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Jun 24, 2025 • 41min

Beyond the Will: Navigating Estate Planning with Heart and Purpose with Sarah Ecklein

This week David DeCelle, CEO of ModelFA, interviews Sarah Ecklein, owner of Trust and Honor, about her journey from cooking to becoming a professional fiduciary. Sarah discusses her work in end-of-life care, serving as a conservator, trustee, and agent for clients, particularly in complex cases that corporate trustees may avoid. She highlights the importance of proactive estate planning, noting that only one in three Americans have an estate plan. Sarah emphasizes the need for clear communication and understanding of estate documents, and shares her efforts to educate the public through her podcast, "The Legacy of Love." In this episode: Only 1 in 3 people in the United States have an estate plan Acts as a neutral third party for trust administration, conservatorship, and decision-making Move from a place of fear to a place of love when considering estate planning Changing family structures increase estate planning challenges Estate planning is not just about after-death distribution Connect with Sarah: Learn more at https://www.trustandhonor.co/ About the Model FA Podcast The Model FA podcast is a show for fiduciary financial advisors. In each episode, our host David DeCelle sits down with industry experts, strategic thinkers, and advisors to explore what it takes  to build a successful practice — and have an abundant life in the process. We believe in continuous learning, tactical advice, and strategies that work — no “gotchas” or BS. Join us to hear stories from successful financial advisors, get actionable ideas from experts, and re-discover your drive to build the practice of your dreams.  Did you like this conversation? Then leave us a rating and a review in whatever podcast player you use. We would love your feedback, and your ratings help us reach more advisors with ideas for growing their practices, attracting great clients, and achieving a better quality of life. While you are there, feel free to share your ideas about future podcast guests or topics you’d love to see covered.   Our Team: President of Model FA, David DeCelle  If you like this podcast, you will love our community! Join the Model FA Community on Facebook to connect with like-minded advisors and share the day-to-day challenges and wins of running a growing financial services firm.
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Jun 17, 2025 • 42min

The Real Value of Your Advisory Business with Scott Leak, CFP®

What’s your firm really worth—and how do you unlock that value? In this episode, David DeCelle sits down with Scott Leak, CFP® and CEPA, Senior Consultant at FP Transitions, one of the most trusted firms in the advisory M&A and valuation space. With over 17,000 valuations under their belt and 100+ M&A deals last year alone, FP Transitions has a unique vantage point on what makes firms valuable—and what holds them back. Scott shares his journey from a 22-year run at TD Ameritrade to helping advisors navigate valuations, succession planning, and equity strategies at FP Transitions. Whether you're thinking about selling, merging, or simply growing smarter, this episode is packed with guidance you won’t hear at your typical industry event.     🔑 What You’ll Learn: Why “valuation” is more than just a revenue multiple (and what buyers really look for) How to structure equity swaps, partial sales, and synthetic equity to keep upside without giving it all away The KPIs that actually move the needle on firm value—and which ones are vanity metrics Why administrative relief is driving more advisors to explore partnerships and acquisitions The top deal killers in M&A (and how to avoid them before they tank your deal)     📈 For Advisors Who Are: Curious about their firm’s value today and how to increase it over time Exploring mergers, acquisitions, or partnerships to offload operational headaches Thinking about exit planning but not ready to fully step away Looking for real-world benchmarks and strategic next steps from a firm that’s seen it all Connect with Scott: Learn more at FPTransitions.com Connect with Scott Leak on LinkedIn Want to talk about valuation or growth strategy? David can introduce you.   About the Model FA Podcast   The Model FA podcast is a show for fiduciary financial advisors. In each episode, our host David DeCelle sits down with industry experts, strategic thinkers, and advisors to explore what it takes  to build a successful practice — and have an abundant life in the process. We believe in continuous learning, tactical advice, and strategies that work — no “gotchas” or BS. Join us to hear stories from successful financial advisors, get actionable ideas from experts, and re-discover your drive to build the practice of your dreams.    Did you like this conversation? Then leave us a rating and a review in whatever podcast player you use. We would love your feedback, and your ratings help us reach more advisors with ideas for growing their practices, attracting great clients, and achieving a better quality of life. While you are there, feel free to share your ideas about future podcast guests or topics you’d love to see covered.    Our Team: President of Model FA, David DeCelle   If you like this podcast, you will love our community! Join the Model FA Community on Facebook to connect with like-minded advisors and share the day-to-day challenges and wins of running a growing financial services firm.
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Jun 10, 2025 • 36min

