
The 20 Minute Call - A Skydiving Podcast
The 20 Minute Call Podcast is a podcast about the dreamers, boundary pushers, rebels and champions of the skydiving industry. Each episode is a narrative journey highlighted by the highs, lows, and luck that the skydiving industry delivers told by the most influential people within the sport.If you’ve ever dreamed of becoming a skydiver, opening a DZ or becoming the next world champion, check out The 20 Minute Call hosted by James La Barrie
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Dec 2, 2024 • 1h 13min
Gustavo Cabana: Hall of Fame Skydiving Aerial Photographer
Text Me Your Thoughts On This EpisodeMy guest today is one of the world’s most celebrated skydiving camera flyers, with a career that spans over 30 years and more than 28,000 jumps. Gustavo Cabana, originally from Buenos Aires, Argentina, turned a simple VHS camera and a passion for skydiving into a lifelong profession, capturing some of the most iconic moments in the sport’s history. Gustavo is the only camera flyer to document four of the largest world records in skydiving, including the 400-way formation, the 168-way head-down freefly, and the 100-way canopy formations.With his camera, Gustavo has traveled to 28 countries, filming everything from national competitions to international boogies, commercials, and skydiving expeditions. His expertise has even led him to design and manage high-altitude oxygen systems, enabling new records in European skydiving. Beyond his work behind the lens, he’s a respected mentor, founding the Fly Camera School to make camera flying safer and more accessible to new jumpers.In 2023, Gustavo’s dedication to the sport was honored with an induction into the International Skydiving Hall of Fame. Now based in Catalunya, Spain, he manages his photo and video studio and continues to film at Skydive Empuriabrava, Europe’s premier drop zone.I’m thrilled to welcome Gustavo Cabana to The 20 Minute Call podcast!Media LinksGustavo's Website Gustavo's YouTube Channel736 Skydivers - The 4 Biggest Skydiving World RecordsGustavo's Induction into the International Skydiving Hall of Fame"In Search of the Perfect Jump"Gustavo's 35 Years of SkydivingSupport The ShowLove the show? Help support it by becoming a member of the 20 Minute Call Patreon Community or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Supporting the show gives access to a private group page where you can:- suggest who you'd like to hear on the podcast- learn what interviews will be upcoming- submit questions for future guests-receive show swagJoin our community and support the pod!Link: patreon.com/The20MinuteCallPodcastADVERTISEAre you interested in partnering with the 20 Minute Call as an advertiser? Let's work together! E-mail us at podcast@beyondmarketing.xyz

Nov 25, 2024 • 60min
Norman Kent - Iconic Skydiving Cinematographer (Part II)
Text Me Your Thoughts On This EpisodeIn part two of this two-part episode with Norman Kent, we resume our conversation, speaking more about Norman's professional career. If you've not yet listened to Part I, please listen to last week's episode first. Norman Kent is considered by many to be one of the greatest skydiving aerial photographers and cinematographers in the history of the sport. Norman Kent made his first jump at 19 years old. Now, at 68, he is still on the top of the mountain capturing the sport's most extraordinary images. At the time of this recording, the October 2024 cover of Parachutist Magazine is one of Norman’s images. With over 30,000 skydives made with a camera, Norman has witnessed and documented skydiving’s most extraordinary world records and beautiful moments. Some of these moments include capturing the Olympic Rings formation jump made during the Opening Ceremonies of the 1988 Olympic Games.This jump was broadcas live to one billion people around the globe to over 160 nations. Norman’s work has been published in prestigious magazines such Time, Playboy, the Guinness Book of World Records and Popular Photography. He has been part of blockbuster feature films such as Kingsman, Triple XXX, and Godzilla. He has shot commercials for the world’s largest brands including Smirnoff, Cocal-Cola, Visa and Ford, to name a few. I’m so pleased to welcome a skydiving icon, mentor and most of all, a thoughtful and warm human being, Norman Kent.MEDIA LINKSWebsite: Norman Kent ProductionsVideo: Aerial Pyro by Team FastraxVideo: NKP Commercial HTC PromoVideo: 100-Way Canopy Formation World RecordVideo: "Never Give Up"Video: "Deanna" a Tribute from Real TVVideo: Olympic Skydive Exhibition Team YouTube ChannelSupport The ShowLove the show? Help support it by becoming a member of the 20 Minute Call Patreon Community! Supporting the show gives access to a private group page where you can:- suggest who you'd like to hear on the podcast- learn what interviews will be upcoming- submit questions for future guests-receive show swagJoin our community and support the pod!Link: patreon.com/The20MinuteCallPodcastADVERTISEAre you interested in partnering with the 20 Minute Call as an advertiser? Let's work together! E-mail us at podcast@beyondmarketing.xyz

