

So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast
FIRE
So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast takes an uncensored look at the world of free expression through the law, philosophy, and stories that define your right to free speech. Hosted by FIRE's Nico Perrino.
New episodes post every other Thursday.
New episodes post every other Thursday.
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Jul 21, 2022 • 46min
Ep. 166 Substack, a platform for free speech?
Substack — the popular newsletter and publishing service — has made a name for itself by swimming against the current: As many technology companies devise new ways to censor or moderate content on their platforms, Substack made free speech one of its core values and, in doing so, has attracted bloggers and journalists from across the political spectrum. "While we have content guidelines that allow us to protect the platform at the extremes, we will always view censorship as a last resort, because we believe open discourse is better for writers and better for society," proclaimed Substack's founders. Lulu Cheng Meservey is Vice President of Communications for Substack. She went viral earlier this year when she tweeted about why free expression is an important principle for Substack. She joins us this week to discuss Substack, free speech, and the new media ecosystem. Show notes: Transcript Lulu's viral tweet thread "Society has a trust problem. More censorship will only make it worse." by Hamish McKenzie, Chris Best, and Jairaj Sethi Substack's "Content Guidelines" Substackers mentioned: Andrew Sullivan, Casey Newton, The Fifth Column, Patti Smith, George Saunders, Salman Rushdie, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Freddie deBoer, Nikita Petrov, Blocked and Reported John Stuart Mill's "On Liberty" www.sotospeakpodcast.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SotoSpeakTheFreeSpeechPodcast Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freespeechtalk/ Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org
Jul 7, 2022 • 50min
Ep. 165 Title IX gets twisted again
Last month, the U.S. Department of Education proposed new Title IX regulations that, if implemented, would gut essential free speech and due process rights for college students facing sexual misconduct allegations on campus. Joining us to analyze the regulations and their impact are FIRE's executive director and author of the book "Twisting Title IX," Robert Shibley, Allen Harris Law Partner Samantha Harris, and Brooklyn College professor KC Johnson. Show notes: FIRE press release Proposed Title IX regulations Current Title IX regulations "Twisting Title IX" by Robert Shibley Lawsuits filed by students accused of sexual misconduct, 4/4/2011 through 01/07/21 Post Dear-Colleague Letter legal rulings and settlements www.sotospeakpodcast.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SotoSpeakTheFreeSpeechPodcast Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freespeechtalk/ Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org

Jun 23, 2022 • 45min
Ep. 164 'The First Amendment created gay America'
"Every advance gay people have made in this country has been the result of the exercise of free expression," argues writer James Kirchick, author of the New York Times bestseller, "Secret City: The Hidden History of Gay Washington." Transcript: https://www.thefire.org/so-to-speak-podcast-transcript-the-first-amendment-created-gay-america/ www.sotospeakpodcast.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SotoSpeakTheFreeSpeechPodcast Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freespeechtalk/ Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org
Jun 6, 2022 • 1h 1min
Ep. 163 The new FIRE
Today, the Foundation for Individual Rights *in Education* becomes the Foundation for Individual Rights *and Expression*. America's leading defender of free speech, due process, and academic freedom in higher education announced it is taking its free speech mission beyond college campuses with a $75 million expansion initiative. FIRE President & CEO Greg Lukianoff and FIRE COO Alisha Glennon join the show to discuss how the organization is changing and why. Transcript: www.sotospeakpodcast.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SotoSpeakTheFreeSpeechPodcast Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freespeechtalk/ Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org
May 26, 2022 • 43min
Ep. 162 "Parental Advisory" and music censorship with Eric Nuzum
In this week's episode of So to Speak, we focus on some of the notable cases of music censorship in America, the formation of the Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC), and the lasting effects of the PMRC's efforts on the music industry. Author Eric Nuzum joins us to discuss his 2001 book, "Parental Advisory: Music Censorship in America." Nuzum illustrates examples of music censorship ranging from the Reconstruction era, when Southerners were prevented from publicly singing pro-Confederate ballads, to 1967, when the network that aired televised live performances by The Doors and The Rolling Stones asked the bands to alter their lyrics. Nuzum also discusses the PMRC's "Filthy Fifteen"; Senate hearings featuring John Denver, Frank Zappa, and Dee Snider; post-9/11 radio censorship; and more recent controversies involving the use of rap lyrics as evidence in criminal trials. www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org
May 9, 2022 • 1h 15min
Ep. 161 What did 'On the Media' get wrong about free speech … again?
