

Remake
Eran Dror
Remake is a podcast about Design, Systems, and Society. And I'm Eran Dror, a product designer and researcher of eastern religions. In each episode I interview someone who’s trying to change our lives for the better in some meaningful way, whether through a new product, new venture, or new way of looking at the world, and I try to understand how they came to it, what makes them tick, and what we all can learn from them.
I truly believe Design is strategic, that it goes to the core, that it's at the root of what it means to be human. In this show we explore an expansive view of design, and cover Systems Thinking, Social Innovation, Secular spirituality, and the future.
I truly believe Design is strategic, that it goes to the core, that it's at the root of what it means to be human. In this show we explore an expansive view of design, and cover Systems Thinking, Social Innovation, Secular spirituality, and the future.
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Sep 15, 2022 • 57min
027. BJ Miller: Better Care, in Life and Death
TODAY'S GUEST BJ Miller is an American physician, author, and speaker. He is a practicing hospice and palliative medicine physician, and is best known for his 2015 TED Talk, "What Really Matters at the End of Life". BJ, who served as an executive director of San Francisco's Zen Hospice Project, has been on the teaching faculty at UCSF School of Medicine since 2017, and is the subject of the Netflix Academy Award nominated short documentary, End Game. His book, A Beginner's Guide to the End, which he co-authored with Shoshana Berger, is an unflinching, compassionate, and intensely pragmatic guide to the end of life. Today, BJ sees patients and caregivers through his online palliative care service, Mettle Health. EPISODE SUMMARY In this conversation we talk about: Growing up with a mother who lived with polio, and how that influenced his thinking. A severe accident early it life, which forced him to re-form his identity and informed the rest of his journey. His path in Palliative care - and the insight that the health establishment is designed to treat diseases, not humans. His insights into the meaning and wisdom one can find at the end of life. It's been a rare pleasure to talk to someone like BJ, who is someone who steps into realms of experience most of us avoid at all costs, and to hear the precious types of wisdom he brings with him from there. This episode, I think, is also a great introduction to the world of palliative medicine, which may be the first time the medical establishment put the patient's experience, quality of life, and constructed meeting at the heart of care, treating people as opposed to diseases. BJ and I discuss the ways the healthcare system and hospital system are badly designed, and what can be done about it. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS [4:32] Life During Covid [7:23] Early Childhood Spirituality [12:30] An Accident and an Identity Crisis [18:25] The Significance of a Snowball [22:01] Palliative Care and the Dynamic Between Human Beings [29:51] A Badly Designed Healthcare System [32:20] Necessary vs Unnecessary Suffering [35:13] Lessons in Death [39:51] Wildness and Wonderment [47:54] A Beginner's Guide to the End [53:36] A Sermon on Life and Death EPISODE LINKS BJ's Links 🌍 Zen Hospice Project 🌍 Mettle Health 📘 A Beginner's Guide to the End: Practical Advice for Living Life and Facing Death 🎤 TED Talk 🍿 End Game 💼 LinkedIn: LinkedIn Profile 📣 Twitter: @bjmillermd 📺 YouTube Channel ABOUT US Remake Podcast: Visit us: RemakePod.org 🙏🏻 Rate the show on iTunes 🙏🏻 Support us! Join the Podcast Member community 💌 Share your thoughts: podcast@remakelabs.com 👉 Listen or Subscribe to the show: Apple Podcasts・Google Podcasts・RadioPublic・Overcast・Stitcher・PocketCasts・Castro・SoundCloud・Spotify・YouTube・Deezer Remake Labs: RemakeLabs.com・Medium・LinkedIn・Community・Twitter・Facebook・Instagram Eran Dror: EranDror.com・LinkedIn・Twitter・Medium

Sep 8, 2022 • 56min
060. Susie Wise: Belonging by Design
