

Emma & Tom Talk Teaching
Emma O'Dubhchair & Tom Breeze
We’re Emma (PGCE Secondary Drama) and Tom (PGCE Secondary Music) from Cardiff Metropolitan University. Welcome to our podcast, in which we muse about the joys of working with student teachers, the expressive arts, research, and teaching in general. Expect deep discussions, topical debates, celebrations of great practice, and things to steal for your own lessons!
Our primary audience is student teachers and early-career teachers, but we hope there's something here for everyone who's involved in the world of education, whether you're new or experienced.
Most of our episodes involve a main discussion (often with one or more guests), and two regular slots: something interesting and something to try. And when we hit the holidays, we bring out some weird and wonderful talking points from the internet and just have a chat.
Podcast artwork by Beth Blandford (@blandoodles on Facebook and Instagram)
Music by Cameron Stewart
Our primary audience is student teachers and early-career teachers, but we hope there's something here for everyone who's involved in the world of education, whether you're new or experienced.
Most of our episodes involve a main discussion (often with one or more guests), and two regular slots: something interesting and something to try. And when we hit the holidays, we bring out some weird and wonderful talking points from the internet and just have a chat.
Podcast artwork by Beth Blandford (@blandoodles on Facebook and Instagram)
Music by Cameron Stewart
Episodes
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Mar 12, 2021 • 29min
PGCE Research Bites 1: Supporting pupils with ADHD in the blended learning environment with Ellis Seddon
Welcome to the first in a new podcast venture! From the team behind Emma and Tom Talk Teaching we present PGCE Research Bites!Every year our PGCE students produce high-quality research work that informs their own philosophy and practice, and benefits the schools they work with. We've decided to make use of the 'in between' Fridays to share some of the very best of that work with you.We've got one PGCE student each time, who has 30 minutes to talk through their work and what they found. You'll hear details about the academic literature they discovered, the conclusions they drew from it, and the recommendations they came up with for their own practice and their placement school.This week, Ellis Seddon from PGCE Secondary Religious Education talks about the work she did to better understand how to support pupils with ADHD while working in a blended learning environment. With Ellis's kind permission, you can click here to take a look at the visual summary of her research!Ellis's six pieces of academic literature that she discussed in detail are below.We'll be back with a regular podcast episode next week, and PGCE Research Bites will be back in a fortnight!Halverson, L.R. and Graham, C.R., (2019). Learner Engagement in Blended Learning Environment: A Conceptual Framework. Online Learning [online] 23(2). Available from: <https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1218398.pdf> [accessed 22nd December 2020], pp.145-178.Morsink, S., Sonuga-Barke, E., Mies, G., Glorie, N., Lemiere, J., Van der Oord, S and Danckaerts, M., (2017). What motivates individuals with ADHD? A qualitative analysis from the adolescent’s point of view. European Child & Adolescent Pyschiatry¸[online] 26(8). Available from: <https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28233072/> [accessed 22nd December 2020], pp.923-932.Guderjahn, L., Gold, A., Stadler, G. and Gawrilow, C., (2013). Self-regulation strategies support children with ADHD to overcome symptom-related behaviour in the classroom. ADHD Attention Deficit and Hyperactivity Disorders [online] 5(4). Available from: <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/256985255> pp.397-407.Martin, A.J., (2013). Improving the Achievement, Motivation, and Engagement of Students with ADHD: The Role of Personal Best Goals and Other Growth-Based Approaches. Australian Journey of Guidance and Counselling [online] 23(1). Available from: <https://www.doe.virginia.gov/support/school-psychology-services/professional-development/2016/resources/adhd_article.pdf> [accessed 22nd December 2020], pp. 143-155.Driggs, C. and Brillante, J., (2020). Culture of Attention and Engagement. In: Lemov, D. ed. Teaching in the Online Classroom: Surviving and Thriving in the New Normal. Hoboken: Jossey-Bass, pp. 57-80.Cross, S., (2019). Using VLEs to Offer Higher Education Students Choice and Differentiation in Learning Activities: Micro-Pathway Learning Design Implementation and Opportunities. In: Orngreen, R., Buhl, M., Meyer, B. 18th European Conference on e-Learning (ECEL 2019). Copenhagen, 7-8 November. Sonning Common: Academic Conferences and Publishing International Limited, pp. 137-144.

