Reformed Fringe

Is Ezekiel 1 really about UFOs and ancient astronauts? Or are we missing something bigger? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dive into the strange imagery of fire, wheels within wheels, and four-faced creatures to show how Ezekiel’s vision isn’t about aliens, but the glory of God and His divine council. We unpack how this scene fits into the Bible’s bigger story, why it would’ve made perfect sense to ancient readers, and how reclaiming the Bible’s supernatural worldview points us to Christ. If you've ever wondered what Ezekiel was really seeing, this one's for you. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Host Websites: Jon Moffitt Doug Van Dorn YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [69]

Is the divine council worldview just fringe theology? Or can it actually fit within confessional Reformed categories? That’s the tension we’re pressing into in this episode. Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn take on the growing pushback from some in the Reformed world who see divine council theology, popularized by Michael Heiser, as incompatible with Reformed theology and the confessions. But is that critique fair? Can you hold to historic Reformed orthodoxy and affirm that the supernatural worldview of the Bible includes a real, functioning heavenly host? Is it heretical? Or just unfamiliar? And why have so many Reformed voices, past and present, quietly affirmed far more than some are comfortable admitting? If you've felt the tension between confessional boundaries and the weird-but-biblical parts of Scripture, this one’s for you. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Host Websites: Jon Moffitt Doug Van Dorn YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [68]

Recorded live at Grace Reformed Church in Nashville, TN, this special episode features hosts Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn exploring the mysterious world of Genesis 6. Together, we examine the controversial identity of the "sons of God" and the Nephilim, walking through biblical texts and early church history to weigh the natural and supernatural interpretations. We connect ancient giants to the broader biblical storyline of redemption and spiritual warfare. We unpack how New Testament writers like Peter and Jude interpret these strange events and why they matter for Christians today. Along the way, we emphasize a supernatural worldview often missing in modern Reformed circles. This episode is a thought-provoking journey into the fringes of Scripture that invites believers to take their Bibles—and the unseen realm—seriously. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Hosts: Jon Moffitt - http://jonmoffitt.com Doug Van Dorn - http://douglasvandorn.com YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [67]

Are aliens real? Are they physical, spiritual, or something in between? In this wide-ranging conversation, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn approach the topic not as clickbait—but as pastors. With compassion, Scripture, and curiosity, they explore how Christians can think biblically about supernatural encounters, abduction stories, UFO sightings, and the growing sense that something strange is going on in our world. What if angels, demons, and the unseen realm help explain what others dismiss or mock? And how do we shepherd people who’ve experienced things they can’t explain? Whether you're skeptical or seeking, this episode invites you into a conversation the church has often avoided—but can no longer ignore. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Hosts: Jon Moffitt - http://jonmoffitt.com Doug Van Dorn - http://douglasvandorn.com YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [66]

Is it possible we’re missing a vital “sense” when we read the Bible? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn explore what they call the sixth sense of biblical interpretation—a supernatural awareness grounded in Scripture itself. More than grammar and history, rightly reading the Bible requires a Christ-centered, covenantal, and cosmic lens that takes seriously the divine authorship behind the text. Drawing from six core interpretive tools—including continuity, context, and law/gospel contrast—they show how Scripture comes alive when we recover its heavenly dimension. This episode is both practical and paradigm-shifting for anyone who wants to read the Bible the way Jesus and the apostles did. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Hosts: Jon Moffitt - http://jonmoffitt.com Doug Van Dorn - http://douglasvandorn.com YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [65]

Why did every ancient culture worship multiple gods—and why does it seem like they vanished? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn explore a stunning reality: the gods never really left. From ancient paganism to modern materialism, we trace how spiritual beings—once openly worshiped—have simply gone underground, rebranding themselves in culture, media, and even religion. Drawing from Scripture, ancient history, and biblical theology, we show how the gods still influence the world today, just under new disguises. If you’ve ever wondered why the Bible forbids worshiping “other gods,” or how Paul ties sensuality to sorcery, this episode will challenge everything you thought you knew about the supernatural. The gods are still here—but only the gospel has the power to silence them. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Hosts: Jon Moffitt - http://jonmoffitt.com Doug Van Dorn - http://douglasvandorn.com YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [64]

Is the world less enchanted than it used to be—or are we just blind to the heavens above us? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn explore Clinton Manley’s Desiring God article “Do You See the Heavenly Hosts?”—a positive, re-enchanting vision of the supernatural realm. We walk through the “map of heaven” Scripture reveals: a real kingdom filled with messengers, guardians, ministers, armies, attendants, and a divine council—all centered around King Jesus. Drawing from Colossians, Psalm 82, and Isaiah 6, we challenge the materialism modern believers unknowingly breathe and invite you to set your minds where Christ is—seated in glory. This isn’t fantasy—it’s biblical reality. Join us as we put the fringe back into heaven. Clinton Manley’s Article - Do You See the Heavenly Host? JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Hosts: Jon Moffitt - http://jonmoffitt.com Doug Van Dorn - http://douglasvandorn.com YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [63]

Was Jesus actually in Genesis? Most Christians believe Christ shows up in prophecy or type, but what if He was physically present—over and over again? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn explore 20 stunning appearances of the pre-incarnate Christ throughout the book of Genesis. From walking in the garden, wrestling Jacob, and dining with Abraham, to commanding Noah and calling Hagar by name, we trace the embodied Son of God moving in real time through redemptive history. Using Christ’s own hermeneutic (Luke 24), we challenge the idea that Jesus is absent until the Gospels—and instead show that Genesis is saturated with the presence of the Son. If you think the Old Testament is silent on Jesus, this episode will blow that assumption wide open. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Hosts: Jon Moffitt - http://jonmoffitt.com Doug Van Dorn - http://douglasvandorn.com YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [62]

Could the people of the Bible really talk with Jesus in the Old Testament? What did the prophets actually see—and who were they speaking to? Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dive deep into the divine council worldview to show how Old Testament prophets weren't just hearing mysterious voices—they were encountering the pre-incarnate Christ. We explore how figures like Isaiah and Jeremiah stood in the presence of the second person of the Trinity, and how the Word of the Lord who commissioned them is the same Jesus revealed in the New Testament. If you've ever wondered how prophecy really works, or how Jesus shows up in places we’ve missed, this episode will change the way you read your Bible. Join us as we put the fringe back into prophecy. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Hosts: Jon Moffitt - http://jonmoffitt.com Doug Van Dorn - http://douglasvandorn.com YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [61]

Have you ever wondered why Jesus was baptized if He was without sin or why baptism is more than just a symbol? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dive into the often overlooked, supernatural dimensions of baptism through a distinctly Reformed lens. We explore how Jesus’ baptism connects to the Old Testament consecration of priests and how believers today are clothed in Christ’s righteousness, equipped as royal priests. We challenge the common view of baptism as merely an act of repentance and discuss the spiritual confidence that comes from understanding our identity in Christ. If you’ve ever questioned the deeper meaning of baptism or your role as a royal priest, this episode will give you fresh insight. Join us as we put the fringe back into baptism! JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Hosts: Jon Moffitt - http://jonmoffitt.com Doug Van Dorn - http://douglasvandorn.com YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [60]