TODAY'S GUEST Susie Wise is a designer, educator, and author, whose wonderful book Design for Belonging: How to Build Inclusion and Collaboration in Your Communities came out in April 2022 as part of the new Stanford d.school book series on core design skills. She teaches at the Stanford d.school and coaches leaders in innovation practices and liberatory design. EPISODE SUMMARY In this conversation we talk about: The topic of belonging and how to foster it. The need for belonging in troubling times. What being bored at school taught Susie about herself and the world. How she moved from politics to design and got involved with the Stanford d.school. Her work in the K12 lab at d.school, which combined design thinking with the Montessori education system. Moving from design thinking and education, to liberatory design and design for belonging. What is belonging? What does it look and feel like? Why does it matter? What is othering, and how does it work? The importance of ritual, storytelling, and spaces, and crafting belonging. As someone who's researched religion through a designer's eye, I love the emphasis on ritual, spaces, and storytelling, and crafting belonging. All of these areas, which religions are famously good at utilizing, whereas secular environments often fail entirely to appreciate. But what if a school made you feel as welcome and as part of the community as the best churches? What if the rituals we crafted and the stories we told included every one of us? Since this interview with Susie, I've already interviewed a few of her co-authors in the d.school new book series, which will be coming out in the next few weeks. This conversation is one of a dozen or so weekly conversations we already have lined up for you with thinkers, designers, makers, authors, entrepreneurs, and activists who are working to change our world for the better. So follow this podcast on your favorite podcast app, or head over to RemakePod.org to subscribe. And now, let's jump right in with Susie Wise. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS [5:08] Life in the Present [11:57] Childhood Projects [13:56] A Path to Design [18:05] The Birth of the K12 Lab [20:26] The Montessori System [23:16] Belonging and Equity [27:53] Design for Belonging [29:51] What is Belonging? [31:29] Seeing Belonging [36:33] Othering and Systemic Othering [43:25] The Assumption Storm [46:49] Shaping Belonging with Rituals [50:53] Shaping Belonging with Spaces [54:25] A Short Sermon EPISODE LINKS Susie's Links 🌎 Design for Belonging 📘 Design for Belonging: How to Build Inclusion and Collaboration in Your Communities 🏫 Stanford University 🏫 Stanford d.school 🏫 K12 Lab - Stanford d.school 🏫 Urban Montessori Charter School 📷 Instagram: Instagram Profile 💼 LinkedIn: LinkedIn Profile 📣 Twitter: @susiewise Other Links 🌎 National Equity Project 🏫 Othering & Belonging Institute 🎨 Rose Jaffe Website 📕 Braving the Wilderness: The Quest for True Belonging and the Courage to Stand Alone by Brené Brown 🌎 john a. powell Website 🌎 Christine Wong Yap Website 🌎 Google 📁 Dropbox 🎤 TED Talk - Alain de Botton ABOUT US Remake Podcast: Visit us: RemakePod.org 🙏🏻 Rate the show on iTunes 🙏🏻 Support us! Join the Podcast Member community 💌 Share your thoughts: podcast@remakelabs.com 👉 Listen or Subscribe to the show: Apple Podcasts・Google Podcasts・RadioPublic・Overcast・Stitcher・PocketCasts・Castro・SoundCloud・Spotify・YouTube・Deezer Remake Labs: RemakeLabs.com・Medium・LinkedIn・Community・Twitter・Facebook・Instagram Eran Dror: EranDror.com・LinkedIn・Twitter・Medium

Sep 1, 2022 • 1h 3min
059. Eyal Press: Dirty Work
TODAY'S GUEST Eyal Press is a regular contributor to The New Yorker and The New York Times. His most recent book is Dirty Work: Essential Jobs and the Hidden Toll of Inequality in America, which won the 2022 Hillman Prize and was named a New York Times Notable book. He's also the host of the podcast Primary Sources. We spoke in mid-June 2022, and I was excited to talk to Eyal after getting a hold of his book, Dirty Work, which covers the ethically questionable, psychologically damaging work society delegates to marginalized, far away, or hidden workers. An example of this would be killer drone operators who sit in a safe command center in the US while killing people remotely underground in the Middle East, and the complexities of the systems we create to keep those jobs hidden and far away and removed from the so-called "good people". I found the conversation fascinating and challenging. EPISODE SUMMARY In this conversation we talk about: Him growing up as the son and grandson of Holocaust survivors and the perspective it gave him. The rarity of people who take a moral stand in the face of bad consequences. What Everett Hughes had to say about the people who keep themselves clean and good while knowingly ignoring horrors done in their name. The character of dirty work and the systemic structures that make it persist. We then dive into particular examples, such as prison systems in the US, drone warfare as an imagined way to clean up war, and things that Americans consume that have dirty work behind them. Moral injury and how unethical jobs can over