Mar 5, 2021 • 34min
Tackling the Gender Gap in Mathematics with Cameron Stewart
Our guest today is Cameron Stewart, who runs the PGCE secondary mathematics programme here at Cardiff Met. He's come to talk to us about research he's carried out into strategies for closing the gender gap in mathematics. Maths is a subject that can sometimes feel like it needs an image makeover - why, we ask Cameron, is it so socially acceptable to say you're bad at it?! And how do we try and dispel the genuine fear that very intelligent people often experience when faced with maths?Cameron's got a number of practical strategies for us, and outlines his thoughts about the subject more widely. For anyone who wants more maths content, there's a big shoutout to the Mr Barton Maths podcast and his other online resources.We hope you enjoy the discussion, and even if you're not a maths specialist, there's plenty here to get you thinking about gender differences and how to create the right ethos in your classroom.And if you want to experience Cameron's musical side, you can find his band, Session, at www.sessionuk.com, on Twitter @sessionuk and on Instagram @Session.UK! -----------------------Recorded remotely on 11th January 2021

Feb 19, 2021 • 51min
Threshold Concepts with Dr Fiona Chambers, Dr David Aldous and Dr Anna Bryant
For this episode we welcome three special guests to our podcast! Dr Fiona Chambers is the head of the School of Education at University College Cork, and she has co-authored a book with our very own Dr Anna Bryant and Dr David Aldous. The book, entitled Threshold Concepts in Physical Education covers an enormous amount of fascinating ground, and isn't just for PE specialists. With curriculum design a hot topic, and many of us revisiting some of our most fundamental assumptions about our subject disciplines, this book is a timely addition to anyone's reading list.In the course of our discussion, Fiona, Anna and David explain what threshold concepts are, and what we mean by a design thinking approach. The book itself outlines a collaboration between the three authors and a number of school practitioners.Finally, with three guests, we've got a bumper crop of wellbeing tips, interesting things and ideas to try!The book is Chambers, F. C, Aldous, D. & Bryant, A. (2020) Threshold Concepts in Physical Education: A Design Thinking Approach. London: Routledge. -----------------------Recorded remotely on 18th January 2021

Feb 5, 2021 • 51min
Health and Wellbeing in the Curriculum with Fiona Heath-Diffey
It's always good when a previous podcast guest comes back for more, so we're delighted to welcome Fiona Heath-Diffey back to our studio! Fiona is the programme leader for PGCE Secondary PE here at Cardiff Met, and you may remember her from our interesting discussion about physical literacy way back in season 1.Fiona's back to talk about the new Health and Wellbeing Area of Learning and Experience in the new curriculum for Wales, and where the subject domain of PE fits in that much bigger and more complex picture.Whether you're listening from Wales or not, there's loads to take away from this discussion about the interface between physical education and wellbeing more generally, and how schools can join the dots to give our pupils the best chance of being healthy, confident individuals with a positive relationship with their physical and mental selves.The document Emma mentions (The Journey to 2022) is here: https://hwb.gov.wales/api/storage/cbe5e2c9-16cf-4eb7-87a1-c1a64fc598d8/the-journey-to-2022.pdf...and you can find the Health and Wellbeing curriculum documents from the new curriculum for Wales here: https://hwb.gov.wales/curriculum-for-wales/health-and-well-being/ ----------Recorded at Cardiff Metropolitan University's Cyncoed Campus, and remotely, on 7th December 2020

Jan 22, 2021 • 53min
Pupils Experiencing Homelessness and Multiple Complex Needs with Colette Carter and Lee Demetriou from Shelter
This week we've cast our net outside the world of schools to speak to two peer mentors from the homelessness charity, Shelter. Thanks to loyal friend of the podcast Becky Brynolf, we've got an interview with Colette Carter and Lee Demetriou, who are peer mentors with lived experience of homelessness and multiple complex needs.
We wanted to speak to Colette and Lee about their experiences of education, and their thoughts about how teachers can approach pupils who experience homelessness and other complex needs.
What follows is a powerful discussion, and you may find some of the content upsetting. Lee and Colette were keen to emphasise that they were happy for us to use all the content, and we hope it illustrates the need to approach our pupils as humans first and foremost.
If you'd like to hear more from Colette and Lee, the Shelter podcast Challenging is available on all good podcast platforms. If you'd like to find out more about the work of Shelter, you can visit their website. And if you're concerned about a pupil, remember that you have colleagues who can support you - and if you're a student teacher that includes your university staff.
We'll be back in two weeks!
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Recorded at Cardiff Metropolitan University's Cyncoed campus and remotely on 16th September 2020

Jan 8, 2021 • 36min
Supporting Quiet, Shy and Anxious Children with Dr Susan Davis and Dr Rhiannon Packer
So here we are, the newly regenerated version of the PGCE Podcast!We're now known as Emma and Tom Talk Teaching, and hope this will encourage more serving teachers to listen to us and realise that we're here for educators of all types! Hope you enjoy the snazzy new artwork and remixed podcast theme music too.For this first episode of 2021, we're talking to two colleagues from Cardiff Met who specialise in supporting quiet, shy and anxious children in the classroom. Dr Susan Davis and Dr Rhiannon Packer tell us about a gloriously simple intervention that pays dividends with these children, and gives us an insight into how we can help them feel comfortable and safe in the learning environment.The book reviews this episode are:Criado-Perez, C (2020) Invisible Women. London: VintageVan Ness, J (2020) Over the Top. London: Simon and Schuster Also, Rhiannon has a book out around about now! It's All Change! Best Practice for Educational Transitions, and it's published by Critical Publishing. Congratulations, Rhiannon! ----------Recorded at Cardiff Metropolitan University's Cyncoed Campus and remotely on 10th November 2020

