The Sound of Economics

In this episode of the Sound of Economics, host Rebecca Christie discusses global development with Bruegel director Jeromin Zettelmeyer and Alfonso García Mora, vice president for Europe, Latin America and the Caribbean at the International Finance Corporation, the World Bank Group’s arm for mobilizing private finance. They discuss what tools are available, what needs can be addressed, and how that fits into today’s geopolitical environment. By helping public and private funders work together, these efforts allow recipient countries like Ukraine to get more out of international assistance.

How Europe’s defence sector can align to climate goals without compromising security needs In this episode of the Sound of Economics, we look at the present and future efforts of the defence sector to integrate climate sustainability. Host Rebecca Christie is joined by Bruegel's Simone Tagliapietra and Kädi Ristkok, Executive Director of Cleantech for Baltics. Together, they explore the challenges and practical steps to decarbonise defence. What are the key policy actions needed at the European level? Relevant research: Ristkok, K. and L. Balciume (2025), 'Cleantech for Defence, Security and Resilience', White paper, Cleantech for Baltics  Tagliapietra, S. (2025), ‘Defence and climate: seven points for a common agenda', Analysis, Bruegel

Ignacio García Bercero, a trade policy expert at Bruegel and former European Commission official, and Heather Grabbe, also from Bruegel, specializing in EU-UK relations, discuss the implications of the recent EU-UK summit. They analyze the challenges and prospects of post-Brexit trade ties and the impact of U.S. tariffs under Trump. Exciting topics include new agreements in energy, fishing, and youth mobility, along with innovative carbon pricing strategies, highlighting the necessity for cooperative approaches amidst shifting geopolitical landscapes.

In this episode of The Sound of Economics, Yuyun Zhan sits down with Bruegel’s own Alicia García-Herrero and Plamen Tonchev, Head of Asia Unit at the Athens- based Institute of International Economic Relations (IIER), to dive into China's economic presence in the Eastern Mediterranean, a region that we have not covered much before in terms of its relations with China. The conversation delves into the geostrategic importance of the region and China’s highly tailored approach to individual countries, including Egypt, Türkiye, Israel, Greece, and Cyprus. What lessons can the EU draw from China’s engagement in this pivotal area? This episode is part of the ZhōngHuá Mundus series of The Sound of Economics. ZhōngHuá Mundus is a newsletter by Bruegel, bringing you monthly analysis of China in the world, as seen from Europe. Sign up now to receive it in your mailbox! Read more about Sino-Cypriot relations in Plamen Tonchev's paper, More Than Meets The Eye: Behind the Façade of Sino-Cypriot Relations.

In this episode of the Sound of Economics, we look at how Europe can attract and keep top-tier scientific researchers, especially given US political turmoil and the Trump administration’s conflicts with higher education. Host Rebecca Christie speaks with Bruegel’s Reinhilde Veugelers and Mario Mariniello, joined by Daniel Gros of the Institute for European Policymaking at Bocconi University, to discuss how the academic world is changing and what European authorities can do about it. Short-term funding incentives to attract scientists will help. But success requires long-term commitment to a research-friendly environment, such as the proposed Project Einstein initiative, to encourage top talent to put down roots. Relevant research: Mariniello, M. and Ruer, N. (2025), 'How much research talent could Europe grab from the US?', Analysis, Bruegel Heather Grabbe and Daniel Gros, '‘Project Einstein’: research excellence for Europe and the world', First Glance, 8 May 2025, Bruegel, https://www.bruegel.org/first-glance/project-einstein-research-excellence-europe-and-world 

In this episode of the Sound of Economics, we look at Germany’s budget outlook under new Chancellor Friedric Merz and whether much-needed reforms to the so-called debt brake put Berlin on a collision course with Brussels. Host Rebecca Christie is joined by Bruegel's director, Jeromin Zettelmeyer, and Bruegel non-resident fellow, Armin Steinbach, to discuss the legal and economic implications. How can the EU encourage Germany to spend more on defence and security without unraveling the new fiscal rules? Does the EU need to redo its debt safeguards again? Relevant research: Germany's fiscal rules dilemma, Bruegel Analysis, Armin Steinbach and Jeromin Zettelmeyer, 24 April 2025 Will EU fiscal rules prevent Germany from using its new national borrowing space? Bruegel newsletter, Armin Steinbach, 28 April 2025

*We released the original podcast on 23 April 2025. As the blackout in Iberian Peninsula happened soon after, we decided to record an update on what happened there. In this episode of The Sound of Economics, Rebecca Christie talks to Bruegel energy experts Conall Heussaff and Georg Zachmann about the urgent need to upgrade and connect Europe's electricity grids. They discuss their recent paper outlining the challenges, opportunities, and necessary policy responses to modernise Europe's energy infrastructure. Relevant publications: Heussaff, C. and G. Zachmann (2025) ‘Upgrading Europe’s electricity grid is about more than just money’, Policy Brief 04/2025, Bruegel McWilliams, B., S. Tagliapietra and G. Zachmann (2025) ‘Europe’s energy information problem’, Policy Brief 07/2025, Bruegel

In this episode of The Sound of Economics, Yuyun Zhan sits down with Bruegel’s own Alicia García-Herrero and Finbarr Bermingham, EU correspondent of South China Morning Post to unpack the latest developments in the US-China trade war and what they mean for the European Union. With Trump’s volatile approach to tariffs, China’s charm offensive toward Brussels, and the EU’s own strategic uncertainty, the conversation dives deep into the geopolitical triangulation reshaping global trade order. Can the EU defend its interests and values without being drawn into binary alignments? This episode is part of the ZhōngHuá Mundus series of The Sound of Economics. ZhōngHuá Mundus is a newsletter by Bruegel, bringing you monthly analysis of China in the world, as seen from Europe. Sign up now to receive it in your mailbox!

In this extra episode of The Sound of Economics, Bruegel’s Bertin Martens and Fiona M. Scott Morton explain the EU’s first fines under the Digital Markets Act, in conversation with Rebecca Christie. Apple and Meta were hit with the penalties on 23 April 2025 in what will be a test case for the European Commission’s new mandate to rein in digital gatekeepers. This podcast walks through why the fines were assessed, whether they will be big enough to change the companies’ behaviour, and how the EU must manage its regulatory agenda in the middle of a trade war. This podcast was recorded on 25 April 2025. Relevant research: Scott Morton, F. (2024) ‘It’s time for the European Union to rethink personal social networking’, Policy Brief 34/2024, Bruegel Bertin Martens, ‘EU targeting of digital services in tariff retaliation would present challenges’, Bruegel First Glance, 11 April 2025 Scott Morton, F. (2024) ‘Entry and competition in mobile app stores’, Working Paper 03/2024, Bruegel ‘The state of play on global tax’, The Sound of Economics, Bruegel podcast with Rebecca Christie, Benjamin Angel and Pascal Saint-Amans, 6 December 2023 * Music is excerpted from Lake Danse by Roy Hargrove, courtesy of Red Brick Songs and Universal Music

The Western Balkans are often seen as Europe’s periphery, but they are in fact embedded within the continent’s history and future ambitions. Despite close economic ties with the EU, these six countries—Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Serbia—remain outside the Union, navigating a complex path toward accession. In this episode of The Sound of Economics, Rebecca Christie is joined by Simonida Kacarska, Nina Vujanović and Anna Fiore to explore the economic realities, trade dynamics, and political hurdles facing the region. How integrated are these economies already? What barriers remain, and can the new EU growth plan bring about meaningful progress? This podcast was produced with financial support from The Open Society Foundations Western Balkans.