time create real injury, psychological harm to the people performing them. The invisibility of dirty work. What can we do to clean up dirty work? And we dive into the Israeli occupation of Palestine and the extent to which Israeli society is delegating the dirty work of occupation to soldiers and military police, and the ways in which civil organizations like Breaking the Silence are trying to counteract that tendency. It's impossible to talk to Eyal and not think about the places where I might be exporting unpleasant or unethical work to invisible hands while still benefiting from their work. And it's been useful to think about what I can do in these situations. Eyal provided a valuable and challenging framework to think about the world we live in and what's truly necessary to make it better — not only keep our own hands clean, but raising awareness and reforming systems that fund and perpetuate morally injurious work out of the site of so-called "good people". This conversation is one of a dozen or so weekly conversations we already have lined up for you with thinkers, authors, scientists, designers, makers, and entrepreneurs who are working to change our world for the better. So follow this podcast on your favorite podcast app, or head over to RemakePod.org to subscribe. And now, let's jump right in with Eyal Press. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS [4:34] Life in the Present [5:44] Family History Osmosis [7:16] Beautiful Souls [12:05] The Story of Everett Hughes [17:48] The Structure of Dirty Work [29:45] Moral Injury [38:49] The Hidden Nature of Dirty Jobs [42:28] Jobs of Last Resort [44:38] The Good People [50:13] Breaking the Silence [56:49] The Dirty Work in Tech [1:00:20] A Short Sermon EPISODE LINKS Eyal's Links 🌎 Eyal Press Website 📘 Dirty Work: Essential Jobs and the Hidden Toll of Inequality in America 📘 Beautiful Souls: Saying No, Breaking Ranks, and Heeding the Voice of Conscience in Dark Times 📘 Absolute Convictions: My Father, a City, and the Conflict that Divided America 📝 The New Yorker - Eyal Press Latest Articles 🎧 Primary Sources Podcast 📣 Twitter: @EyalPress Other Links 📝 Good People and Dirty Work by Everett C. Hughes 🐷 Smithfield Foods 🐔 Sanderson Farms 🧚 Disneyland 🏫 University of Cambridge 🏫 Harvard University 🛂 ICE | U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement 📕 No Name in the Street by James Baldwin 🪖 Breaking the Silence 🌎 Google 📦 Amazon 🌎 Facebook 🎤 TED Talk - Alain de Botton ABOUT US Remake Podcast: Visit us: RemakePod.org 🙏🏻 Rate the show on iTunes 🙏🏻 Support us! Join the Podcast Member community 💌 Share your thoughts: podcast@remakelabs.com 👉 Listen or Subscribe to the show: Apple Podcasts・Google Podcasts・RadioPublic・Overcast・Stitcher・PocketCasts・Castro・SoundCloud・Spotify・YouTube・Deezer Remake Labs: RemakeLabs.com・Medium・LinkedIn・Community・Twitter・Facebook・Instagram Eran Dror: EranDror.com・LinkedIn・Twitter・Medium

Aug 25, 2022 • 54min
058. Richard Bartlett: Decentralized by Design
TODAY'S GUEST Today, I'm speaking to Richard D. Bartlett, aka Rich Decibels. During the Occupy movement in 2011, Rich caught a glimpse of a different way of being together — more compassionate, more intelligent, more creative, inclusive, and animating than he'd experienced as a student worker or citizen up to that point. Since then, he's been on a mission. In 2012 he co-founded Loomio, a digital tool for deliberation and decision-making in groups of 3-300 people. In 2016 he co-founded The Hum, a management consultancy for organizations without managers. The Hum has recently published an online training course that shares what they know about working in highly decentralized organizations. Rich is also a Director and longstanding member of Enspiral — a network of people supporting each other to grow up and to get paid for doing meaningful work. Rich has a daily writing practice. He writes about how people work together, at any scale, from relationships, to organizations, to social change, and he's prolific on Twitter and on Medium. His fascinating book (currently in beta) is called Patterns for Decentralized Organizing and can be downloaded from Leanpub. EPISODE SUMMARY In this conversation we talk about: How growing up in a strict fundamentalist Christian upbringing, and decoupling from that, shaped his outlook. His complex relationship with atheism and religion today. How he discovered love and solidarity in activism. Technologies of organizing. Forming decentralized decision-making processes. Nihilism in the face of dysfunction as a form of cowardice. Loomio, and collective decision-making