
Thursday Nights in AI
Every other Thursday night, we interview a founder, researcher, or operator in AI, to hear what's top of mind for them.
Latest episodes

Apr 23, 2024 • 39min
Episode 16: The Future of AI and Robotics with Medra CEO Michelle Lee
Michelle Lee, CEO of Medra, discusses the future of AI, robotics, and computer vision in laboratory automation. The podcast explores achieving autonomy in robotics, transitioning from academia to biotech automation, foundation models in robotics applications, challenges of level four autonomy in self-driving cars, and current limitations of language models in robotics.

Mar 13, 2024 • 50min
Episode 15: Selling AI to the Fortune 500 w/ Snorkel AI CEO Alex Ratner
Snorkel AI CEO Alex Ratner joins the hosts to discuss selling AI to Fortune 500 companies, data-centric versus model-centric AI, flashy demos versus actual production value. Snorkel Flow helps fine-tune generative models with programmatic approaches to enhance results.

Mar 6, 2024 • 1h 2min
Episode 14: The rise of the AI Engineer w/ Latent Space host @swyx
The podcast discusses the rise of AI Engineers with guest @swyx, exploring their journey from finance to tech, evolution of AI engineers, long context and multimodal AI capabilities, rapid-fire Q&A, comparing Mark Zuckerberg and Sam Altman in AI impact, ethical AI considerations, AGI implications, and computing power evolution.

Jan 28, 2024 • 48min
Episode 13: Open-source panel with Anton Troynikov, Brian Raymond, and Harrison Chase
Open-source leaders in AI, Anton Troynikov, Brian Raymond, and Harrison Chase, discuss topics such as chatbot development with Lang Smith, usage of Chroma in AI applications, building open-source and commercial products, limitations of vector search in AI retrieval, favorite AI companies and TV portrayals, and the importance of agility in developing language models.

Nov 15, 2023 • 44min
Episode 12: Chroma co-founders Anton Troynikov & Jeff Huber
Season One of Thursday Nights in AI is in the books. Catch our conversation with Jeff Huber and Anton Troynikov, Cofounders of Chroma, on open-source, embedding databases, building developer love, and where their product goes from here. Season two here we come!
This fireside chat is part of our 'Thursday Nights in AI" series, co-hosted by Outset Capital and Imbue and sponsored by WndrCo.
Join our upcoming events! Full list here: https://www.outsetcapital.com/thursday-nights-in-ai
About Outset Capital: Outset Capital is led by Ali Rohde, Kanjun Qiu, and Josh Albrecht — AI practitioners investing in AI, deeptech, and the future of work. We back companies at the outset and love to be the first check in.
About Imbue: Imbue is an AI research company aiming to rekindle the dream of the personal computer—by creating practical AI agents that can accomplish larger goals and safely work for us in the real world. They are hiring! https://imbue.com/careers
About WndrCo: Founded in 2016 by Sujay Jaswa, Jeffrey Katzenberg, and ChenLi Wang, WndrCo builds & invests in companies whose products are revolutionizing how people live and work. WndrCo's investments include 1Password, Aura, Databricks, Figma, Material Security, and Pilot.
About Chroma: Chroma is the AI native open-source embeddings database. Using embeddings, Chroma lets developers add state and memory to their AI-enabled applications.
Developers use Chroma to give LLMs pluggable knowledge about their data, facts, tools, and prevent hallucinations. Many developers have said they want "ChatGPT but for my data" - and Chroma provides the "for my data" bridge through embedding-based document retrieval.
Learn more about chroma: https://www.trychroma.com/blog/seed
Learn more about Anton: https://twitter.com/atroyn
Learn more about Jeff: https://twitter.com/jeffreyhuber
00:29 - How Chroma started
04:40 - Chat GPT's impact on Chroma
05:40 - How Chroma works
09:35 - Vector stores - when to use Chroma
14:20 - Serving Developers
20:40 - Programming AI with Data
25:00 - Reasoning models & other new products
28:12 - Specialized Data & Models
29:29 - Metadata filtering & Language Processing
31:15 - System retrieval evolution
34:31 - Consumer applications & devices
35:36 - Hardware
37:31 - Chroma feature requests
38:56 - Custom GPT
39:58 - Fine-tuning embedding models

Nov 3, 2023 • 44min
Episode 11: Glean CEO, Arvind Jain
Outset Capital's Ali Rohde and Josh Albrecht interview Glean CEO Arvind Jain. Special thanks to Volley for welcoming us to their beautiful HQ!
This fireside chat is part of our 'Thursday Nights in AI" series, co-hosted by Outset Capital and Imbue and sponsored by WndrCo.
Join our upcoming events! Full list here: https://www.outsetcapital.com/thursda...
About Outset Capital: Outset Capital is led by Ali Rohde, Kanjun Qiu, and Josh Albrecht — AI practitioners investing in AI, deeptech, and the future of work. We back companies at the outset and love to be the first check in.
About Imbue: Imbue is an AI research company aiming to rekindle the dream of the personal computer—by creating practical AI agents that can accomplish larger goals and safely work for us in the real world. They are hiring! https://imbue.com/careers
About WndrCo: Founded in 2016 by Sujay Jaswa and Jeffrey Katzenberg, WndrCo builds, buys, and invests in high-growth startups, including Airtable, Aura, 1Password, and Twingate.
About Glean: Glean is the world’s most advanced AI platform for the enterprise. They have powerful deep-learning models that understand your company’s information and users’ queries.
Your unique enterprise knowledge graph understands people, content, and interactions.
Connect to all enterprise knowledge and enforce the existing permissions of your data sources.
About Volley: About Volley: Volley is the leading developer of voice AI games for smart speaker platforms like Amazon Alexa, smartphones, and connected TVs. Volley’s quickly-growing team occupies a beautiful office in the heart of San Francisco’s Hayes Valley, and a spot on the 2022 YC Top Companies list!
Learn more about Glean: https://www.glean.com/product/overview

