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Jul 17, 2024 • 34min
EPISODE 46: New technologies, old hatred
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman explores the post-October 7th explosion of antisemitism, and how the world's oldest hatred is being turbo-charged by 21st century information technology, with Anti-Defamation League CEO Jonathan Greenblatt.

Jun 21, 2024 • 31min
EPISODE 45: Telling a different tale about Russia
In this episode, host Ilan Berman speaks with Tikhon Dzyadko of Russian opposition outlet TV Rain about his work, the current state of Russian independent media, and an alternative vision for the future of Russia.
BIO:
Tikhon Dzyadko is a journalist and the Editor-in-Chief of Russian opposition television outlet TV Rain (Dozhd), which is now headquartered in The Netherlands. He is the former deputy Editor-in-Chief and host of the RTVI channel and a former correspondent and presenter of the radio station Ekho Moskvy.

Jun 10, 2024 • 23min
EPISODE 44: The story of Israel's next war
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman checks in with Sarit Zehavi of the Alma Research and Education Center to learn what's really happening along Israel's border with Lebanon, as well as the true scope of the threat now confronting the country from the Hezbollah terrorist group and its patron, Iran.
BIO:
Lieutenant Colonel (Res.) Sarit Zehavi is the founder and president of Alma – a nonprofit and an independent research and education center specialized in Israel’s security challenges on its northern border. Sarit has briefed hundreds of groups and forums, ranging from US Senators, Congressmen/women and politicians to senior journalists and visiting VIP groups in Israel and overseas. Sarit scripts numerous position papers and updates focusing on Lebanon, Syria and Israel’s national security challenges. She served for 15 years in the Israeli Defense Forces, specializing in Military Intelligence. Sarit holds an M.A. in Middle East Studies from Ben-Gurion University. Her unique achievements led her to be selected by the Jerusalem Post as one of the Top 50 Most Influential Global Jewish personalities of 2021.

May 17, 2024 • 32min
EPISODE 43: Israel’s messaging challenges
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman talks to former Israeli government spokesman Eylon Levy about his experience on Israel’s informational front lines, and the areas where Israel needs to improve in order to get its message out in today’s increasingly contested and hostile global media environment.
BIO:
Eylon Levy is the host of the State of a Nation Podcast and a former Israeli Government Spokesman, representing Israel on international television and radio in the October 7 War with Hamas. He previously served as International Media Advisor to President Isaac Herzog after a career as a television news anchor. (Subscribe to State of a Nation here)

Mar 15, 2024 • 29min
EPISODE 42: The new fight over the future of TikTok
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with AFPC Senior Fellow in Indo-Pacific Studies Michael Sobolik about the new push in the U.S. Congress to limit the reach of TikTok, China’s wildly-popular social media app.
Bio:
Michael Sobolik is Senior Fellow in Indo-Pacific Studies at the American Foreign Policy Council in Washington, DC, where his work covers American and Chinese grand strategy, regional economic and security trends, America’s alliance architecture in Asia, and human rights. Michael also serves as editor of AFPC’s Indo-Pacific Monitor e-bulletin, AFPC’s review of developments in the region. His analysis has appeared in The Diplomat, Foreign Policy, The Hill, Jane's Defence Weekly, The National Interest, National Review, Newsweek, Providence, and RealClearDefense.
He is the host of Great Power Podcast, which examines America’s geopolitical strategy toward adversaries like China and Russia. Michael is also the author of Countering China’s Great Game: A Strategy for American Dominance, forthcoming from the U.S. Naval Institute Press later this Spring. Pre-order your copy today!

Mar 11, 2024 • 23min
EPISODE 41: Cutting through the “fog of war” in global conflicts
In this conversation, Shashank Joshi, Defense Editor of The Economist and expert on global conflicts, dives into the challenges of reporting amidst the 'fog of war.' He discusses disinformation tactics in the Ukraine conflict and how Russia has manipulated narratives to undermine support for Ukraine. Joshi also highlights the difficulty of disseminating accurate information in volatile areas like Gaza, urging a blend of traditional journalism and modern technology. The discussion touches on escalating geopolitical tensions in regions such as the South China Sea and India-China border.