software. Status and hierarchy. Shifting culture through fermentation. And the concept of stewardship. We spoke in mid-June 2022, and I was excited to talk to Rich since he's been introduced to me by Daniel Thorson, whom I interviewed here in episode 10. I've been following his writing on Twitter and find the idea of decentralized work and collaboration fascinating, exciting, and challenging. It's perhaps the greatest question of our time: now that we're all connected and have incredible tools of self-organization, how can we make better decisions together? How can we outcompete centralized organizations? And how can we benefit from the wonderful richness of so many brains without descending into chaos, nihilism and mob rule? This conversation is one of a dozen or so weekly conversations that we already have lined up for you with thinkers, designers, makers, authors, entrepreneurs, and activists who are working to change our world for the better. So follow this podcast on your favorite podcast app, or head over to RemakePod.org to subscribe. And now let's jump right in with Richard D. Bartlett. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS [5:23] Life in the Present [8:07] Early Childhood Community [10:33] A Complex Religious Journey [18:37] The Occupy Movement [23:45] A Transformational Insight [28:21] Cowardice and Courage [30:40] Membership Groups [35:16] Intersecting Communities [41:06] Status and Hierarchy [44:35] Fermenting the Right Culture [48:21] The Stewardship System [51:58] A Short Sermon EPISODE LINKS Richard's Links 🌎 Richard D. Bartlett Website 🌎 Loomio 🌎 The Hum 🌎 Enspiral 📘 Patterns for Decentralised Organising 🎤 TED Talk 💼 LinkedIn: LinkedIn Profile 📣 Twitter: @RichDecibels 📺 YouTube Channel Other Links 🎧 Daniel Thorson Interview 🌎 Facebook 📣 Twitter 🏜️ Burning Man 🏜️ Midburn 🎤 TED Talk - Alain de Botton ABOUT US Remake Podcast: Visit us: RemakePod.org 🙏🏻 Rate the show on iTunes 🙏🏻 Support us! Join the Podcast Member community 💌 Share your thoughts: podcast@remakelabs.com 👉 Listen or Subscribe to the show: Apple Podcasts・Google Podcasts・RadioPublic・Overcast・Stitcher・PocketCasts・Castro・SoundCloud・Spotify・YouTube・Deezer Remake Labs: RemakeLabs.com・Medium・LinkedIn・Community・Twitter・Facebook・Instagram Eran Dror: EranDror.com・LinkedIn・Twitter・Medium

Aug 18, 2022 • 48min
057. Greg Hoffman: Emotion by Design
TODAY'S GUEST Greg Hoffman is Nike's former Chief Marketing Officer, a global brand leader, advisor, and speaker, and the author of Emotion by Design: Creative Leadership Lessons From a Life at Nike. In his book, Greg shares lessons and stories on the power of creativity drawn from almost three decades of experience within the company. It's a celebration of creativity and a call-to-arms for brand-builders to rediscover the human element that makes consumer bonds. EPISODE SUMMARY In this conversation we talk about: How he developed his love of art and design sensibility. Growing up in branding inside of Nike, until eventually becoming Chief Marketing Officer. The importance of emotion and storytelling. On authenticity, and why chasing cool is a bad idea. On creativity as a team sport. And on the importance of courage. We talked in mid-June 2022 and I was looking forward to talking to Greg because Nike clearly is doing some amazing work around branding and brand values, and is able again and again to create authentic connections at scale. I'm a latecomer to the world of branding. For much of my life, I was an avid product person and saw the brand as an afterthought. It's only in recent years that I understood the extent to which our lives, our thinking, and our decisions are driven by the stories we tell, and the emotional associations we make. The art of doing that well is branding. And it can be used for good or evil, and is just as important in non-profits and political organizations as it is in business. I really enjoyed the stories of some of Nike's iconic campaigns. Digging in to find compelling ways to tell stories that illustrate and support your values in a real way, feels like a very human way of crafting a brand that people can believe in. I've counted the episodes that we already have recorded and edited for you, and it's currently eight episodes. There are famous designers like Vicki Tan and John Maeda, authors like Susie Wise and Ashish Goel, and the most connected man in the world, Chris Dancy, among them. We release conversations weekly with thinkers, designers, makers, authors, entrepreneurs, and activists who are working to change our world for the better. So follow this podcast on your favorite podcast app, or head over to RemakePod.org to subscribe. And now, let's jump right in with Greg Hoffman. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS [4:39] Life in the Present [5:38] Early Childhood Driving Forces [7:29] An Age of Color Blindness [9:18] The Power of Drawing [12:52] Joining Nike [16:27] What is Branding? [18:12] The Importance of Emotions [23:57] Crafting Authenticity [32:44] Developing a Culture of Risk-Taking [35:19] Find Your Greatness [38:06] Believe in Something [41:04] Designing Dreams [45:52] A Short Sermon EPISODE LINKS Greg's Links 👟 Nike 📘 Emotion by Design: Creative Leadership Lessons From a Life at Nike 🌎 The Modern Arena 🏫 Minneapolis College of Art and Design 🏫 Lundquist College of Business - University of Oregon 🎤 "Capturing Imagination Through Brand Storytelling" Talk 💼 LinkedIn: LinkedIn Profile 📣 Twitter: @g_hoffm Other Links 🌎 Google 🌎 Facebook ☕ Nespresso 👟 Nike Air Force 1 Apple 🥤 Kendall Jenner Pepsi Commercial 🏀 Michael Jordan "Failure" Commercial 📺 Nike "Find Your Greatness" Commercial 🏈 Nike "Believe in Something" Commercial 🏈 Nike Stand Up Speak Up Campaign 📺 Nike Equality Campaign 🤺 Nike Pro Hijab 2.0 🎤 TED Talk - Alain de Botton ABOUT US Remake Podcast: Visit us: RemakePod.org 🙏🏻 Rate the show on iTunes 🙏🏻 Support us! Join the Podcast Member community 💌 Share your thoughts: podcast@remakelabs.com 👉 Listen or Subscribe to the show: Apple Podcasts・Google Podcasts・RadioPublic・Overcast・Stitcher・PocketCasts・Castro・SoundCloud・Spotify・YouTube・Deezer Remake Labs: RemakeLabs.com・Medium・LinkedIn・Community・Twitter・Facebook・Instagram Eran Dror: EranDror.com・LinkedIn・Twitter・Medium

Aug 11, 2022 • 1h 8min
056. John-Paul Flintoff: Creativity and Connection
TODAY'S GUEST John-Paul Flintoff is a writer, performer, and illustrator, and the author of books like How to Change the World and A Modest Book About How to Make an Adequate Speech. He worked for 15 years as a writer and associate editor on the Financial Times, The Sunday Times, and other papers in magazines, and has been involved with The School of Life in London as a lecturer and writer. Today, he runs a subscription service called Adequate Projects, which provides moral support and a bit of financial freedom in return for discounts and exclusive access. EPISODE SUMMARY In this conversation we talk about: The importance of creativity and how he learned it as a child. His attraction to poetry and why he became a journalist. His book, How to Change the World, and the burden it placed on him later in life. His involvement with The School of Life. What learning improv taught him about creativity and about life. His work on public speaking and his book on the subject. And how tragedy reshaped his life and led him on a search for more resilient happiness. We spoke in early June 2022, and I was excited to talk to John-Paul because of his involvement with so many things I care about, from The School of Life, to mindful use of technology, to improv and creativity, to the art of writing. I left this conversation feeling inspired by John-Paul's honesty, his never-ending search for expression, creativity, and happiness, and the wisdom with which he connects with the people around him. I think most of our listeners will feel the same. This conversation is one of many weekly conversations we already have lined up for you with thinkers, designers, makers, authors, and entrepreneurs who are working to change our world for the better. So follow this podcast on your favorite podcast app, or head over to RemakePod.org to subscribe. And now let's jump right in with John-Paul Flintoff. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS [3:44] Life in the Present [11:04] Childhood Creativity [16:18] A Journey to Journalism [19:45] A Memorable Event [23:39] From Journalist to Author [28:30] The School of Life [31:44] Change the World [35:42] Beauty and Fun [39:13] Effective Tools for Change [47:15] The Power of Improv [49:44] The Rejection Game [52:36] The Biggest Takeaways [55:38] A Religious Journey [1:05:25] A Short Sermon EPISODE LINKS John-Paul's Links 🌍 John-Paul Flintoff Website 🏫 Holland Park School 📘 Comp - A Survivor's Tale 📘 How to Change the World 📘 A Modest Book About How to Make an Adequate Speech 📘 Psalms for the City: Original poetry for the places we call home 📰 Financial Times 📰 The Sunday Times 🏫 The School of Life 🎤 TED Talk - How to Change the World 🎤 TED Talk - Conversations That Change Life 💼 LinkedIn: LinkedIn Profile 📣 Twitter: @jpflintoff 📺 YouTube Channel Other Links 📓 Moleskine 📝 reMarkable 📱 iPad 🎨 Procreate ✝️ The Bible 📕 Impro: Improvisation and the Theatre by Keith Johnstone 📕 There Is No God and He Is Always with You: A Search for God in Odd Places by Brad Warner ✍️ Medium 🎤 TED Talk - Alain de Botton ABOUT US Remake Podcast: Visit us: RemakePod.org 🙏🏻 Rate the show on iTunes 🙏🏻 Support us! Join the Podcast Member community 💌 Share your thoughts: podcast@remakelabs.com 👉 Listen or Subscribe to the show: Apple Podcasts・Google Podcasts・RadioPublic・Overcast・Stitcher・PocketCasts・Castro・SoundCloud・Spotify・YouTube・Deezer Remake Labs: RemakeLabs.com・Medium・LinkedIn・Community・Twitter・Facebook・Instagram Eran Dror: EranDror.com・LinkedIn・Twitter・Medium