Tech-Powered Growth: Scaling Your RIA with Smart Workflows with Matthew Awai

In this episode, David DeCelle, CEO of ModelFA, sits down with Matthew Awai of Advisor Tech Partners to explore how financial advisors can streamline operations, automate tasks, and reclaim valuable time in their business. Matthew shares his journey from working at a broker-dealer to co-founding Advisor Tech Partners, and dives into real-world automation examples that are saving firms up to 10 hours per week—just in scheduling. Whether you're a solo advisor or part of an enterprise team, this conversation offers insights into tools like Zapier, Wealthbox, and AI agents that can modernize your firm’s workflows.     🧠 Key Topics Covered Matthew's path from broker-dealer to tech entrepreneur Common operational challenges for solo and enterprise advisors Automation solutions using CRM tools and Zapier Real examples: follow-up emails, workflow triggers, and data syncs The role of AI agents and SOPs in scaling a firm Why documenting processes is crucial for growth Tools discussed: Wealthbox, Zapier, scribe.how, AI workflows     ✅ Action Items 🔗 Check out Advisor Tech Partners’ YouTube Channel for tutorials and automation tips 📅 Book a discovery call with Advisor Tech Partners to explore how automation can help your firm 📘 Read The E-Myth by Michael Gerber to better understand the value of systems and delegation ✍️ Try scribe.how to start documenting your SOPs automatically   Connect with Matthew:   Email: matthew@advisortechpartners.com Website: https://www.advisortechpartners.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-awai/   About the Model FA Podcast The Model FA podcast is a show for fiduciary financial advisors. In each episode, our host David DeCelle sits down with industry experts, strategic thinkers, and advisors to explore what it takes  to build a successful practice — and have an abundant life in the process. We believe in continuous learning, tactical advice, and strategies that work — no “gotchas” or BS. Join us to hear stories from successful financial advisors, get actionable ideas from experts, and re-discover your drive to build the practice of your dreams.  Did you like this conversation? Then leave us a rating and a review in whatever podcast player you use. We would love your feedback, and your ratings help us reach more advisors with ideas for growing their practices, attracting great clients, and achieving a better quality of life. While you are there, feel free to share your ideas about future podcast guests or topics you’d love to see covered.  Our Team: President of Model FA, David DeCelle If you like this podcast, you will love our community! Join the Model FA Community on Facebook to connect with like-minded advisors and share the day-to-day challenges and wins of running a growing financial services firm.
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Jun 3, 2025 • 42min

Beyond Index Funds: A Revolutionary Approach to Generational Investing with Jacob Miller

This week on the Model FA Podcast, David interviews Jacob Miller, co-founder of Opto Investments, about bridging the gap between private markets and the wealth community. Opto focuses on providing better technology and alignment of incentives for RIA firms, offering custom funds and automated subdocs. They work with clients ranging from $500 million to tens of billions, emphasizing long-term strategies and high-quality private market investments. Jacob shares his background at Bridgewater Associates and the inception of Opto, highlighting the importance of trust, education, and differentiation in the RIA space. He also discusses the impact of books like "God Emperor of Dune" and "Letters from a Stoic" on his approach to business and life. We cover: Technology-Driven Differentiation Next-Generation Wealth Engagement Private Markets Reimagined Human-Centric Financial Advice Strategic Alignment and Transparency Connect with Jacob: Email: jacob@optoinvest.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacob-m-08b32967/ About the Model FA Podcast The Model FA podcast is a show for fiduciary financial advisors. In each episode, our host David DeCelle sits down with industry experts, strategic thinkers, and advisors to explore what it takes  to build a successful practice — and have an abundant life in the process. We believe in continuous learning, tactical advice, and strategies that work — no “gotchas” or BS. Join us to hear stories from successful financial advisors, get actionable ideas from experts, and re-discover your drive to build the practice of your dreams.  Did you like this conversation? Then leave us a rating and a review in whatever podcast player you use. We would love your feedback, and your ratings help us reach more advisors with ideas for growing their practices, attracting great clients, and achieving a better quality of life. While you are there, feel free to share your ideas about future podcast guests or topics you’d love to see covered.  Our Team: President of Model FA, David DeCelle If you like this podcast, you will love our community! Join the Model FA Community on Facebook to connect with like-minded advisors and share the day-to-day challenges and wins of running a growing financial services firm.
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May 20, 2025 • 48min

