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Church History Matters

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Oct 1, 2024 • 1h 6min

083 A Deep-Dive Into the "Bickertonite" Movement (w/Josh Gehly)

Josh Gehly, an ordained Evangelist in The Church of Jesus Christ, delves into the Bickertonite Movement and its roots in early church history. He discusses Sidney Rigdon's claim to leadership following the deaths of Joseph and Hyrum Smith, highlighting his establishment of a separate church in Pittsburgh. Gehly also explores the church's global outreach, leadership structure, and unique ordinances like foot washing. The conversation reveals the commitment to diversity and evolving practices that define the Bickertonites today.
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Sep 24, 2024 • 1h 1min

082 A Deep-Dive Into the LDS Strangite Movement (w/ Dr. Kyle Beshears)

In this engaging discussion, Dr. Kyle Beshears, a specialist in the LDS Strangite Movement, unpacks the perplexing legacy of James J. Strang. He explores Strang's magnetic yet controversial leadership, contrasting his initial resistance to polygamy with Brigham Young’s approach. The significance of the Vori plates in supporting prophetic claims is examined, as well as the mysterious Kinderhook plates and their disputed authenticity. Dr. Beshears also highlights Strang’s establishment of the Halcyon Order and the enduring impact of his movement on Latter-day Saint history.
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Sep 17, 2024 • 1h 14min

081 Who Are the Strangites, the Josephites, and the Bickertonites?

After the 1844 succession crisis, not all Latter-day Saints followed Brigham Young, leading to the formation of diverse groups. The podcast dives into the Strangites, Josephites, and Bickertonites, exploring their unique leadership and theological differences. Strang's controversial reign and the challenges of leadership succession created turbulence within these movements. Listeners will learn about the historical context of these branches and the complexities of their evolution over the past 180 years.
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Sep 10, 2024 • 56min

080 What If All the Apostles Died At Once? Succession Q&R with Dr. Daniel C. Peterson

Dr. Daniel C. Peterson, an expert on apostolic succession, tackles the intriguing question of what would happen if all Church leaders died at once. He explores how authority might shift and the potential loss of keys to the kingdom. The conversation dives into the process of calling apostles and whether personal witness of Christ is necessary for apostleship. With historical context and hypothetical scenarios, Peterson reveals the complexities and nuances surrounding Church governance and the importance of strong arguments in faith.
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Sep 3, 2024 • 58min

079 What If the Church President Can't Serve Due to Poor Health?

The discussion dives into historical roles of church leadership, particularly around the presiding patriarch's significance. Key clarifications regarding the First Presidency, including who can be chosen as counselors, are explored. The podcast also addresses how church governance adapts when a president faces health challenges. Succession dynamics, including notable rivalries and shifts in authority, highlight the evolution of leadership within the church. The impact of lineage and the dissolution of the patriarch office are thoughtfully examined.
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Aug 27, 2024 • 1h 7min

078 A Young Apostle Questions Succession By Seniority

Brigham Young, the second president of the Church, and John Taylor, the third president, discuss the evolution of the church's succession plan. They reveal how Young solidified the idea of seniority, while Taylor's presidency faced a challenge from a young apostle. The conversation dives into Wilford Woodruff's crucial role in resolving succession disputes and Lorenzo Snow's sacred experiences that established practices still followed today. Their insights highlight the dynamic tensions and divine guidance shaping church leadership through turbulent times.
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Aug 20, 2024 • 1h 10min

077 The Two Orsons and the Question of Succession

The podcast delves into the complexities of apostolic seniority within The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It explores how historical events shaped the criteria for leadership succession, examining simultaneous ordinations and the impact of excommunication. Key figures like Orson Hyde and Orson Pratt are discussed against the backdrop of early church turmoil and conflicts. The narrative also highlights shifts from age-based to ordination-date criteria for seniority, revealing intricate dynamics and personal struggles within church leadership.
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Aug 13, 2024 • 1h 17min

076 The Contested Reorganization of the First Presidency in 1847

This discussion features Sidney Rigdon, a pivotal figure in the early Latter Day Saint movement known for his contentious leadership style, and Brigham Young, the key leader who guided the migration to the Salt Lake Valley. They delve into the dramatic leadership struggles after Joseph Smith's death. Listeners will find gripping tales of Rigdon’s excommunication and Young's push to reorganize the First Presidency amidst spirited debates. The dynamics within the Twelve Apostles reveal an intricate web of authority, governance, and personal conflict during this transformative era.
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Aug 6, 2024 • 1h 16min

075 Six Days in August

The podcast dives into the crucial vote on August 8, 1844, that determined the future leader of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It contrasts the divergent paths of Sidney Rigdon and Brigham Young, exploring tensions during the succession crisis. A vibrant discussion unfolds around the alleged transfiguration of Brigham Young, captivating early followers. Insights into the implications of this leadership choice reveal how it forever shaped the church's trajectory amidst internal strife and external pressures.
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Jul 30, 2024 • 57min

074 Two Contenders: Sidney Rigdon vs. Brigham Young & The Twelve

Sidney Rigdon, a former confidante and first counselor to Joseph Smith, discusses the fierce leadership battle that erupted after the deaths of Joseph and Hyrum Smith. He highlights the tensions between himself and Brigham Young, who emerged as a strong leader amid a chaotic succession process. Rigdon reveals how his influence waned due to accusations and a deepening rift with Smith. The conversation culminates in the pivotal vote that determined the church's direction, showcasing the complexities of their intertwined legacies during a defining moment in history.

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