
Wonderland on Points | Credit Card Rewards & Budget Travel
A show where two adventurous moms share everything they have learned about traveling on credit card points and how to explore the world on a budget.
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Jul 7, 2025 • 50min
125. Dreamy California All-Inclusive: How to Book the Alila Ventana Big Sur on Points
In this episode, we’re diving into one of the most aspirational redemptions in the world of points and miles—Alila Ventana Big Sur, a luxurious adults-only, all-inclusive Hyatt resort tucked along California’s stunning coastline. We’re joined by social worker and points enthusiast Deb, who shares how she booked this $1700+-per-night property using points, and why she says it was 100% worth it.Deb opens up about how travel has become a vital outlet for avoiding burnout in her emotionally demanding career, and how discovering points and miles through a Chase Sapphire Preferred bonus changed everything. She walks us through her strategy for locking in a three-night stay at Ventana using Hyatt points, including how she searched for elusive award space using hotel search aggregator tools. She also shares details about getting there with airline miles, her room upgrade to a Big Sur suite, and all the stunning extras that made the trip unforgettable—like forest bathing, coastal hikes, beekeeping, and nightly s’mores.If you’ve ever dreamed of staying at Ventana—or wondered whether luxury travel on a budget is really possible—this episode will inspire you to dream bigger and dive deeper into the world of points and miles. Deb also gives us a preview of her upcoming session at the Travel More Conference, where she’ll be teaching others how to find award availability for high-end hotels using advanced search tools.Submit Your Summer Road Trip Series Story HEREFacebook GroupFind Us On InstagramMary Ellen | Jo | DebHelpful LinksJoin Us At TravelMore Con In October!Affiliate LinksMary Ellen's Chase Sapphire LinkJoanna's Chase Sapphire LinkMary Ellen's Freedom Flex LinkJoanna's Freedom Flex LinkMary Ellen's Ink Business Cards LinkJoanna's Ink Business Cards Link30% off the CardPointers subscription!Credit Card Affiliate LinksThe above link includes referrals for Capital One Travel Cards. If you need AMEX or Chase please reach out and we would be happy to send you our personal referral links.We receive a small commission when you use our links. This is an amazing way to show your support for the show at no cost to you ❤️

Jul 2, 2025 • 21min
124. Midweek Mini- The NEW CHASE BANK ERA: How to Maximize and Prioritize Your Earning Categories OVER Sign Up Bonuses As Things Continue to Shift
Today on our Midweek Mini we are taking a small break from summer road trips and we’re diving into the ever-evolving world of points and miles—and how we’re adjusting our strategy to keep up. With recent changes to Chase’s sign-up bonus language, we’re starting to shift our focus away from chasing (pun intended) welcome offers and instead doubling down on everyday spending and earning categories.We talk about how the Chase Freedom Flex has become a staple in our wallets, especially when we can line up our real-life spending with the rotating categories. This quarter, Instacart and gas are big wins, and we break down how we’re using those to rack up serious points. We also share how tools like Card Pointers help us stay organized and make sure we’re always using the best card for every purchase.If you’ve ever felt like the points and miles landscape is changing faster than you can keep up, you’re not alone. We’re in it with you—and in this episode, we walk through the exact strategies we’re using to keep earning more and spending less. Because even without a big sign-up bonus, there are still plenty of ways to keep your travel dreams alive.Submit Your Summer Road Trip Series Story HEREFacebook GroupFind Us On InstagramMary Ellen | JoHelpful LinksInstagram reel with math breakdownAffiliate LinksMary Ellen's Chase Sapphire LinkJoanna's Chase Sapphire LinkMary Ellen's Freedom Flex LinkJoanna's Freedom Flex LinkMary Ellen's Ink Business Cards LinkJoanna's Ink Business Cards Link30% off the CardPointers subscription!Credit Card Affiliate LinksThe above link includes referrals for Capital One Travel Cards. If you need AMEX or Chase please reach out and we would be happy to send you our personal referral links.We receive a small commission when you use our links. This is an amazing way to show your support for the show at no cost to you ❤️

