowering teams with the skills to maximise LinkedInโs potential.Podcasting services: Build authority, connection, community through the power of influence Contact us here:https://www.linkedin.com/in/holly-cope-digitalnomad/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/helenpamely/ Introducing: The LinkedIn Starter Pack for LawyersThe ULTIMATE starter pack for LinkedIn for lawyers: 11 interactive tools designed to elevate your personal brand and turn connections into clients.From optimising your profile, to mastering content creation, with 30 scroll-stopping frameworks and magnetic hook formulas. Learn how to network like a pro, position yourself as the go-to expert in your niche, and never run out of content ideas with our ideation guide and strategy worksheet.https://helenpamely.com/the-linkedin-starter-pack-for-lawyers/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 29, 2025 โข 52min
How Lawyers Can Leverage LinkedIn To Gain Market Share & Clients with Jasmine Chaudry
We're running a ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ธ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐๐ป ๐๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐บ๐ ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐๐ฎ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐. Doors CLOSE 31st JANUARY 2025โญ ๐ฏ ๐๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ถ๐ป๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐๐ฒ๐๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป๐: ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ณ๐๐ป๐ฑ๐ฎ๐บ๐ฒ๐ป๐๐ฎ๐น๐ ๐๐ผ ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ธ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐๐ป ๐๐๐ฐ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐๐(profile optimisation, writing killer posts, and landing your ideal clients)โญ ๐๐ถ๐๐ฒ ๐ค&๐ ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐น๐น๐ ๐ผ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ฏ ๐๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ธ๐โญ๐๐ป๐๐ถ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ ๐๐ผ ๐ต๐ฒ๐น๐ฝ ๐ด๐ฟ๐ผ๐ ๐ผ๐ป ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ธ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐๐ปJoin here: https://vist.ly/3mt5vifLawyers: Stop chasing clients โ start attracting themHereโs the truth: convincing a company to drop their long-standing lawyer and switch to you?Itโs an uphill battle.Lawyers often sit in a place of trust built over years, and getting clients to jump ship is no small feat.But hereโs the good news:You donโt need to โpoachโ clients.Instead, focus on making yourself impossible to ignore.You donโt need to compete with other lawyers for clients, you just need to out-position them.Focus on building trust, authority, and relationships. When clients decide to make a change, theyโll already know who theyโre calling: you.Join us in our LinkedIn Live with special guest law firm partner at Waterstone Legal, Jasmine Chaudry. She's built a brand and influence and attracts clients on LinkedIn.Learn how you can do it too.Find Jasmine here:https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasmine-chaudry-88857267/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 26, 2025 โข 40min
The Only Skill That Matters Right Now In Law With Brandon Renken
The only skill that matters now is marketing. But you need to prioritise becoming a good lawyer before you become a good marketer.Success as a lawyer isn't about being the smartest person in the room. You need to think like an entrepreneur and act like a marketer, being great a law is now just a baseline requirement.Most lawyers get years into the profession and realise they have to be a great sales person as well as a great lawyer.In this episode, Brandon Renken, trial partner at Mayer Brown covers why it's so important to be a great marketer in law and HOW you can do it.Find out about Brandon Renken here:https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-renken-91b7937a/-------We're Helen & Holly.We do expert marketing for lawyers and law firms. Helen Pamely, a former Magic Circle lawyer and law firm partner, and Holly Cope, the worldโs #1 legal tech and innovation influencer and creator of the More Than a Lawyer podcast.We have grown a combined following of over 50,000. We are experts in building an influence and strong brands on LinkedIn.Hereโs what we offer:Legal Company Page Management & Ghostwriting: Crafting compelling content to elevate your firmโs presence.Personal Brand Ghostwriting for Lawyers: Helping individual lawyers stand out and build authority.LinkedIn Academy for Lawyers: A tailored training program to master LinkedIn and grow your influence.Corporate LinkedIn Training: Empowering teams with the skills to maximise LinkedInโs potential.Podcasting services: Build authority, connection, community through the power of influence Contact us here:https://www.linkedin.com/in/holly-cope-digitalnomad/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/helenpamely/ Introducing: The LinkedIn Starter Pack for LawyersThe ULTIMATE starter pack for LinkedIn for lawyers: 11 interactive tools designed to elevate your personal brand and turn connections into clients.From optimising your profile, to mastering content creation, with 30 scroll-stopping frameworks and magnetic hook formulas. Learn how to network like a pro, position yourself as the go-to expert in your niche, and never run out of content ideas with our ideation guide and strategy worksheet.https://helenpamely.com/the-linkedin-starter-pack-for-lawyers/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 23, 2025 โข 44min
How Lawyers Can Build Their Profile, Brand & Influence on LinkedIn
We're running a ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ธ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐๐ป ๐๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐บ๐ ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐๐ฎ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐. Doors CLOSE 31st JANUARY 2025โญ ๐ฏ ๐๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ถ๐ป๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐๐ฒ๐๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป๐: ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ณ๐๐ป๐ฑ๐ฎ๐บ๐ฒ๐ป๐๐ฎ๐น๐ ๐๐ผ ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ธ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐๐ป ๐๐๐ฐ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐๐ (profile optimisation, writing killer posts, and landing your ideal clients)โญ ๐๐ถ๐๐ฒ ๐ค&๐ ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐น๐น๐ ๐ผ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ฏ ๐๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ธ๐โญ๐๐ป๐๐ถ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ ๐๐ผ ๐ต๐ฒ๐น๐ฝ ๐ด๐ฟ๐ผ๐ ๐ผ๐ป ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ธ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐๐ปJoin here: https://vist.ly/3mt5vifLinkedIn is the most underrated tool for lawyers.Youโre not taking full advantage.Think about it, in law, we need to:-Build trust among clients & other professionals-Position ourselves as the experts-NetworkItโs much easier when you have a platform that can do this AT SCALE for you.As lawyers, we often hear the same advice: network, build your reputation, and let your expertise speak for itself.But letโs be honest, traditional networking has its limits.And relying solely on word-of-mouth feels outdated in 2025.Enter LinkedIn: the ultimate game-changer.This platform isnโt just about having a professional profile.Itโs a space where you can position yourself as a thought leader,build relationships,and attract opportunities...without leaving your desk.When we started showing up on LinkedIn consistently, everything changed.We stopped chasing clients, they started finding us.We stopped cold-pitching ideas, opportunities began landing in our inbox.Hereโs what makes LinkedIn so powerful:๐ Visibility: Posting insightful content positions you as the go-to lawyer in your niche.๐ Authenticity: Sharing your story builds trust and reliability, key for attracting clients.๐ Engagement: Every comment, message, and connection is a chance to deepen relationships.The best part?You donโt need to be โviral.โYou need to be valuable.In a profession built on trust and relationships.LinkedIn is where you can grow both, at scale.Join The LikedIn Academy for Lawyers: The Starter Serieshere: https://vist.ly/3mt5vif Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.