Aug 4, 2022 • 1h 19min
016. Joe Macleod: Designing the End
TODAY'S GUEST Joe Macleod was Global Head of Design for the legendary Design agency and game studio UsTwo, and is a veteran with decades of experience across service, digital, and product sectors. In recent years, he became fascinated with the problem of designing good ending experiences and is the founder of what he calls “the world's first customer ending business”. It’s not what you think - no customers get killed in the process. Instead, Joe is focused on giving customers a positive, meaningful, and socially responsible end of relationship experience. His first book, titled Ends, is a look into the importance of thinking about offboarding - from sustainability and recycling, through data and privacy, to retiring old products and tools, and finds the roots of our collective repression of the end of cycle problem in our fear of death, and the rise of mass market capitalism. EPISODE SUMMARY In this conversation we discuss: [2:18] Covid situation in Stockholm. [5:41] Growing up in the UK as a child with dyslexia, developing a sense of independence. [9:55] Early involvement in graphics, very early HTML and digital design work, and interaction design. [13:13] Getting involved with Mobile early at Orange and Nokia. [15:02] Observing the rise and fall of Nokia. [16:57] Joining legendary digital agency UsTwo. [26:06] The Off-Boarding Problem. [32:11] Getting Interested in Endings. [38:18] The Western Avoidance of Death. [41:07] A Chance to Reflect. [46:18] The Move Away from Endings. [51:11] Why is it important? [58:19] The Narrative Importance of Ending. [59:18] The Ends Book, and the 2nd Book. [1:14:29] Why the Focus on Endings? EPISODE LINKS Joe's Links 🌍 Joe Macleod's Blog @ Medium 📔 Ends. The Book 🌍 AnEnd.com - The Business 📣 Twitter: @mrmacleod Other Things Discussed 🌍 UsTwo Agency ⛳️ Monument Valley Game 🌍 WAP - Wireless Application Protocol (1999) ABOUT US Remake Podcast: Visit us: RemakePod.org 🙏🏻 Rate the show on iTunes 🙏🏻 Support us! Join the Podcast Member community 💌 Share your thoughts: podcast@remakelabs.com 👉 Listen or Subscribe to the show: Apple Podcasts・Google Podcasts・RadioPublic・Overcast・Stitcher・PocketCasts・Castro・SoundCloud・Spotify・YouTube・Deezer Remake Labs: RemakeLabs.com・Medium・LinkedIn・Community・Twitter・Facebook・Instagram Eran Dror: EranDror.com・LinkedIn・Twitter・Medium

Jul 28, 2022 • 1h 20min
055. Tobias Rees: Transforming the Human
TODAY'S GUEST Dr. Tobias Rees is CEO of Transformations of the Human School, and was formerly the William Dawson Chair at McGill University and the Reid Hoffman Professor of Humanities at the Parsons School of Design. He is a Fellow of the Canadian Institute for Advanced Research and holds degrees in philosophy, anthropology, and neurobiology. In the early 2010s, he recognized that contemporary technology not only disrupts our historical established ways of thinking and doing, but also creates new ones: radically new possibilities that unfold beyond what we take for granted. This, he believes, is not only a sweeping event in the history of thought, but also a major opportunity; technology itself has become philosophical, and it has become possible to “do” philosophy by building and inventing new technologies. This led him on a path to building a new institution, dedicated to the interplay of philosophy, art, science, and engineering, and to the way they blur the lines between the human and nonhuman. EPISODE SUMMARY In this conversation we talk about: Growing up with no books and few words in a small peasant village in Southern Germany. The importance and uses of silence which stayed with him ever since. How he became interested in philosophy, and the big questions after his grandfather's death. Moving freely from philosophy to comparative religion to anthropology and art history. The happy accident that led him to studying neurobiology and learning to see himself as a brain. The importance of concepts in