Nov 18, 2024 • 58min
Norman Kent - Iconic Skydiving Cinematographer (Part I)
Text Me Your Thoughts On This EpisodeMy guest today is considered by many to be one of the greatest skydiving aerial photographers and cinematographers in the history of the sport. Norman Kent made his first jump at 19 years old. Now, at 68, he is still on the top of the mountain capturing the sport's most extraordinary images. At the time of this recording, the October 2024 cover of Parachutist Magazine is one of Norman’s images. With over 30,000 skydives made with a camera, Norman has witnessed and documented skydiving’s most extraordinary world records and beautiful moments. Some of these moments include capturing the Olympic Rings formation jump made during the Opening Ceremonies of the 1988 Olympic Games.This jump was broadcast live to one billion people around the globe to over 160 nations. Norman’s work has been published in prestigious magazines such Time, Playboy, the Guinness Book of World Records and Popular Photography. He has been part of blockbuster feature films such as Kingsman, Triple XXX, and Godzilla. He has shot commercials for the world’s largest brands including Smirnoff, Cocal-Cola, Visa and Ford, to name a few. I’m so pleased to welcome a skydiving icon, mentor and most of all, a thoughtful and warm human being, Norman Kent. MEDIA LINKSWebsite: Norman Kent ProductionsVideo: Aerial Pyro by Team FastraxVideo: NKP Commercial HTC PromoVideo: 100-Way Canopy Formation World RecordVideo: "Never Give Up"Video: "Deanna" a Tribute from Real TVVideo: Olympic Skydive Exhibition Team YouTube ChannelSupport The ShowLove the show? Help support it by becoming a member of the 20 Minute Call Patreon Community! Supporting the show gives access to a private group page where you can:- suggest who you'd like to hear on the podcast- learn what interviews will be upcoming- submit questions for future guests-receive show swagJoin our community and support the pod!Link: patreon.com/The20MinuteCallPodcastADVERTISEAre you interested in partnering with the 20 Minute Call as an advertiser? Let's work together! E-mail us at podcast@beyondmarketing.xyz

Nov 11, 2024 • 1h 15min
Jen Davidson - Former US Army Golden Knight and Multi-Time World Champion
Text Me Your Thoughts On This EpisodeJen Davidson, a distinguished former member of the elite U.S. Army Golden Knights, has showcased her skydiving expertise in some of the most high-profile jumps worldwide, including an awe-inspiring jump at the Statue of Liberty and multiple high-profile stadium jumps as part of the demonstration team. Throughout her remarkable career, Jen has claimed multiple national and world championship titles, solidifying her legacy in the sport.Since retiring from the Golden Knights, Jen's commitment to pushing boundaries hasn't slowed down. She recently completed flight school and now pilots Black Hawk helicopters—a testament to her drive and adaptability. Jen's journey is marked by relentless pursuit of excellence and professionalism. Her leadership and mentorship have left an enduring impact on those around her, both in skydiving circles and beyond.Support The ShowLove the show? Help support it by becoming a member of the 20 Minute Call Patreon Community! Supporting the show gives access to a private group page where you can:- suggest who you'd like to hear on the podcast- learn what interviews will be upcoming- submit questions for future guests-receive show swagJoin our community and support the pod!Link: patreon.com/The20MinuteCallPodcastADVERTISEAre you interested in partnering with the 20 Minute Call as an advertiser? Let's work together! E-mail us at podcast@beyondmarketing.xyz