Dec 25, 2020 • 1h 17min
Christmas Special 2020!
Merry Christmas! In a quirk of the release schedule, this one's coming out on the big day itself, so we hope you enjoy the traditional spectacle of two lecturers in the last stages of complete exhaustion, wittering on about some random things that seemed interesting or amusing at the time.We've got it all this year: from a pair of academic papers to a humorous twitter account; from book quotes to music. There are plenty of nods to the big story of 2020, the Covid-19 pandemic that changed the course of all our lives. But there are some tenuous links to education, plus some big news about the podcast for 2021.We hope you've enjoyed our many and varied offerings this year, and there are plenty of interesting conversations already in the can for the rest of this season. Please do spread the word about the podcast, and do drop us a review on your favoured podcast platform if you get a moment.Have a wonderful break, and we'll be back in January 2021 with a fresh new look. Thanks for listening and merry Christmas!PS... if you want to see the video version of the out-takes that Tom shared towards the end, go here (sorry, Emma!): https://youtu.be/gvWcyiAJgiE Best wishes fromEmma and Tom --------------------Recorded in studio C2.05 at Cardiff Metropolitan University's Cyncoed Campus on 17th December 2020

Dec 11, 2020 • 53min
Daisy Christodoulou's Teachers vs. Tech: A Book Review
It's high time for another book review, and our podcast pair have reached for the latest work by Daisy Christodoulou. Tom still lives in a safe house under an assumed identity after being less than effusive about the famous Seven Myths About Education a while back, so here's hoping he can redeem himself with some much happier thoughts about Teachers vs. Tech, an amazingly timely book given the global pandemic that ensued shortly after its publication.With help from some audio extracts from the famous Cardiff Met ITE staff book club, Emma and Tom explore some of the issues raised by Christodoulou as she presents a thought-provoking look at the vexed question of where education and technology could be a marriage made in heaven, and where the pitfalls lie for those who are too wedded to the shiny toys.Our short slots all come from a single article - The Binge Breaker, published in the Atlantic. Check it out here: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/11/the-binge-breaker/501122/Meanwhile, Tom's additional wellbeing tip is to ban all power tools from campus, as yet another recording is disrupted by the sound of distant pressure-washing by the seemingly ever-present hordes of people who are drawn to fire up their machinery as soon as a microphone is switched on. Check out Tom's possibly violent forthcoming publication Lecturers vs Power Tools, available soon. --------------------Recorded in studio C2.05 at Cardiff Metropolitan University's Cyncoed Campus on 22nd September 2020

Nov 27, 2020 • 34min
Teaching in a Multicultural Classroom with Rachael Morgan-Jones
It's time for another addition to our new strand of episodes loosely entitled 'ethics in teaching', and for this we've called upon the expertise of Rachael Morgan-Jones. Rachael has had a very successful career teaching music in schools where an enormous number of cultures, languages, faiths and backgrounds come together. She's here to argue that there are exciting opportunities to make a difference and broaden our own minds as teachers, and gives us some specific examples of how this can work in her specialist subject.We hope Rachael's specific experience serves as a great stimulus for all of us from our different subject specialisms to look at how we work with the many different cultures and backgrounds that our pupils bring to the classroom.See you in a fortnight, and huge thanks again to Rachael for her time and expertise! ----------Recorded in studio C2.05 at Cardiff Metropolitan University's Cyncoed Campus and remotely on 24th September 2020

Nov 13, 2020 • 43min
Reflective Practice with Professor Brendan Cropley
This week we've got a guest from our friends at the University of South Wales - it's Professor Brendan Cropley, who is a professor of sport coaching. The world of elite sports has plenty to tell those of us in education about reflecting on our performance, so we asked Brendan to join us on the line to chat about his work.Brendan has a wealth of down-to-earth advice for any of us engaged in reflection, whether as an experienced teacher or someone who's new to the profession. We hope you'll find plenty to inspire and motivate you to take a step back from your practice in order to make those all-important steps forward.As ever, our short slots provide us with some thought-provoking take-aways, including Brendan's secret musical talents, and a book review from the front line of the NHS.Join us in a fortnight for more! ----------Recorded in studio C2.05 at Cardiff Metropolitan University's Cyncoed Campus (with remote guest) on 7th October 2020