Jun 30, 2025 • 1h 19min
123. Exploring England’s Beautiful Countryside: Our National Park Road Trip Itinerary Through the Cotswolds, Peak District and Yorkshire Dales
Today on Wonderland on Points, we’re heading out of the city and into the storybook charm of the English countryside! Jo shares all the highlights from her family’s recent road trip through two of England’s most picturesque regions: the Cotswolds and the Yorkshire Dales (with a fun little national park detour in between). From booking flights with points to tackling the adventure of renting a car and driving on the “wrong” side of the road, she walks through exactly how they made this dream trip happen—without blowing the budget.You’ll hear about the magic of the Cotswolds, where each village felt like stepping into a Jane Austen novel, and the peaceful charm of Tewkesbury, including a visit to the breathtaking Tewkesbury Abbey. Joanna also talks about exploring the Yorkshire Dales on horseback, a highlight that brought a whole new perspective to the stunning scenery. Traveling by car gave their family the flexibility to chase spontaneous detours and discover unexpected gems along the way.Whether you’re dreaming of a countryside getaway or already planning your own English road trip, this episode is packed with practical tips and inspiration for seeing the UK beyond the big cities—creating family memories that will last a lifetime.Submit Your Summer Road Trip Series Story HEREFacebook GroupOur Episode SponsorsTour Radar MomentsFirefly Recovery - Use code "WONDERLAND" for 15% off your orderFind Us On InstagramMary Ellen | JoHelpful LinksTripiamo for the UK (if you need driving guides for other places let us know! We have links for you!)Affiliate LinksMary Ellen's Chase Sapphire LinkJoanna's Chase Sapphire Link30% off the CardPointers subscription!Credit Card Affiliate LinksThe above link includes referrals for Capital One Travel Cards. If you need AMEX or Chase please reach out and we would be happy to send you our personal referral links.We receive a small commission when you use our links. This is an amazing way to show your support for the show at no cost to you ❤️

Jun 25, 2025 • 14min
122. Summer Roadtrip Mini: The BEST Midwest Hidden Gem That You've NEVER Heard Of! Welcome to Bentonville, Arkansas
Today on another Midweek Mini—road trip edition—we’re bringing you a total gem for our Midwest listeners! Bentonville, Arkansas might not have been on your radar before, but it definitely will be after this episode. This small town is packed with surprises: world-class art at Crystal Bridges, a walkable downtown filled with charming shops and restaurants, incredible bike trails, and some seriously impressive food. Whether you're a history buff, foodie, art lover, or just need a peaceful weekend away, Bentonville truly has something for everyone. We walk you through where to stay, what to eat, and all the best things to do to make the most of your visit to this historic and unexpectedly cool destination.Submit Your Summer Road Trip Series Story HEREFacebook GroupFind Us On InstagramMary Ellen | JoHelpful LinksBentonville Interactive MapAffiliate LinksOur personal links may not YET reflect the elevated sign up bonus- but they will shortly! Thank you for choosing to use our links! These links can be used for ANY of the Sapphire cards.Mary Ellen's Chase Sapphire LinkJoanna's Chase Sapphire Link30% off the CardPointers subscription!Credit Card Affiliate LinksThe above link includes referrals for almost all travel cards (AMEX, CapitalOne, co-branded cards)We receive a small commission when you use our links. This is an amazing way to show your support for the show at no cost to you ❤️

Jun 23, 2025 • 1h 2min
121. BREAKING NEWS! Chase Sapphire Reserve REFRESH- New Welcome Offer Announcement Plus ALL the Changes for the CSR
Today on Wonderland on Points, we’ve got BIG NEWS!Chase just launched a brand-new welcome bonus for the Sapphire Reserve as well as ENTIRELY refreshing the earning and benefits and we’re breaking it all down in this episode. We’re joined by our go-to credit card correspondent, travel and finance journalist Katherine Fan, who helps us unpack all the details.We’ll walk you through the updated annual fee, the refreshed bonus categories, and the current lineup of card benefits to help you decide whether the new Sapphire Reserve deserves a spot in your wallet. AND we will announce the BRAND NEW SHINY welcome offer.After you listen, we’d love to hear your thoughts! Are you planning to apply for this revamped card, or is it a pass for you? Come join the conversation in our Wonderland on Points Facebook group and let us know!Sponsors For This EpisodeTour Radar MomentsFind Us On InstagramMary Ellen | Jo | KatherineHelpful LinksKatherine's SubstackOur personal links may not YET reflect the elevated sign up bonus- but they will shortly! Thank you for choosing to use our links! These links can be used for ANY of the Sapphire cards.Katherine's Chase Sapphire LinkMary Ellen's Chase Sapphire LinkJoanna's Chase Sapphire LinkAffiliate Links30% off the CardPointers subscription!Credit Card Affiliate LinksThe above link includes referrals for almost all travel cards (AMEX, CapitalOne, co-branded cards)If you need Chase links please reach out! We would be happy to send you our personal referral links or the Daily Drop newsletter link that will allow you to access our affiliate links.We receive a small commission when you use our links. This is an amazing way to show your support for the show at no cost to you ❤️

