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All Out in the Open is a resource for LGBTQ Latter-day Saints and those who love them. Our goal is to help listeners connect with themselves, with their families, with their community, and with God. Hosts Charlie Bird and Ben Schilaty help listeners open up to themselves and those around them. Clare Dalton digs into the scriptures and teaches how they can be a catalyst for personal revelation. Iese Wilson takes listeners on a tour of LGBTQ Latter-day Saints all over the Church and introduces us to modern day pioneers. Michael Soto and Liz Macdonald highlight the amazing work of those who are building and strengthening their communities. Learn more at www.alloutintheopen.org.
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Nov 12, 2024 • 1h
Converting to the Church as a Gay Youth in the Philippines (with Cris Sembrano)
In this episode, Iese Wilson interviews Cris Sembrano, a gay Latter-day Saint and convert from the Philippines. Chris shares his journey of balancing faith and identity, from navigating cultural challenges in his hometown to finding community and love at BYU-Provo. His story highlights resilience and the strength of personal faith in finding belonging.

Nov 5, 2024 • 55min
Being a Peacemaker in a Divided World (with Julie Spilsbury)
ALL TOGETHER: In this special Election Day episode, hosts Liz and Michael welcome Mesa Councilmember Julie Spilsbury for an inspiring conversation about peacemaking in a divided world. Julie shares insights from her experience as a public servant dedicated to fostering unity through initiatives like the #MesaKindness campaign. From her early days in Mesa Public Schools to leading community partnerships, Julie’s journey reflects her deep commitment to bridging divides and building community. Join us for an empowering discussion on how each of us can become peacemakers in our own communities.

Oct 29, 2024 • 46min
Sticking with a Tough Conversation (Part 2 with Ben & Charlie)
OPEN UP: In this episode, Charlie and Ben continue their important conversation, choosing to stay in the discomfort to explore their differing experiences. As they navigate the tension, Ben is able to identify the root of his pain and feelings of rejection, leading to several enlightening “ah-ha” moments. Through this process, they find resolution and understanding. The episode ends with a segment filmed two weeks later, where they each reflect on the discussion and share takeaways for listeners. Join them for a candid exploration of how engaging in tough conversations can foster growth, healing, and deeper connections.

Oct 22, 2024 • 1h 8min
Unpacking our Different Reactions to General Conference (with Ben & Charlie)
THE Exclusive: In this episode, Charlie and Ben reflect on their contrasting experiences at the most recent General Conference. Charlie had a positive and hopeful experience, while Ben felt deeply hurt and ostracized by certain messages. As they discuss the positives and negatives, the conversation shifts away from the conference itself and becomes more focused on personal pain and frustration. Ben shares his struggles with feelings of exclusion, while Charlie tries to validate his pain but struggles to fully connect with its source.This leads to a tense moment between the two, as they try to understand each other’s emotions but find it hard to see eye to eye. The episode sheds light on how, as LGBTQ members of the church, things that may seem harmless or unremarkable to others can be deeply triggering. It’s an honest exploration of how two people can have different emotional responses to the same event and the complexities of supporting one another through those differences.

Oct 15, 2024 • 57min
Finding Light in Troubling Times (with Dr. Kristine Coons)
IN the Scriptures: This week Clare Dalton is joined by Dr. Kristine Coons to explore the cautionary tales found the books of Mormon and Ether. They delve into the profound lessons learned from the destruction of two civilizations, reflecting on how these narratives serve as powerful reminders of the consequences of turning away from God. Throughout their discussion, Clare and Dr. Coons emphasize the unwavering truth that God is always willing to partner with us, providing light even in our darkest moments. They highlight the importance of humility and open dialogue in fostering understanding and growth, showcasing how we can learn from one another to illuminate our paths.

Oct 8, 2024 • 50min
Navigating Identity and Faith in New Zealand (with Shaqaila Uelese)
OUT and About: Iese Wilson takes us to New Zealand where Shaquaila Uelese opens up about growing up, discovering her identity, and embracing the Māori term Takatapui. While her family initially struggled with her coming out, their love helped her reconnect with God and heal her testimony. Shaq also shares the inspiration behind her nonprofit, Nevertheless, which helps people heal from shame, and offers powerful advice to anyone who feels different.

Oct 1, 2024 • 35min
Passing LGBTQ+ Nondiscrimination in a Conservative Community (with Mayor Giles)
ALL Together: In this compelling episode, hosts Liz Macdonald and Michael Soto sit down with Mayor John Giles of Mesa, Arizona, to discuss the groundbreaking journey of passing an LGBTQ+ nondiscrimination ordinance in the city. Mayor Giles shares the intricate process of engaging with community members and church leaders, highlighting the challenges they faced in a polarized environment.Listeners will gain insights into the collaborative efforts that were crucial for overcoming resistance, as well as the personal stories that fueled their commitment to justice and inclusion. The episode emphasizes the importance of building strong relationships within the community, demonstrating how these connections ultimately led to the successful enactment of legislation that enhanced protections for millions. Tune in to hear about the power of dialogue and the impact of community-driven change.

Sep 24, 2024 • 56min
Podcast Announcement - All Out In The Open
In this live event from the gather conference, Charlie and Ben discuss the future of the podcast and where things are headed

Jun 27, 2024 • 38min
Bonus: How Has Dating Ben?
In this episode Ben and Charlie discuss future plans for the podcast, the gather conference, and get an update on how dating has gone for Ben

Mar 19, 2024 • 34min
Season 6 Wrapped
Sound Guy Mike joins Ben and Charlie to wrap up Season 6 with highlights, AI segments, and hints for Season 7. They discuss LGBTQ events, handling crushes, conversations with a transgender individual, support in religious communities, attachment styles, and expressing gratitude to listeners.