Twitter is going to become 8chan. At least, that's what a recent episode of the popular radio program "On the Media" suggests will happen if Elon Musk successfully buys Twitter. Musk promised to bring greater free speech protections to the social media platform. But where Musk sees an opportunity for more freedom, some see the potential for too much freedom. On today's episode of So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast, Matt Taibbi, Nadine Strossen, and Amna Khalid discuss what "On the Media" got wrong and what they got really wrong in their episode "Ghost in the Machine." (No, "On the Media," Twitter will not become a platform for child pornography.) This is the second time we have addressed bad free speech arguments from "On the Media." The first time was last September, when this same group responded to the episode, "Constitutionally Speaking." Matt Taibbi is the author of four New York Times bestselling books. He writes a popular Substack newsletter, TK News. Nadine Strossen is a professor of law, emerita at New York Law School and served for 17 years as the president of the ACLU. Amna Khalid is an associate professor of history at Carleton College and the host of a new podcast called "Banished." Transcript www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org
May 5, 2022 • 46min
Ep. 160 Hugh Hefner, free speech scrapbooker
Did you know Hugh Hefner holds the Guinness World Record for owning the largest personal scrapbook collection in the world?When he was not building the global Playboy empire, he spent his Saturdays compiling more than 3,000 scrapbooks, chronicling free speech and press issues during his lifetime. Stuart N. Brotman, professor at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, was granted exclusive access to Hefner's scrapbooks. On today's episode, he talks about what he found and about his new book, "The First Amendment Lives On: Conversations Commemorating Hugh M. Hefner's Legacy of Enduring Free Speech and Free Press Values." Show notes: Transcript www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org
Apr 26, 2022 • 39min
Ep. 159 Disney and Elon Musk
Does Disney have free speech rights? And did Florida violate the First Amendment when it punished the company for its political activism? Elon Musk is buying Twitter. What should free speech advocates make of that? Recurring guest and famed First Amendment scholar Robert Corn-Revere is here to break it all down for us. He's a partner at the law firm Davis Wright-Tremaine, a member of FIRE's Advisory Council, and the author of "The Mind of the Censor and the Eye of the Beholder: The First Amendment and the Censor's Dilemma." Show notes: Transcript Subscribe to First Amendment News "Punishing Disney for Opposing Florida's 'Don't Say Gay' law poses Serious First Amendment Problems" by Robert Corn-Revere Open letter to Elon Musk from Greg Lukianoff on preserving free expression on social media Press Release: "Elon Musk to Acquire Twitter" Electronic Frontier Foundation: "Twitter Has a New Owner. Here's What He Should Do." www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org
Apr 21, 2022 • 1h 27min
Ep. 158 What is academic freedom?
What is academic freedom? And who polices its boundaries? Our guests on today's show argue that the popular conception of academic freedom has become too closely connected with the concept of free speech. Penn State Professor Michael Bérubé and Portland State Professor Jennifer Ruth are the authors of "It's Not Free Speech: Race, Democracy, and the Future of Academic Freedom." Show notes: Transcript The AAUP's 1915 and 1940 statements on academic freedom The AAUP's "On Freedom of Expression and Campus Speech Codes" "When Professors' Speech Is Disqualifying" by Michael Bérubé and Jennifer Ruth "Democracy, Expertise, and Academic Freedom: A First Amendment Jurisprudence for the Modern State" by Robert C. Post "How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of 'Race'" by David Reich SUNY Fredonia: Philosophy Professor Suspended for Philosophizing About Pedophilia, the Stephen Kershnar case "Hate Speech and the Limits of Free Expression," Kenyon College panel featuring Ulrich Baer (video) www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org
Apr 11, 2022 • 1h 23min
Ep. 157 Former BBC bureau chief Konstantin Eggert and what you need to know about censorship in Russia
Konstantin Eggert, a native Muscovite, has reported on Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union. He started his reporting career in Moscow in 1990. From 1998-2009, he was senior correspondent, then editor-in-chief, of the BBC Russian Service Moscow bureau. Later he worked for ExxonMobil Russia and Russian media outlets, Kommersant and TV Rain. Now, living in Lithuania, Eggert is a vocal critic of the Putin regime and has more than a few thoughts on censorship in Russia: specifically, how it compares to Soviet censorship, the decline of independent media in the country, Russian history, and the war in Ukraine. Eggert currently works for a German broadcaster, Deutsche Welle. Show notes: Transcript Eggert on Twitter: @kvoneggert Rulers and Victims: The Russians in the Soviet Union www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org