Jun 18, 2025 • 19min
120. Summer Road Trip Mini: Spanish Moss & Southern Magic- A Savannah, GA Getaway
In this Midweek Mini, we take you to the cobblestone streets and Spanish moss of Savannah, Georgia—submitted by Wendy. It is an amazing spot for a charming, walkable weekend escape. We chat about the best times to visit (spring and fall are ideal!), where to stay for easy access to the city’s highlights, and the can’t-miss food and experiences that make Savannah so memorable.We share our love for the historic district and accommodations like the Andaz, which even includes bike rentals to help you explore. From iconic Southern dining at The Grey and The Old Pink House to strolling through Forsyth Park or along the river walk, Savannah offers something for everyone. We also touch on the city’s vibrant culture, including its lively nightlife and, of course, the wildly entertaining Savannah Bananas baseball team.Whether you’re into history, food, or just soaking in the charm of the South, Savannah is a weekend destination worth adding to your list.Submit Your Summer Road Trip Series Story HEREFacebook GroupSponsors For This Episode30% off the CardPointers subscription!Find Us On InstagramMary Ellen | JoAffiliate LinksCredit Card Affiliate LinksSign up for the Daily Drop NewsletterThe above link includes referrals for almost all travel cards (AMEX, CapitalOne, co-branded cards)If you need Chase links please reach out! We would be happy to send you our personal referral links or the Daily Drop newsletter link that will allow you to access our affiliate links.We receive a small commission when you use our links. This is an amazing way to show your support for the show at no cost to you ❤️

Jun 16, 2025 • 1h 8min
119. Travel Smarter: Credit Card Rewards, Taxes & Family Finance with Jamie Trull
In this episode, we’re joined by financial educator and profit strategist Jamie Trull for a conversation that bridges travel, family, and finance. Jamie shares how her background as a CPA led her to help families and small business owners make smarter financial decisions—and how those choices can open the door to more meaningful (and affordable) travel.We dig into how points and miles fit into a bigger financial strategy, the importance of separating personal and business expenses, and when it might make sense to form an LLC or S-Corp. Jamie also breaks down the often-overlooked tax implications of credit card rewards and offers tips for keeping finances organized to maximize benefits.One highlight? Our chat about teaching kids financial literacy—whether by adding them as authorized users, paying them through a family business, or simply involving them in travel budgeting. Jamie encourages families to create “fun funds” by setting aside a percentage of profits, making room for joy and connection without financial guilt.This episode is packed with practical advice and empowering insights for anyone looking to make their money—and their miles—go further.Submit Your Summer Road Trip Series Story HEREFacebook GroupSponsors For This EpisodeTour Radar MEGA Sale!Find Us On InstagramMary Ellen | JoJamie's ResourcesHire Your Kids MasterclassHidden Profit BookYoutube ChannelInstagramFacebookAffiliate LinksCredit Card Affiliate LinksThe above link includes referrals for almost all travel cards (AMEX, CapitalOne, co-branded cards)If you need Chase links please reach out! We would be happy to send you our personal referral links or the Daily Drop newsletter link that will allow you to access our affiliate links.We receive a small commission when you use our links. This is an amazing way to show your support for the show at no cost to you ❤️

