
Real Business Owners
Trevor Cowley is on a mission to help business owners at any level develop personally and professionally by sharing his past experience building several successful business ventures. It's his goal to convey effective techniques and strategies that any business owner can implement TODAY.
Latest episodes

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Jul 26, 2022 • 1h 11min
Combatting Complacency with Nick Rastopchin| Episode 165
Nick Rastopchin, a driven entrepreneur and Russian immigrant, shares his insights on the perils of complacency in pursuit of success. He discusses how complacency can stymie personal and financial growth and emphasizes the importance of a proactive mindset. Drawing from his own experiences, Nick highlights the value of hard work and the importance of surrounding oneself with ambitious individuals. The conversation also delves into the challenges of navigating the St. George housing market and the anxiety entrepreneurs face in their journey toward success.

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Jul 19, 2022 • 35min
Setting the Bar | Episode 164
Exploring the true essence of being a good friend or family member, the discussion challenges listeners to convert good intentions into meaningful actions. It emphasizes the importance of accountability and setting a positive example. Personal anecdotes highlight how embracing challenges and striving for self-improvement foster growth and confidence. The conversation also underscores the significance of discipline, urging listeners to define their own paths to success rather than merely admiring others' achievements.

Jul 12, 2022 • 41min
The Hunt Ends | Episode 163
There are two kinds of people when it comes to businesses. There are starters: the people who are good at pulling an idea from nothing and making that idea happen. Then there are the finishers: the people who can take this idea and take it to the finish line. The starters and the finishes are both excellent at what they do in their own right, but the magic can only happen when you put the two together.
On this episode, Trevor and Kale discuss starters and finishers and why exactly they are important to a business’ success. From drawing on their own experience as starters running their business to providing several examples of starters and finishers in action, they will dive into the struggles they have experienced as business owners and the 3 month hunt that they have gone on to find the finisher that can take their business to the finish line.
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Jul 5, 2022 • 47min
Talking Trash with Garett Larson | Episode 162
Kale and Trevor talk to Garrett Larson, son of a hard working blue collar entrepreneur who taught Garrett the value of hard work.
Garrett is the owner of Larson Waste from Snowflake Arizona and shares wisdom he has gained from putting in the hours hauling trash and building a business and making sacrifices.
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Jun 28, 2022 • 46min
Recession Proof Your Business | Episode 161
The economy whispers to the business owner, "You can not withstand the storm."
The business owner whispers back, "I am the storm."
In this episode the guys talk about the elephant in the room. There are some things you can only learn in a recession, but it's a lot harder to learn when you're barely treading water and aren't prepared. Trevor and Kale discuss how business owners have been through recessions before and some business owners came out on tope and what we can learn from them.
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Jun 21, 2022 • 1h 5min
Victim vs Victor with Amanda Catarzi | Episode 160
Everyone reaches a point in their life where they run into obstacles and setbacks. The difference though is how we choose to respond and overcome these obstacles.
In this episode of Real Business Owners Podcast Kale and Trevor sit down with Guest Amanda Catarzi and discuss some of the obstacles presented in her life. From growing up in an oppressive cult community to being sex and work trafficked, Amanda will talk about the obstacles she has faced and what she has done to overcome them.
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Jun 14, 2022 • 40min
How Humble Leadership Really Works | Ep 159
Leaders are not defined by their title. They’re defined by what they do for the people who work for them. Your employees will succeed or fail on your watch.
One of the best characteristics a leader can have is humility. Most business owners feel they have to have all the answers, but best business owners know they only need to know where to find the answers and sometimes that means firing yourself.
In this episode, Kale and Trevor discuss the lessons in their ongoing quest to find their replacements in the daily operations of their business.
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Jun 7, 2022 • 43min
The Roadmap to Money Freedom | Episode 158
Most entrepreneurs start their business so they can have time and money freedom.
The reality is that most business owners just end up becoming an employee to their own business.
In this episode Kale Goodman shares the business and investment strategies that he uses to gain time and money freedom.
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May 31, 2022 • 31min
The Golden Handcuffs Handbook | Episode 157
Obviously, no one wants to lose integral key players of the day-to-day operations of your business.
One of the most common ways to avoid this is to pay them well and offer additional value compensation, but there are always risks in doing so.
In this episode Kale and Trevor examine the potential drawbacks of the proverbial golden handcuffs that we as entrepreneurs put on ourselves when we rely too heavily on just a few key players.
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May 24, 2022 • 34min
Design Your Life By Choice | Episode 156
Time is precious, and decision fatigue can overwhelm you. Learn to design your life by minimizing options and making purposeful choices. Discover the power of daily discipline and routine in fostering personal growth and strong relationships. Emphasizing intentional living, strategies like setting personal days can lead to a more balanced life. Explore how mindset and habits can transform your financial and emotional well-being, guiding you toward your aspirations and a more fulfilling existence.