Nov 4, 2024 • 1h 22min
Brian "BK" Krause - Multi-Time World Champion & Former Team Captain of the Golden Knights
Text Me Your Thoughts On This EpisodeBrian "BK" Krause is a legendary figure in the skydiving community, with an impressive career that spans both military and civilian achievements. With over 23,000 jumps to his name, BK is known for leading the resurgence of the U.S. Army's Golden Knights 8-Way formation skydiving team. Under his leadership as captain and player-coach, the Golden Knights claimed a silver medal at the 2010 World Championships, followed by gold at the 2011 World Cup and 2012 World Championships.Beyond his own competitive success, BK played a pivotal role in establishing the Golden Knights’ all-women’s 4-Way team, which went on to win a World Championship just four years later—a testament to his leadership and vision. Even after his departure, the Golden Knights continued to thrive, winning three consecutive World Championships in 2014, 2016, and 2018, all tied to the foundation BK helped build.As a civilian, BK's achievements continued. In 2019, he rejoined his Paraclete XP teammates to win gold at the U.S. Nationals, defeating his former team. In 2022, BK added another World Championship title to his already remarkable legacy with XP8.BK’s contributions to the sport and his incredible journey make him a true icon in the world of skydiving.Support The ShowLove the show? Help support it by becoming a member of the 20 Minute Call Patreon Community! Supporting the show gives access to a private group page where you can:- suggest who you'd like to hear on the podcast- learn what interviews will be upcoming- submit questions for future guests-receive show swagJoin our community and support the pod!Link: patreon.com/The20MinuteCallPodcastADVERTISEAre you interested in partnering with the 20 Minute Call as an advertiser? Let's work together! E-mail us at podcast@beyondmarketing.xyz

Oct 28, 2024 • 1h 6min
Jeana Billings: World Champion in 4 & 8-Way Formation Skydiving
Text Me Your Thoughts On This EpisodeJeana Billings has made an incredible impact on the skydiving world since her first jump in 2013. In just a few short years, she has become a dominant force in Formation Skydiving competitions. In 2018, Jeana and her team, Paraclete XP8, won the U.S. National Championships in the 8-Way event. By 2019, she added to her accomplishments by becoming the World Indoor Skydiving Champion and later that year, earned the title of U.S. National Champion, representing the U.S. at the 2020 World Parachuting Championships in Russia.Jeana’s success doesn't stop at 8-Way; she also competes at the elite level in 4-Way Formation Skydiving. Her remarkable achievements have made her a highly sought-after coach, mentoring skydivers of all levels. On top of her full-time career as a competitive athlete and coach, Jeana balances life as a single mother to two teenage daughters.Most recently, Jeana achieved a stunning double victory, winning gold in both 4-Way and 8-Way at the Skydiving World Championships in Beaufort, NC. Competing with the all-women’s team, XPG4, and Paraclete XP8, Jeana has reached the peak of her sport in just eleven years. Her relentless drive and dedication continue to inspire others.Support The ShowLove the show? Help support it by becoming a member of the 20 Minute Call Patreon Community! Supporting the show gives access to a private group page where you can:- suggest who you'd like to hear on the podcast- learn what interviews will be upcoming- submit questions for future guests-receive show swagJoin our community and support the pod!Link: patreon.com/The20MinuteCallPodcastADVERTISEAre you interested in partnering with the 20 Minute Call as an advertiser? Let's work together! E-mail us at podcast@beyondmarketing.xyz

Oct 21, 2024 • 1h 31min
Kirk Verner - Multi-Time World Champion FS Skydiver / GM Skydive Paraclete XP
Text Me Your Thoughts On This EpisodeKirk Verner is a true legend in skydiving, with a remarkable career spanning decades. As a founding member of Arizona Airspeed, Kirk has amassed an incredible 72 gold medals at world and national levels in both 4-Way and 8-Way formation skydiving. His achievements place him among the most successful competitors in the history of the sport.Kirk has also made significant contributions beyond competition. He captained both the 300- and 400-way world record formations and has coached thousands of skydivers, revolutionizing training and flying techniques in both indoor and outdoor settings. He’s held leadership roles, including as a USPA National Director and chairman of the competition committee, and currently serves as the General Manager of Skydive Paraclete XP in Raeford, NC.In 2022, Kirk was inducted into the International Skydiving Hall of Fame. Just weeks after his induction, he secured another victory at the World Championships in Eloy, Arizona, the birthplace of Airspeed. His team continued their winning streak by claiming gold at the US Nationals and World Championships in Beaufort, NC, setting records with 37 points in a single round and achieving the highest average in 8-Way history with 23.9 points. Kirk's legacy in the sport continues to grow.Support The ShowLove the show? Help support it by becoming a member of the 20 Minute Call Patreon Community! Supporting the show gives access to a private group page where you can:- suggest who you'd like to hear on the podcast- learn what interviews will be upcoming- submit questions for future guests-receive show swagJoin our community and support the pod!Link: patreon.com/The20MinuteCallPodcastADVERTISEAre you interested in partnering with the 20 Minute Call as an advertiser? Let's work together! E-mail us at podcast@beyondmarketing.xyz

