

Kitces and Carl - Real Talk for Real Financial Advisors
Michael Kitces, MSFS, MTAX, CFP and Carl Richards, CFP
A no-holds barred conversation for Real Financial Advisors with industry nerd Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards. One draws with a Sharpie, the other nerds out with spreadsheets, and both provide you with unique perspectives so that you can more effectively communicate with and serve your clients, run a more fulfilling practice, and maintain a healthier lifestyle.
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Oct 24, 2019 • 39min
Is Any Financial Advisor Business Model Truly Conflict Free?: Kitces & Carl Ep 19
In our 19th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and financial advisor communication expert Carl Richards talk about these conflicts of interest, and the dilemma that financial advisors face when determining where to draw the line between a ‘manageable’ conflict of interest and one that is ‘unmanageable.’

Oct 10, 2019 • 36min
Talking Clients Off The Ledge From 'Scary' Markets: Kitces & Carl Ep 18
In our 18th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and financial advisor communication expert Carl Richards extend their last podcast and look at communication strategies advisors can use to set the stage for helping clients actually make better decisions after ‘talking them off the ledge’, using a three-part pyramid framework: the Plan, at the foundation of the pyramid (representing the financial plan itself that was developed around the client’s personal values and goals); the Process, in the middle (i.e., the method whereby an advisor helps their client determine how those values and goals will become reality); and the Product, at the top of the pyramid (which are the tools that were chosen but that are now the focus of the client’s fears and anxieties).

Sep 26, 2019 • 28min
Responding With Empathy When Clients Call About “Scary” Markets: Kitces & Carl Ep 17
In our 17th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and financial advisor communication expert Carl Richards talk about the importance (and challenges) of responding with empathy to clients who are upset or afraid. Because even though research in behavioral finance has helped us better understand the natural human proclivity to make irrational decisions, especially in times of stress and fear, the objectivity with which these paradigms have been created has perhaps unwittingly made it too easy for advisors to judge their clients for their impulsiveness, and subsequently become dismissive of what are normal and understandable reactions to stress. And while it is an advisor’s job to help their clients make good decisions, the real challenge is figuring out how to do so with kindness and empathy, and without behaving smugly with a sometimes-hard-to-resist “I told you so” attitude.

Sep 12, 2019 • 28min
Helping Clients Understand What It Really Means To Retire: Kitces & Carl Ep 16
In our sixteenth episode of “Kitces & Carl”, Michael Kitces and financial advisor communication guru Carl Richards explore different ways advisors can frame their conversations with clients when helping them envision and plan for a retirement they can actually look forward to, how to integrate relevant “what if” scenarios for a client that can help them truly understand the range of options available that they may not have otherwise thought possible, and practical ways to ask questions in a way that probes what clients love to do, what excites them, and what brings them joy – which, in turn, can spark retirement ideas that they will be truly motivated to pursue.

Aug 29, 2019 • 25min
Why Are We So Afraid To Just Listen: Kitces & Carl Ep 15
In our 15th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and financial advisor communication expert Carl Richards sit down to discuss the value of really listening to clients, and how, by simply talking less and listening more in client meetings, an advisor can improve the chances that a client will stick to their plan.

Aug 15, 2019 • 46min
Projection-Free Financial Planning To Avoid A False Sense Of Precision: Kitces & Carl Ep 14
In our 14th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and financial advisor communication expert Carl Richards explore the various functions that a physical financial plan deliverable plays in the financial planning (and client relationship trust-building) process, share their viewpoints on how written financial plans can be used effectively to help clients, and discuss what ultimately matters most for clients, regardless of whether their financial plan is one page or requires a 2” binder and color-coded tabs.

Aug 1, 2019 • 34min
The Better Way To Send Market (And Other) Commentary Emails To Clients: Kitces & Carl Ep 13
So, in our (lucky) 13th episode, Michael Kitces and financial advisor communication expert Carl Richards sit down to discuss why it’s important to send regular commentary, provide a specific example of an easy and effective way to let clients know that you are thinking about them and their challenges, and why it matters so much that it ultimately comes from you (versus any number of white-labeled, off-the-shelf offerings).

Jul 18, 2019 • 32min
Communicating With Clients To Bring Them Under The Cone Of Trust: Kitces & Carl Ep 12
For our 12th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and financial advisor communication expert Carl Richards sit down to discuss if sending market commentary to clients actually helps solve any problems (or if it’s just a relic of a product-centric industry), what sorts of clients benefit the most from proactive communication (and why), and ultimately, why sending investment market commentary to clients may be a good thing to do… even if the majority of your clients never even read it!

Jul 4, 2019 • 30min
What Do You Call Yourself - Planner, Advisor, Industry, Profession: Kitces & Carl Ep 11
In our eleventh episode of “Kitces & Carl”, Michael Kitces and financial advisor communication expert Carl Richards sit down to discuss the roots of various industry titles, why you might want to break the mold and call yourself something completely different (or not), and why the choice ultimately boils down to whether or not what you call yourself resonates with your target clientele.

Jul 3, 2019 • 37min
Transitioning Long-Standing Clients To Create Room To Grow: Kitces & Carl Ep 10
In our tenth episode of “Kitces & Carl”, Michael Kitces and financial advisor communication expert Carl Richards sit down to discuss some reasons you may need to start transitioning long-standing clients (some of whom may have given you a shot early on when no one else would, but consequently pay you far less than what it takes to service them) to make room so you can help others, some practical steps for communicating such a transition to those clients, and why arguably it’s your duty to do so… in order to ensure that all of your clients are getting the level of service they deserve.