Building a Culture of Collaboration: Lessons from Ed Kuresman

What's up Model FAs?! This week David interviews Ed Kuresman from Mai Capital Management about his career journey. Ed started in finance during the tech bubble, interned at Madison Financial Advisors, and grew the firm from $20 million to over $1 billion in assets. During this period Ed emphasized the importance of client referrals, a positive culture, and strategic partnerships. In 2024, Madison joined Mai, adding operational expertise and expanding to 33 people. During this episode, Ed highlighted the significance of long-term planning and the impact of Phil Knight's "Shoe Dog" on his approach to business. He also discussed handling market volatility by focusing on financial planning and client education. Connect with Ed: Email: ed.kuresman@mai.capital Website: https://mai.capital/team/edward-kuresman/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-kuresman-cfa-7646931/ About the Model FA Podcast The Model FA podcast is a show for fiduciary financial advisors. In each episode, our host David DeCelle sits down with industry experts, strategic thinkers, and advisors to explore what it takes  to build a successful practice — and have an abundant life in the process. We believe in continuous learning, tactical advice, and strategies that work — no “gotchas” or BS. Join us to hear stories from successful financial advisors, get actionable ideas from experts, and re-discover your drive to build the practice of your dreams.  Did you like this conversation? Then leave us a rating and a review in whatever podcast player you use. We would love your feedback, and your ratings help us reach more advisors with ideas for growing their practices, attracting great clients, and achieving a better quality of life. While you are there, feel free to share your ideas about future podcast guests or topics you’d love to see covered.  Our Team: President of Model FA, David DeCelle If you like this podcast, you will love our community! Join the Model FA Community on Facebook to connect with like-minded advisors and share the day-to-day challenges and wins of running a growing financial services firm. MAI compliance signed off on the recording, with one ask; in the podcast description can you include the following disclosure language:  MAI Capital Management, LLC (“MAI”) is an investment adviser registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The opinions and analyses expressed herein are subject to change at any time. Any suggestions contained herein are general, and do not take into account an individual’s or entity’s specific circumstances or applicable governing law, which may vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and be subject to change.  Distribution hereof does not constitute legal, tax, accounting, investment or other professional advice. Recipients should consult their professional advisors prior to acting on the information set forth herein.  
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May 13, 2025 • 45min

Raising the Bar: People Skills, AI, and the Future of Financial Advice with Dr. Joshua Wilson

In this episode of the Model FA Podcast, David DeCelle is joined by Dr. Joshua Wilson, a behavioral finance expert with a PhD and a background in advisory, to discuss his journey and insights within the financial services industry. He emphasizes the importance of understanding subconscious decision-making in client relationships and the need for advisors to integrate behavioral finance principles beyond just education. Dr. Wilson highlights the significance of pre-client conversations and the emotional connection with clients. He also discusses the impact of AI on the industry, suggesting it will raise the bar for advisors, necessitating a focus on human elements and emotional intelligence. Dr. Wilson recommends the book "The Freedom of Self-Forgetfulness" by Tim Keller for its exploration of gospel humility and self-worth. In this episode: Introduction and Guest Background Motivation Behind Pursuing a PhD Behavioral Finance Philosophy Client Connection Strategies Center of Influence (COI) Relationship Management Technology and Future of Wealth Management Career Advice for Young Professionals Personal Development and Recommended Reading Conclusion and Contact Information Connect with Dr. Wilson: Email: joshua@drjoshuawilson.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/futureproofhq/ About the Model FA Podcast The Model FA podcast is a show for fiduciary financial advisors. In each episode, our host David DeCelle sits down with industry experts, strategic thinkers, and advisors to explore what it takes  to build a successful practice — and have an abundant life in the process. We believe in continuous learning, tactical advice, and strategies that work — no “gotchas” or BS. Join us to hear stories from successful financial advisors, get actionable ideas from experts, and re-discover your drive to build the practice of your dreams.  Did you like this conversation? Then leave us a rating and a review in whatever podcast player you use. We would love your feedback, and your ratings help us reach more advisors with ideas for growing their practices, attracting great clients, and achieving a better quality of life. While you are there, feel free to share your ideas about future podcast guests or topics you’d love to see covered.  Our Team: President of Model FA, David DeCelle If you like this podcast, you will love our community! Join the Model FA Community on Facebook to connect with like-minded advisors and share the day-to-day challenges and wins of running a growing financial services firm.
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May 6, 2025 • 51min

The Power of Networking and Creating Personal Connections with Matt Middleton

Today we are joined by Matt Middleton, CEO of Future Proof, a media and events company aiming to modernize the wealth and investment management industry. Matt shares his journey from humble beginnings to founding Future Proof, emphasizing the importance of networking and personal connections. He discusses the company's unique approach, including casual attire, shorter sessions, and innovative networking technology. Future Proof has grown significantly, with attendance increasing from 1,600 in 2022 to nearly 2,700 in 2023. Matt envisions Future Proof as a transformative force in the financial services ecosystem, aiming to change industry perceptions and foster meaningful connections.   Connect with Matt:   Email: matt@futureproofhq.com  Website: https://futureproofhq.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/futureproofhq/   About the Model FA Podcast   The Model FA podcast is a show for fiduciary financial advisors. In each episode, our host David DeCelle sits down with industry experts, strategic thinkers, and advisors to explore what it takes  to build a successful practice — and have an abundant life in the process. We believe in continuous learning, tactical advice, and strategies that work — no “gotchas” or BS. Join us to hear stories from successful financial advisors, get actionable ideas from experts, and re-discover your drive to build the practice of your dreams.    Did you like this conversation? Then leave us a rating and a review in whatever podcast player you use. We would love your feedback, and your ratings help us reach more advisors with ideas for growing their practices, attracting great clients, and achieving a better quality of life. While you are there, feel free to share your ideas about future podcast guests or topics you’d love to see covered.    Our Team: President of Model FA, David DeCelle   If you like this podcast, you will love our community! Join the Model FA Community on Facebook to connect with like-minded advisors and share the day-to-day challenges and wins of running a growing financial services firm.
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Apr 29, 2025 • 53min