Oct 14, 2024 • 49min
Zainab Alibhai - Dropzone Owner, Go Jump Kenya
Text Me Your Thoughts On This EpisodeZainab Alibhai has defied expectations and broken significant barriers, earning a place of recognition within the international skydiving community. Originally from Kenya, Zainab made her first skydive in 2014—a life-changing experience that set her on a remarkable path. From that moment, she embarked on an unconventional journey, traveling across the globe to log enough jumps and earn multiple ratings. Today, Zainab is not only a Tandem Instructor, AFF Instructor, and Senior Rigger, but she is also the proud owner of a Go Jump Kenya, with operations in two locations.Her inspiring story of perseverance and determination in becoming a Dropzone Owner (DZO) is a testament to anyone facing obstacles in the pursuit of a dream. It’s an honor to welcome Zainab Alibhai to the 20 Minute Call Podcast.Support The ShowLove the show? Help support it by becoming a member of the 20 Minute Call Patreon Community! Supporting the show gives access to a private group page where you can:- suggest who you'd like to hear on the podcast- learn what interviews will be upcoming- submit questions for future guests-receive show swagJoin our community and support the pod!Link: patreon.com/The20MinuteCallPodcastADVERTISEAre you interested in partnering with the 20 Minute Call as an advertiser? Let's work together! E-mail us at podcast@beyondmarketing.xyz

Oct 7, 2024 • 1h 1min
Sherry Butcher: DZO, Aerohio & USPA Vice-President
Text Me Your Thoughts On This EpisodeSherry Butcher is a highly accomplished and influential figure in the skydiving community. She co-owns Aerohio Skydiving Center in Ashland, Ohio, and has been actively involved in the sport for over 30 years. Sherry made her first jump in May 1993 and has since made over 10,000 jumps. Her passion for skydiving led her to become a skilled instructor, eventually achieving certifications as an AFF Instructor, Tandem Instructor, Senior Rigger, and Skydive University Coach.Sherry has been engrained at Aerohio Skydiving since 1996, where she remains deeply involved in teaching, coaching, and organizing skydiving events. Her dedication to the sport extends beyond her business; she has served on the United States Parachute Association (USPA) Board of Directors since 2001, holding positions such as Secretary, President, and currently, Vice President. Sherry is particularly proud of her work with the USPA's Safety & Training Committee, where she has contributed to the development of global training methods and safety standards.Support The ShowLove the show? Help support it by becoming a member of the 20 Minute Call Patreon Community! Supporting the show gives access to a private group page where you can:- suggest who you'd like to hear on the podcast- learn what interviews will be upcoming- submit questions for future guests-receive show swagJoin our community and support the pod!Link: patreon.com/The20MinuteCallPodcastADVERTISEAre you interested in partnering with the 20 Minute Call as an advertiser? Let's work together! E-mail us at podcast@beyondmarketing.xyz

Aug 5, 2024 • 1h 22min
Rook Nelson | DZO, Skydive Chicago (Feb 2024)
Text Me Your Thoughts On This EpisodeIn this episode, we dive into the world of Rook Nelson, a respected figure in the skydiving community and the owner of the legendary Skydive Chicago. With an astounding 26,000+ jumps to his name, Rook is a decorated competitor, boasting 13 World Championship Titles, 17 World Records, and 36 National Titles. His passion for skydiving transcends personal achievement as he opens the skies to others through Skydive Chicago, hosting the renowned Summerfest, among other prestigious events from POPS Nationals to the World Championships. Listen in as we chat about Rook's personal thoughts on a myriad of topics from the perspective of being a skydiver, competitor, event host and business owner. TOPICS DISCUSSED AlchemyMotivationsRunning SummerfestRunning Skydive ChicagoMental HealthWinning and CompetitionFatherhood200-Way 2025Proud MomentsCancerJOIN OUR COMMUNITYLove the show? Help support it by becoming a member of the 20 Minute Call Community! Supporting the show gives access to a private group page where you can:- suggest who you'd like to hear on the podcast- learn what interviews will be upcoming- submit questions for future guests-receive show swagJoin our community and support the pod!Link: patreon.com/The20MinuteCallPodcastADVERTISEAre you interested in partnering with the 20 Minute Call as an advertiser? Let's work together! E-mail us at podcast@beyondmarketing.xyz
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