Jun 11, 2025 • 17min
118. Summer Road Trip Mini: Family Fun on Florida’s Emerald Coast- From Destin to Panama City Beach
In this Midweek Mini, we’re heading to the sugar-white sands and emerald waters of Destin, Florida thanks to our listener Katie—but it just so happens, this is one of our favorite beach destinations for our families as well. We share our own experiences exploring this stretch of the Emerald Coast and offer tips for making the most of your trip, from the best times to visit to our favorite spots for outdoor adventures.We talk about quieter, family-friendly beach options like Henderson Beach State Park, fun outings to Crab Island, and activities like parasailing and snorkeling that add a little thrill to your beach days. And of course, we couldn’t leave out the food—whether it’s kid-friendly spots like Fudd Pucker’s or the food trucks in Seaside, Destin is full of delicious finds.If you’re dreaming of a beach trip that’s easy, fun, and packed with things to do, this episode will help you plan your perfect getaway to Florida’s Emerald Coast.Submit Your Summer Road Trip Series Story HEREFacebook GroupFind Us On InstagramMary Ellen | JoAffiliate LinksCredit Card Affiliate LinksThe above link includes referrals for almost all travel cards (AMEX, CapitalOne, co-branded cards)If you need Chase links please reach out! We would be happy to send you our personal referral links or the Daily Drop newsletter link that will allow you to access our affiliate links.We receive a small commission when you use our links. This is an amazing way to show your support for the show at no cost to you ❤️

Jun 9, 2025 • 59min
117. Taiwan Travel Guide: Points Tips, Itinerary Planning & Must-See Spots with Katherine Fan
In this episode, we’re joined by journalist and seasoned traveler Katherine Fan for a heartfelt conversation about visiting Taiwan—one of Asia’s most underrated and welcoming destinations. Katherine shares her personal connection to the island and offers practical tips for planning a meaningful and efficient trip.We talk about why Taiwan is a great choice for families and solo travelers, from its safety and public transit to its rich culture and incredible food scene. Katherine walks us through itinerary ideas, must-visit cities, outdoor adventures, and, of course, the night markets.We also dive into travel logistics, including visa-free entry for U.S. passport holders, booking hotels with points, and using tools like MaxMyPoints and Time Shifter to streamline your trip. Whether you're heading to the hot springs, hiking a national park, or sipping bubble tea in Taipei, this episode will get you inspired and prepared.ENTER THE GIVEAWAY FOR FREE HOP ON HOP OFF BUS PASSESKatherine's SubstackSubmit Your Summer Roadtrip Series Story HEREFacebook GroupSponsors For This Episode30% off the CardPointers subscription!Find Us On InstagramMary Ellen | Jo | KatherineMentioned in this EpisodeAntarctica Episode with KatherineHelpful LinksTravel and Leisure ArticleSheraton Grand TaipeiSongshan Cultural ParkAffiliate LinksCredit Card Affiliate LinksThe above link includes referrals for almost all travel cards (AMEX, CapitalOne, co-branded cards)If you need Chase links please reach out! We would be happy to send you our personal referral links or the Daily Drop newsletter link that will allow you to access our affiliate links.We receive a small commission when you use our links. This is an amazing way to show your support for the show at no cost to you ❤️

Jun 4, 2025 • 19min
116. Summer Road Trip Mini: Southwestern US National Park Loop Starting in El Paso
In this Midweek Mini, we dive into a listener-submitted road trip itinerary (thank you Lauren!) that kicks off in El Paso, Texas and explores three stunning national parks—Guadalupe Mountains, Carlsbad Caverns, and White Sands. We chatted about the best times to visit (hint: avoid the peak summer heat!), where to stay using points with Hilton and Hyatt, and the unique experiences each park offers—from hiking to the highest point in Texas to sledding down sand dunes.We also shared why a stop in quirky, alien-themed Roswell is worth the detour. If you're planning a Southwest loop, this episode is full of practical tips and fun ideas to help you make the most of your adventure.Submit Your Summer Roadtrip Series Story HEREFacebook Group | Support the Show: Buy Us A CoffeeSponsors For This Episode30% off the CardPointers subscription!Find Us On InstagramMary Ellen | JoAffiliate LinksMary Ellen's Chase Sapphire Preferred LinkJo's Chase Sapphire Preferred LinkSign up for the Daily Drop NewsletterCredit Card Affiliate LinksThe above link includes referrals for almost all travel cards (AMEX, CapitalOne, co-branded cards)If you need Chase links please reach out! We would be happy to send you our personal referral links or the Daily Drop newsletter link that will allow you to access our affiliate links.We receive a small commission when you use our links. This is an amazing way to show your support for the show at no cost to you ❤️