Oct 22, 2023 • 52min
Episode 10: Dr. Jim Fan, NVIDIA AI
Dr. Jim Fan, senior research scientist at NVIDIA AI, discusses his career trajectory, the importance of embodied agents in computer vision, challenges in building robust AI products, integration of retrieval and citations into LOMs, the future of gaming with intelligent NPCs, open source tools and reinforcement learning in AI agents, and the significance of research taste and pursuing simple and elegant solutions.

Sep 29, 2023 • 48min
Episode 9: Kanjun Qiu & Josh Albrecht, Imbue
Outset Capital's Ali Rohde interview @imbue_ai co-founders, Kanjun Qiu & Josh Albrecht.
This fireside chat is part of our 'Thursday Nights in AI" series, co-hosted by Outset Capital, Imbue, and WndrCo.
Join our upcoming events! Full list here: https://www.outsetcapital.com/thursda...
About Outset: Outset Capital is led by Ali Rohde, Kanjun Qiu, and Josh Albrecht — AI practitioners investing in AI, deeptech, and the future of work. We back companies at the outset and love to be the first check in.
About Imbue: Imbue is an AI research company aiming to rekindle the dream of the personal computer—by creating practical AI agents that can accomplish larger goals and safely work for us in the real world. They are hiring! https://imbue.com/careers
About WndrCo: Founded in 2016 by Sujay Jaswa and Jeffrey Katzenberg, WndrCo is a multi-stage technology investment firm that is focused on the Consumerization of Software. We build and partner with companies whose products are revolutionizing how people live and work. We invest where we’ve operated - Future of Work Software, Consumer Technology, and Cybersecurity - so that we can make an impact beyond invested capital.
Learn more about Imbue: https://imbue.com
Learn more about Kanjun: https://kanjun.me/
Learn more about Josh: https://joshalbrecht.com/
Learn more about the Archive: https://archive.house/
Check out Forbes' article about Imbue's $200M Series B: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonr...

Sep 23, 2023 • 45min
Episode 8: Anyscale CEO, Robert Nishihara
Outset Capital's Ali Rohde and Kanjun Qiu interview @anyscale CEO, Robert Nishihara.
This fireside chat is part of our 'Thursday Nights in AI" series, co-hosted by Outset Capital and Imbue.
Join our upcoming events! Full list here: https://www.outsetcapital.com/thursda...
About Outset: Outset Capital is led by Ali Rohde, Kanjun Qiu, and Josh Albrecht — AI practitioners investing in AI, deeptech, and the future of work. We back companies at the outset and love to be the first check in.
About Imbue: Imbue is an AI research company aiming to rekindle the dream of the personal computer—by creating practical AI agents that can accomplish larger goals and safely work for us in the real world. They are hiring! https://imbue.com/careers
About Anyscale: First there was Ray, an open source project from the UC Berkeley RISELab. Ray came out of their experience with the scaling challenges around machine learning and AI. From there, they built a fully managed platform for Ray to make the toughest problems in distributed computing easier for developers. That’s Anyscale.
Learn more about Anyscale: https://www.anyscale.com/
Learn more about Robert: http://www.robertnishihara.com/
00:00 Intro
01:18 Robert's founder journey
04:42 Difference between Anyscale and Ray
05:43 On what kinds of open-source projects make good business
08:17 How the AI boom changed Anyscale
10:00 Anyscale's new LLM API
11:05 How enterprise companies use Anyscale
12:50 How startups use Anyscale
13:35 Are big tech companies incorporating AI just to be included in the hype?
15:29 Anyscale and autonomous AI agents
17:20 Anyscale Endpoints and Anyscale Private Endpoints
18:04 Why companies don't want to give their data to OpenAI
19:45 Anyscale is the lowest price point on the market
20:40 Anyscale's new LLM-powered features
22:36 Open-source vs. closed source
23:24 Future of AI
24:24 Did Robert's vision for Anyscale come true?
27:12 "Under-hyped" fields in AI
28:32 How Robert is keeping up with advancements in AI
29:45 Q&A
29:59 Impact of GPU scarcity
31:49 NVIDIA monopoly
34:14 Looking back, will you still open-source Ray?
37:37 Conversion rate from Ray to Anyscale
39:00 Databricks: competitor or partner?
39:43 What layers of stack should an AI product have on Day 1?
40:48 What compute is more needed in the future: training or inference?

Sep 16, 2023 • 28min
Episode 7: LlamaIndex CEO, Jerry Liu
Jerry Liu, CEO of LlamaIndex, discusses the growth and applications of LAMA Index, explores expanded use cases and retrieval augmented generation, shares the journey of Loma Index from side project to comprehensive toolkit, talks about improving agent performance and the need for a reliable PDF parser, and announces updates and teases future developments.
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