Jan 26, 2024 • 22min
EPISODE 40: Tracking digital antisemitism
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Tal-Or Cohen Montemayor of digital watchdog Cyberwell about the post-October 7th proliferation of online antisemitism and misinformation, and how her company is working to keep social media platforms accountable.
Bio:
Tal-Or Cohen Montemayor is Founder and Director of CyberWell, an international technology-based non-profit that is working to combat the spread of antisemitism on social media. An Israeli lawyer, Tal-Or has provided analysis and consulting services to the Institute of National Security Studies, Israel’s Ministry of Strategic Affairs and the Jewish Agency. Prior to launching CyberWell, she worked in the web intelligence sector, serving most recently as an executive at Argyle Consulting Group in Tel Aviv.
Mentioned in this episode:
Cyberwell's new report, "Denial of the October 7 Massacre on Social Media Platforms," available online at https://cyberwell.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Denial-of-October-7-Social-Media-Trend-Alert-CyberWell.pdf.

Dec 28, 2023 • 27min
EPISODE 39: Pushing back against Russian propaganda
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with former Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty president Thomas Kent regarding the strategic logic underlying Russia's weaponization of disinformation - and the things Western governments can do to neutralize Russia's informational advantage.
Bio:
Thomas Kent teaches and consults on Russian affairs, journalism, and the problems of propaganda and disinformation. President of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty until 2018, he now teaches at Columbia University and consults for governments, NGOs, and news organizations. He is a senior fellow of The Jamestown Foundation. Previously, he was Moscow bureau chief for the Associated Press, head of the AP’s international news coverage, and editor for standards and ethics.
Mentioned in this episode:
Ilan Berman, Challenging Moscow's Message: Russian Disinformation and the Western Response (AFPC Press, 2023), https://www.amazon.com/Challenging-Moscows-Message-Disinformation-Response/dp/1956450890/ref=sr_1_1?crid=276TCMDHX4HT7&keywords=challenging+moscow%27s+message&qid=1703733780&sprefix=challenging+moscow%27s+message%2Caps%2C74&sr=8-1
Thomas Kent, Striking Back: Overt and Covert Options to Combat Russian Disinformation (Jamestown Foundation, 2020), https://jamestown.org/product/striking-back/
Thomas Kent, How Russia Loses: Hubris and Miscalculation in Putin's Kremlin (Jamestown Foundation, 2023), https://jamestown.org/product/how-russia-loses/

Nov 28, 2023 • 18min
EPISODE 38: Radical ideas, amplified
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks to Colin Clarke of the Soufan Center about the surprising new virality of Osama bin Laden's "Letter to America," and about the role of social media platforms in helping to amplify extremism more broadly.
Bio:
Colin P. Clarke is a Senior Research Fellow at The Soufan Center. He is the Director of Research at The Soufan Group, where his research focuses on domestic and transnational terrorism, international security, and geopolitics. Prior to joining The Soufan Group, Clarke was a professor at Carnegie Mellon University, and a senior political scientist at the RAND Corporation, where he spent a decade researching terrorism, insurgency, and criminal networks. At RAND, Clarke led studies on ISIS financing, the future of terrorism and transnational crime, and lessons learned from all insurgencies since the end of the World War II. Follow him on X (formerly Twitter) at @colinpclarke.

Nov 17, 2023 • 18min
EPISODE 37: Peeking behind Iran's informational curtain
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks to Golnaz Esfandiari of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty regarding the growing disaffection visible on the Iranian "street," official regime censorship and repression, and what the future holds for the Islamic Republic.
Bio:
Golnaz Esfandiari is the managing editor of RFE/RL's Radio Farda. She also serves as an Iran analyst for Freedom House, authoring the Iran chapter of their annual Freedom in the World annual reports. Her work has been published and cited by the New Yorker, Foreign Policy, The Washington Post, the Atlantic, and elsewhere. She has appeared on CNN, NPR, BBC, and other international media outlets. Follow her on X (formerly Twitter) at @GEsfandiari.