framing our day-to-day experience. What do terms like human and humanity mean? When were they introduced? How did they evolve? What is the relationship between nature, humans, and machines? His work with some of the largest technology companies who are building a future to bring philosophy and art into the room. Where does creativity lie with AI algorithms like DALL·E 2? And the need to always reexamine our assumptions about the world and our values. This conversation with Tobias is one of many weekly conversations we already have lined up for you with thinkers, designers, authors, makers, activists, and leaders who are working to change our world for the better. So follow this podcast on your favorite podcast app, or head over to RemakePod.org to subscribe. And now let’s jump right in, with Dr. Tobias Rees. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS [5:18] Life in the Present [7:00] Early Childhood Silence [13:44] An Educational Journey [22:49] The Importance of Concepts [32:04] A Period of Growth and Sadness [40:47] An Opening of Doors [44:55] The Term 'Human' [56:12] Anthropology of Machines [1:11:35] Merging Philosophy with Engineering [1:17:55] A Short Sermon EPISODE LINKS Tobias' Links 🏫 Transformations of the Human (ToftH) 🏫 Berggruen Institute 🏫 University of California, Berkeley 🏫 McGill University 🏫 Parsons School of Design | The New School 🏫 Canadian Institute for Advanced Research (CIFAR) 💼 LinkedIn: LinkedIn Profile 📣 Twitter: @tobias_rees Other Links 📕 The Apology of Socrates by Plato 🔬 Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory 👨💼 LinkedIn 🌎 Cloudera 💻 Microsoft 🏨 The Beverly Hills Hotel 💉 The Global HIV Vaccine Enterprise 🌎 Gates Foundation 🎗️ Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center 🏫 Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation 📕 Race and History by Claude Lévi-Strauss 🎧 Jay McClelland Interview 🤖 OpenAI 🤖 DALL·E 2 📷 Adobe Photoshop 🌎 Google 🌎 Facebook 🏫 Stanford University 🌎 X, the moonshot factory 🎤 TED Talk - Alain de Botton ABOUT US Remake Podcast: Visit us: RemakePod.org 🙏🏻 Rate the show on iTunes 🙏🏻 Support us! Join the Podcast Member community 💌 Share your thoughts: podcast@remakelabs.com 👉 Listen or Subscribe to the show: Apple Podcasts・Google Podcasts・RadioPublic・Overcast・Stitcher・PocketCasts・Castro・SoundCloud・Spotify・YouTube・Deezer Remake Labs: RemakeLabs.com・Medium・LinkedIn・Community・Twitter・Facebook・Instagram Eran Dror: EranDror.com・LinkedIn・Twitter・Medium

Jul 21, 2022 • 1h
018. Steve Krug: Designing For Clarity
TODAY'S GUEST Steve Krug is one of the founding fathers of User Experience and Usability Design, and a bestselling author of two foundational classics in the field: Don’t Make Me Think, his guide to Usability Design with over 600,000 copies in print today, and Rocket Surgery Made Easy, a friendly guide to Usability Testing. He based his writing on decades spent as a usability consultant for a wide variety of clients like Apple, Bloomberg.com, Lexus.com, NPR, and the International Monetary Fund, and continues to consult through his firm, Advanced Common Sense. EPISODE SUMMARY In this conversation we discuss: [2:45] Life during the Covid pandemic. [5:49] Being nice is better than being smart. [9:04] Being nice in politics. [12:58] Not replacing Mr. Wizard. [17:22] From writing to usability. [22:29] The story behind "Don't Make Me Think". [27:47] Steve's literary style. [31:55] The evolution of UX design. [37:33] Empathy as a pre-requisite for being a great UX expert. [46:28] Writing and hating it since 1980 - about the new book about writing. [52:44] Advice for writers. [55:42] A short sermon on UX. EPISODE LINKS Steve's Links 🌍 Homepage 📔 Don't Make Me Think 📔Rocket Surgery Made Easy 🎓 Steve Krug on Wikipedia 📣 Twitter: @skrug Other Links 🎓The Mr. Wizard TV show 🎓 Bill Nye the science guy on Wikipedia 📰 Boston College Student Newspaper 🌍 Jacob Nielsen's Profile at nngroup.com 🌍 The Roger Black Collection 📔 Made To Stick Book ABOUT US Remake Podcast: Visit us: RemakePod.org 🙏🏻 Rate the show on iTunes 🙏🏻 Support us! Join the Podcast Member community 💌 Share your thoughts: podcast@remakelabs.com 👉 Listen or Subscribe to the show: Apple Podcasts・Google Podcasts・RadioPublic・Overcast・Stitcher・PocketCasts・Castro・SoundCloud・Spotify・YouTube・Deezer Remake Labs: RemakeLabs.com・Medium・LinkedIn・Community・Twitter・Facebook・Instagram Eran Dror: EranDror.com・LinkedIn・Twitter・Medium

Jul 14, 2022 • 1h 20min
054. Jay McClelland: Networks That Learn
TODAY'S GUEST Jay McClelland is a Computational Cognitive Neuroscientist and one of the founding fathers of the field of neural networks and deep learning in the 1980s, which led directly to today's explosion in AI and machine learning algorithms that are transforming our lives. He is the Lucie Stern Professor at Stanford University, where he was formerly the chair of the psychology department, and is currently a Consulting Research Scientist at DeepMind, perhaps the leader in machine learning technologies today. Jay is best known for his work on statistical learning and parallel distributed processing, applying connectionist models (or neural networks) to explain cognitive phenomena such as spoken word recognition and visual word recognition. Today, he works on integrating language, memory, and visuospatial cognition in an integrated understanding system to capture human intelligence and enhance artificial intelligence, exploring how education and human-invented tools of thought can enhance human and machine intelligence. EPISODE SUMMARY In this conversation we talk about: Lessons from his youth, where he moved around the world as a child and interacted with different religions and backgrounds, which helped him understand that we are shaped by our contexts and experiences. His entry into cognitive psychology, and going beyond the laws of behavior into: Why do people behave the way they do? Building neural networks to model cognition. His world-changing PDP paper (Parallel Distributed Processing: Explorations in the Microstructure of Cognition), a paper that was published in 1986 and transformed this whole field, and directly led to more and more people embracing the connectionist model and neural networks. The fact and meaning of bi-directionality in neural networks. What does it mean that information can flow both ways in the same network structure? Generative models, and in this context, OpenAI's DALL-E 2 algorithm, which can create amazing illustrations and artworks — and should we credit generative or creative algorithms with artistry and give them credit for their art? Consciousness — does it extend beyond humans and is it something that we may be able to find someday in algorithms? Talking to Jay really reminded me of the best in mankind, that through curiosity, asking interesting questions, and constructing thought models and experiments, we can unlock such a subtle and fundamental thing like cognition and the connectionist model, which then unlocks all of this power for society at large. We now have this responsibility to reign in the worst of mankind in how we exploit, curate, and share in the benefits of this incredible power. This will be a running topic for us, AI in the future. We explore the power of design and human-centered thinking to create a better future for everyone. This conversation with Jay is one of many weekly conversations we already have lined up for you with leading authors, thinkers, designers, makers, scientists, and social entrepreneurs who are working to change our world for the better. So follow this podcast on your favorite podcast app, or head over to remakepod.org to subscribe. And now, let's jump right in with Jay McClelland. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS [7:28] Life in the Present [9:08] Early Childhood Perspectives [12:33] A Path to Psychology [22:16] Modeling Cognition [27:37] Neural Networks [35:16] The Significance of Bi-Directionality [40:21] Bistable Perception [43:55] The Truth of Mathematics [49:24] An Emergentist [55:17] Technology and AI [1:01:17] An Accumulation of Experience [1:07:20] On Consciousness [1:15:47] A Short Sermon EPISODE LINKS Jay's Links 🏫 Stanford University 🏫 Columbia University 🏫 University of Pennsylvania 🤖 DeepMind 📘 Parallel Distributed Processing, Vol. 1: Foundations by James L. Mcclelland and David E. Rumelhart 📘 Parallel Distributed Processing Vol. 2: Psychological and Biological Models by James L. Mcclelland and David E. Rumelhart 💼 LinkedIn: LinkedIn Profile 📣 Twitter: @JLMcCelland Other Links 🏫 Centre for the Study of Existential Risk 🏫 Future of Humanity Institute 🎵 Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again by Bob Dylan 🤖 DALL·E 2 📕 On Aggression by Konrad Lorenz 🎤 TED Talk - Alain de Botton ABOUT US Remake Podcast: Visit us: RemakePod.org 🙏🏻 Rate the show on iTunes 🙏🏻 Support us! Join the Podcast Member community 💌 Share your thoughts: podcast@remakelabs.com 👉 Listen or Subscribe to the show: Apple Podcasts・Google Podcasts・RadioPublic・Overcast・Stitcher・PocketCasts・Castro・SoundCloud・Spotify・YouTube・Deezer Remake Labs: RemakeLabs.com・Medium・LinkedIn・Community・Twitter・Facebook・Instagram Eran Dror: EranDror.com・LinkedIn・Twitter・Medium