
Safety FM with Jay Allen
Safety FM with Jay Allen is a twice-weekly podcast exploring the evolving world of safety culture, human and organizational performance (HOP), and systems thinking—plus the occasional detour into topics that deserve a little disruption.Each week, you'll hear two distinct formats:A full-length episode featuring in-depth conversations with thought leaders, innovators, and unconventional voices from the world of safety, leadership, and work.A shorter, focused mini-episode offering insight, perspective, or commentary directly from host Dr. Jay Allen.Whether you're rethinking how systems function or questioning the status quo, this show invites you to engage with the complexity behind modern safety and performance.
Latest episodes

Jul 4, 2025 • 3min
EP 737 - Mini - Fireworks, Freedom & The Five Principles
It’s Independence Day in the U.S., and while most people are lighting fireworks, Jay Allen is lighting up your brain with something different: the Five Principles of Human and Organizational Performance. In this short holiday edition of Safety FM Mini, Jay challenges you to dig into these principles and consider how applying them could revolutionize your approach to safety—and life. A quick listen with a big spark.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jul 1, 2025 • 38min
EP 736: A Conversation with Gordon Walsh – Behind the Scenes at Energy Safety Canada
In this episode, Jay Allen reconnects with Gordon Walsh, Principal Consultant at the Safety Centre of Excellence for Energy Safety Canada, for a debrief following the recent conference in Banff. The two explore what goes into planning one of the industry's most respected safety events—including how topics like AI, tools-based learning, and even behavior-based safety found their way into this year’s lineup.Gordon shares how Energy Safety Canada curates its content, the evolving balance between theory and application, and why inclusivity in safety philosophy matters more than ever. The conversation also touches on leadership transitions, industry collaboration, and how the organization is addressing serious injury and fatality trends through accessible, frontline-ready tools.Whether you’re in oil & gas, construction, or just curious about the future of safety conversations, this episode pulls back the curtain on how impactful, real-world safety culture gets built.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jun 27, 2025 • 3min
EP 735 - Mini - No Change Needed
Today on Safety FM Mini, we discuss when change is not needed.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jun 24, 2025 • 47min
EP 734 - Ben Goodheart, Ph.D.
In this raw, unfiltered, and unexpectedly moving conversation, Jay Allen sits down with Ben Goodheart—founder of Magpie Human Systems and co-host of Punk Rock Safety—to talk about what happens after you buy into the principles of Human & Organizational Performance. From pediatric heart surgeries to punk rock field trips, Ben brings honesty, humility, and humor to the safety world in a way few can.They explore:What it's like observing literal life-saving work in hospitalsWhy “being human” is a philosophy, not just a polo shirtThe tension between simplicity and certainty in safety leadershipHow AI tools are helping safety pros reclaim time for human connectionThe real story behind Punk Rock Safety (and Neanderthal DNA)Why asking “now what?” might be the most important part of your HOP journeyRecorded live at Energy Safety Canada, this episode is more than a chat—it’s a signal to stay grounded, stay curious, and never believe your own hype.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jun 20, 2025 • 3min
EP 733 - Mini - CC4
Today it's all about the upcoming conference.Find out more information here - https://swiy.co/CC4Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jun 17, 2025 • 1h 16min
EP 732 - Jeff Lyth and Brent Sutton
In this special episode recorded live at the Energy Safety Canada Conference, Brent Sutton and Jeff Lyth deliver a compelling keynote on how the 4Ds—Dumb, Dangerous, Difficult, and Different—highlight the real-world challenges faced in day-to-day operations.They explore how organizations are applying Human and Organizational Performance (HOP) principles to bridge the persistent gap between work as imagined and work as done. The conversation evolves into the role of AI-powered tools in scaling operational learning, anticipating emerging risks, and designing better work for people.Brent and Jeff also address the growing AI dilemma—how we ensure trust, accountability, and fairness in AI-driven systems while navigating the tension between human error and technological advancement.At the conclusion of the session, Jay Allen had the chance to sit down with both speakers for a brief interview to reflect on the message and what it means for the future of work.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jun 13, 2025 • 5min
EP 731 - Mini - Big Day!
Today is a big day for us here at Safety FM! Listen why.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 18min
EP 730 - Claus Rose
Today will be an interesting one as we speak to Claus Rose, but before that, lets take a listen to his presentation about -This case study discusses GE Renewable Energy’s journey in developing MATE, the award-winning machine learning and AI tool designed to store and validate environmental, health and safety data.This tool, which has a 92 per cent accuracy rate, was developed in collaboration with multiple technology companies. The goal was to validate their EHS data with a tool that required zero human interface.At the end of the episode we sit with Mr. Rose to further the discussion on Safety FM with Jay Allen.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jun 6, 2025 • 3min
EP 729 - Mini - It's Not Only About Work
Lets not forget this important message!Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jun 3, 2025 • 1h 18min
EP 728 - Steve Scott
Today on the show, we listen to a presentation by Steve Scott that took place at Energy Safety Canada. Here is the content of the presentation - Many organizations have operated under the principle that "zero incidents" is the only acceptable outcome, believing every incident is preventable. Despite these efforts, serious injuries and fatalities still occur.Join Steve Scott in a session that challenges long-held safety beliefs and explores a new approach to protecting workers. This session will introduce the first principle of Human and Organizational Performance: Error is Normal.Instead of focusing solely on preventing injuries, what if we shifted our attention to protecting workers, even when things go wrong?Learn more about Steve’s transition from a "zero tolerance" approach to a focus on "failing safely" – and what that shift could mean for the future of workplace safety.Don't forget to listen to the convo between me and Steve Scott at the end of his presentation.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy