
Fat Mascara
Beauty journalists Jessica Matlin and Jennifer G. Sullivan have insider access to the industry and they’re not gatekeeping. On Wednesdays, they talk candidly about beauty news, cultural trends, and the latest products and treatments. On Fridays, they get their high-profile guests to open up about their relationship to Beauty Culture and the inner workings of the industry. Join the duo that pioneered the beauty podcast for a smart, funny, totally unfiltered discussion of all things beauty on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Latest episodes

Aug 14, 2024 • 41min
Ep. 543: Smoothing Eye Cream, Blush Placement & The Week’s Beauty News
Summer nights in New York City, perfume parties, new beauty commercials, Blake Brown Beauty, plastic surgery complications, a plumping blush (and where to put it), and tweezers for your pets…Jess & Jenn have a lot to discuss. Plus, in a special segment brought to you by Shiseido Ginza Tokyo and Acast Creative, we’ll introduce you to our new favorite eye cream. Big thanks to Shiseido for sponsoring this episode!Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/ep-543Products mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/732482Sponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/sponsorsPrivate Facebook Group: Fat Mascara Raising a WandTikTok & Instagram: @fatmascara, @jenn_edit, @jessicamatlinSubmit a "Raise A Wand" product recommendation: email info@fatmascara.com or text us or leave a voicemail at 646-481-8182 Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/fatmascara.
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Aug 9, 2024 • 54min
The Truth About Beauty Product Development with Maria Hatzistefanis
We’re getting into the not-so-glamorous details of building a beauty business with Maria Hatzistefanis, the founder & CEO of Rodial and Nip + Fab. We talk about contact manufacturing vs. white labeling, cost of goods, supply-chain issues, how to grow a brand without investors, and why there are so many celebrity lines. Plus: The surprising secret to creating a beauty product that goes viral. Whether you work in the industry, are thinking of starting a brand, or just want to know what happens behind the scenes, you’ll learn something new from this revealing interview. Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/maria-hatzistefanisProducts mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/722776Sponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/sponsorsPrivate Facebook Group: Fat Mascara Raising a WandTikTok & Instagram: @fatmascara, @jenn_edit, @jessicamatlinSubmit a "Raise A Wand" product recommendation: email info@fatmascara.com or text us or leave a voicemail at 646-481-8182 Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/fatmascara.
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Aug 7, 2024 • 54min
Ep. 542: Whole Body Deodorant, Pretzel Perfume & The Week’s Beauty News
A listener called in with questions about the new whole-body deodorants, and Jenn & Garrett are here to help. Plus, we’re discussing at-home sleep apnea testing; why more men are using prestige skincare; some highlights from Cosmoprof (including a waterless shampoo and conditioner); Auntie Anne’s new perfume; and—in Science Corner!—a study explaining why explosive visuals and language are so effective in fragrance advertisements.Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/ep-542Products mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/717529Sponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/sponsorsPrivate Facebook Group: Fat Mascara Raising a WandTikTok & Instagram: @fatmascara, @jenn_edit, @jessicamatlinSubmit a "Raise A Wand" product recommendation: email info@fatmascara.com or text us or leave a voicemail at 646-481-8182 Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/fatmascara.
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Aug 2, 2024 • 52min
Organizing & Cleaning Beauty Products with Vanesa Amaro
#cleantok star Vanesa Amaro explains exactly how to organize your beauty products and keep them clean. What’s the best way to remove lint and dust from a hairbrush? How do you get the inside of your makeup bag clean? Which cleaning products should you use if you’re sensitive to fragrance? Vanesa—a pro housekeeper and the Queen of Clean on TikTok—has all the answers. Plus, she shares her hair-growth secret, why her manicure doesn’t chip, and the technique she uses for makeup that lasts 18 hours. This interview originally aired the summer of 2022 and is still a listener favorite—for good reason! Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/vanesa-amaroProducts mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/707489Sponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/sponsorsPrivate Facebook Group: Fat Mascara Raising a WandTikTok & Instagram: @fatmascara, @jenn_edit, @jessicamatlinSubmit a "Raise A Wand" product recommendation: email info@fatmascara.com or text us or leave a voicemail at 646-481-8182 Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/fatmascara.
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Jul 31, 2024 • 41min
Ep. 541: Botox and Empathy, Makeup Etiquette & The Week’s Beauty News
Jess & Jenn discuss how to respond when people comment on your appearance. Plus: the “underconsumption” trend; a growing body of research that shows neurotoxin injections (Botox, Dysport, Xeomin, etc.) may limit your ability to empathize; beauty marketers using Reddit to sell their products; Borghese spa mud; and the science of lip-softening balms (like the new one from Eadem).Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/ep-541Products mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/702318Sponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/sponsorsPrivate Facebook Group: Fat Mascara Raising a WandTikTok & Instagram: @fatmascara, @jenn_edit, @jessicamatlinSubmit a "Raise A Wand" product recommendation: email info@fatmascara.com or text us or leave a voicemail at 646-481-8182 Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/fatmascara.
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Jul 26, 2024 • 47min
The History of Hairstyling with Rachael Gibson
Learn how the U.S. military was involved in the development of hairspray, why redheads are so prevalent in Pre-Raphaelite paintings, and the surprising way women in Renaissance Italy used to dye their hair in this fascinating interview with hair historian Rachael Gibson. We also talk about hair as a symbol of resistance, the evolution of the modern salon business, how technological advancements inspire new looks, and why hair trends often come back around.Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/rachael-gibsonProducts mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/691996Sponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/sponsorsPrivate Facebook Group: Fat Mascara Raising a WandTikTok & Instagram: @fatmascara, @jenn_edit, @jessicamatlinSubmit a "Raise A Wand" product recommendation: email info@fatmascara.com or text us or leave a voicemail at 646-481-8182 Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/fatmascara.
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Jul 24, 2024 • 48min
Ep. 540: How Exercise Affects Botox, Fragrance Concentrations (Explained) & The Week’s Beauty News
It’s a very sporty episode with Jenn & Julee: We’re talking about Olympian Suni Lee’s nails, how exercise affects the longevity of neurotoxin injections, the best sports bra for runners (Julee knows— she used to be a track star!), and more. Plus: Elizabeth Banks’s new movie, Skincare, and its real life inspiration; a detailed explanation of fragrance concentrations; beauty products that are better together; and the only hair gel that will keep your edges smooth and your style slicked-back when it's humid.Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/ep-540Products mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/687476Sponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/sponsorsPrivate Facebook Group: Fat Mascara Raising a WandTikTok & Instagram: @fatmascara, @jenn_edit, @jessicamatlinSubmit a "Raise A Wand" product recommendation: email info@fatmascara.com or text us or leave a voicemail at 646-481-8182 Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/fatmascara.
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Jul 19, 2024 • 59min
We’re Curious About Jonathan Van Ness…
…and vice versa. In this collaborative episode, Jess & Jenn get vulnerable with Jonathan Van Ness, the Queer Eye star, host of the podcasts Getting Curious and Pretty Curious, and founder of JVN Hair. We swap beauty stories and discuss what first drew us to the industry. Plus, Jonathan opens up his struggles with social media and the bankruptcy of his brand’s parent company, and we chat about the beauty trend cycle, Y2K hair looks, what makes beauty products so nostalgic—and mukbangs, Fortnite, and pickleball.Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/jvnProducts mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/676125Sponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/sponsorsPrivate Facebook Group: Fat Mascara Raising a WandTikTok & Instagram: @fatmascara, @jenn_edit, @jessicamatlinSubmit a "Raise A Wand" product recommendation: email info@fatmascara.com or text us or leave a voicemail at 646-481-8182 Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/fatmascara.
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Jul 17, 2024 • 43min
Ep. 539: Tips for Beauty Entrepreneurs, the Miss AI Pageant & The Week’s Beauty News
First, can we talk about the Devil Wears Prada sequel? After that, Jenn & Jess discuss strawberry perfumes; share tips for entrepreneurs from the Estée Lauder Companies' New Incubation Ventures Symposium; and chat about the Miss AI beauty pageant, Troye Sivan's gig as the makeup ambassador for Rabanne, heavy metals in tampons, and why the young people in old television shows look so…not young. Then, let’s Raise A Wand to Makeup By Mario’s universally flattering blush extensions and the new Sarah Creal Beauty mascara.Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/ep-539Books mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/671389Sponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/sponsorsPrivate Facebook Group: Fat Mascara Raising a WandTikTok & Instagram: @fatmascara, @jenn_edit, @jessicamatlinSubmit a "Raise A Wand" product recommendation: email info@fatmascara.com or text us or leave a voicemail at 646-481-8182 Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/fatmascara.
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Jul 12, 2024 • 1h 1min
How Technology Is Changing Beauty Culture with Dr. Alex Box
Futurist, tech CEO, and makeup artist Alex Box, DDes, is working to make sure that as technology continues to evolve, our humanity and creativity isn’t lost. If you feel like social media, AI, and the metaverse are negatively affecting beauty standards, our self-esteem, and artist creativity, Alex offers an alternative: What if we all work together to change the systems? In this interview, she discusses “digital dignity,” how virtual spaces can inspire real-world connections, how to avoid echo chambers, and V-Metics, a virtual cosmetics software company she founded to help makeup artists transition their skills into the metaverse—and get proper credit for the work they do. Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/alex-boxBooks mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/660389Sponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/sponsorsPrivate Facebook Group: Fat Mascara Raising a WandTikTok & Instagram: @fatmascara, @jenn_edit, @jessicamatlinSubmit a "Raise A Wand" product recommendation: email info@fatmascara.com or text us or leave a voicemail at 646-481-8182 Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/fatmascara.
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