Financial Planning Revolution: Inside Domain Money with Joanne Bradford

Joanne Bradford, the Chief Money Officer at Domain Money, shares her impressive journey from the advertising world to finance. She discusses why individuals aged 35-45 urgently need comprehensive financial plans and how technology is reshaping financial advice. The conversation highlights the shocking reality of unmanaged finances and offers actionable strategies for personal empowerment. Bradford emphasizes the importance of personalized financial planning and adapting strategies to meet diverse client needs in a rapidly evolving digital landscape.
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Apr 22, 2025 • 50min

Unlocking Growth Strategies for Financial Advisors featuring Craig Butler

Check it out! Host David DeCelle interviews Craig Butler, Chief Growth Officer at Tru Independence, about business development and sales strategies. Tru Independence, which recently merged with Sanctuary Wealth, manages $45 billion in assets with 120 advisors. Craig emphasizes the importance of differentiating in a crowded market, offering comprehensive business services including compliance, marketing, and technology support. He highlights the need for advisors to transition from practices to businesses, suggesting tools like EOS and business valuations to assess and improve operations. Craig also recommends Donald Miller's "Building a StoryBrand" for effective client engagement.   Connect with Craig:   Website: https://www.tru-ind.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tru-independence/   About the Model FA Podcast   The Model FA podcast is a show for fiduciary financial advisors. In each episode, our host David DeCelle sits down with industry experts, strategic thinkers, and advisors to explore what it takes  to build a successful practice — and have an abundant life in the process. We believe in continuous learning, tactical advice, and strategies that work — no “gotchas” or BS. Join us to hear stories from successful financial advisors, get actionable ideas from experts, and re-discover your drive to build the practice of your dreams.    Did you like this conversation? Then leave us a rating and a review in whatever podcast player you use. We would love your feedback, and your ratings help us reach more advisors with ideas for growing their practices, attracting great clients, and achieving a better quality of life. While you are there, feel free to share your ideas about future podcast guests or topics you’d love to see covered.    Our Team: President of Model FA, David DeCelle   If you like this podcast, you will love our community! Join the Model FA Community on Facebook to connect with like-minded advisors and share the day-to-day challenges and wins of running a growing financial services firm.
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Apr 15, 2025 • 1h 3min

Wealth Management Reimagined: Institutional Insights featuring Jonathan Foster

In this episode of the Model FA podcast, David DeCelle, CEO of ModelFA, interviews Jonathan Foster, President and CEO of Angeles Wealth Management, a national wealth management firm serving ultra-high-net-worth families. Angeles Wealth Management has grown from $250 million in 2017 to $2 billion in 2022. Jonathan shares his journey from Institutional Equity sales trader to founding his own firm and later joining Angeles. He discusses their unique business model, which aligns interests with clients by charging performance fees for alternative investments, leading to a 50% revenue increase in 2024. Jonathan emphasizes the importance of client selection, education, and legacy planning in their client experience.   Connect with Jonathan:   Website: https://www.angelesinvestments.com/private-wealth LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanrfoster,https://www.linkedin.com/company/angeles-investments/   About the Model FA Podcast   The Model FA podcast is a show for fiduciary financial advisors. In each episode, our host David DeCelle sits down with industry experts, strategic thinkers, and advisors to explore what it takes  to build a successful practice — and have an abundant life in the process. We believe in continuous learning, tactical advice, and strategies that work — no “gotchas” or BS. Join us to hear stories from successful financial advisors, get actionable ideas from experts, and re-discover your drive to build the practice of your dreams.    Did you like this conversation? Then leave us a rating and a review in whatever podcast player you use. We would love your feedback, and your ratings help us reach more advisors with ideas for growing their practices, attracting great clients, and achieving a better quality of life. While you are there, feel free to share your ideas about future podcast guests or topics you’d love to see covered.    Our Team: President of Model FA, David DeCelle If you like this podcast, you will love our community! Join the Model FA Community on Facebook to connect with like-minded advisors and share the day-to-day challenges and wins of running a growing financial services firm.

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