

Dwell Differently
Natalie Abbott & Vera Schmitz
If you were our friend, and if we could look you in the eyes and see your struggles and know you fully, and if we could only give you ONE thing—we'd give you God’s Word. There is more power and love and truth in one verse than in a thousand other words. So, let us help you memorize God's words in a simple, easy way. We hope you'll love listening in while we chat about what our verse means, why it matters, and how it intersects with our daily lives.
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Aug 13, 2025 • 43min
Real Life Change // Zach Windahl
"I said, 'God, I'm going to give two years to this. I'm going to dive into the Word. I'm going to study it as deeply as I can. And I need you to show up...' My whole life changed. I no longer thought the way I used to. I no longer had the same desires. I spoke differently."—Zach Windahl Today's Episode: Listen in as Natalie chats with Zach Windahl about the responsibility, the privilege, and the joy of representing Jesus in all of our lives. Zach shares about his own radical two year journey that changed everything about how he lives his life. He challenges and encourages us with both the weight of our actions and the beautiful simplicity of living for Jesus. You won't want to miss this episode!This month's memory verse: “And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.” — Colossians 3:17Today's guest: Zach Windahl is an author and content creator focused on helping his audience grow in their faith. He is the founder and former CEO of The Brand Sunday. Marrying his passion for entrepreneurship and making faith simple has landed Zach in a unique place in the Christian landscape, where he reaches hundreds of thousands of followers on social media every day. He wrote his latest book, The Bible, Simplified, to help others be less overwhelmed by the Bible and more confident in their faith. Want to dive deeper into this month's verse? Join Natalie in the her monthly Bible Study.Support our show: It's really just as simple as leaving us a review!Links from today's show: Want more from Zach? Find him at zachwindahl.com and @zachwindahl.Check out this 4 step Bible study: The EASY Bible Study Method from Coffee and Bible Time.See the Bible as one big story with The One Story Bible, by Greg Gilbert (get it for 30% off!).Mark your calendars for Dwell's BIGGEST SALE OF THE YEAR - 8/18-8/29.Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.

Aug 4, 2025 • 20min
Colossians 3:17 Deep Dive // Follow Jesus (and Kill Your Zombie)
"We are called to live lives that reflect [Jesus]...It's not a chore, it's a choice. It's a freedom and a joy and an honor...You can be who you are, truly and fully, in Christ."— Natalie AbbottToday's episode: Natalie Abbott walks us through Colossians 3:1-17, explaining who we are in Christ, who we used to be, and how that changes everything! She helps us understand the two selves that war inside of in us. One self is full of life and peace and joy and even Jesus himself—and we are to daily put on this new self. The other self is more undead than dead, full of rot and filth, trying to drag us back into the grave. And we are called to kill it daily. Natalie encourages us that in the power of Jesus, we can do both! More than that, when we mess up, there is grace and forgiveness all the more.This month's memory verse: “And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.” — Colossians 3:17Want to go even deeper in this month's verse? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Bible Study Membership.If you love this show...support it by leaving us a review.Links from today's show: EASY Bible Study MethodThe One Story Bible by Greg GilbertOur best-selling Anxious No More Necklace is back in stock! Mark your calendars for our biggest Warehouse Sale EVER! 8/18 - 8/29Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.

Jul 30, 2025 • 16min
TRUTH When You Need Rest // A Summer Bonus Episode
"God is the one who refreshes us. He is the one who fills us up." — Natalie AbbottToday's episode: We all need to be filled up by Jesus before we can pour out anything. In today's episode, we're going to discover what true soul rest looks like. Vera and Natalie are discussing the difference between superficial rest and the soul rest of Christ, how we receive rest, and how we can experience rest even in the busiest of seasons. Today's episode is a crossover episode from Overcome: The Dwell Differently Book Podcast. In it, Natalie and Vera discuss 11 verses to help you overcome negative thinking.Today's verses: “A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed.” — Proverbs 11:25"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest." — Matthew 11:28Read along with us: Get your copy of Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God's Truth. Links from today's show: Dwell Differently, by Natalie Abbott & Vera SchmitzOvercome: The Dwell Differently Book PodcastOn Magic and Miracles, by Marian A. Jacobs.Everyday Gospel, by Paul David Tripp.Do Everything in Love NecklaceStreetlights Bible AppDwell Differently Bible Study membership. Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.

Jul 23, 2025 • 40min
A Generous Lifestyle // Adrienne Camp
"A lifestyle of generosity is us just simply saying, 'I want in on the game, Jesus! Let's do this together!"— Adrienne CampToday's Episode: Listen in as Natalie chats with Adrienne Camp about all the ins and outs of generous living. You'll be inspired by beautiful stories of how Adrienne has experienced the generosity of others. She makes connections about how our generosity is a reflection of our generous God. Because God never rationed what he gave us, asking whether we deserve it, we can give in the same way. This month's memory verse: “A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed.” — Proverbs 11:25Today's guest: Adrienne Camp, originally from South Africa, relocated to America at nineteen to pursue a career in music. She met her husband, fellow musician Jeremy Camp, and they have been married since 2003. Together, they have two daughters, Bella and Arie, and a son, Egan. In addition to her musical career, Adrienne is the author of three books, including the Bible study As for Me: Life Through the Lens of the Psalms, and is a contributing author to the Bible study The Way of Wisdom: A Study on the Book of Proverbs. She is currently pursuing her Master’s Degree in Theology through Denver Seminary. Adrienne is deeply committed to her family and to spreading God's love worldwide. Her greatest aspiration is to know God intimately and to make Him known to others. Support Our Show: We love reading your comments! AND they help other people find our show. Please let us know what you think by leaving a review.Links from today's show: Adrienne's InstagramAdrienne's Proverbs Bible study: The Way of WisdomOn Magic and Miracles, by Marian A. Jacobs.Everyday Gospel ,by Paul David Tripp.Do Everything in Love NecklaceDwell Differently Bible Study membership. Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.

Jul 16, 2025 • 25min
What Kind of Refreshment Are You? // Natalie & Vera
"Never undervalue what you bring. Take time to think about all the ways you can be generous—your time, your possessions, how you use your home—there are just so many ways to give."— Vera SchmitzToday's Episode: Vera and Natalie are talking about refreshing others and being refreshed in ways only two sisters could. Laugh along as they discuss what kind of "refreshment" they each would be (Vera's an espresso and Natalie is an Ensure). Be encouraged by stories of how they have been refreshed in unlikely ways and be challenged as they talk practically and creatively about refreshing others.This month's memory verse: “A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed.” — Proverbs 11:25Want to go even deeper? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Dwell Differently Bible Study Membership.Support our show: It's really just as simple as leaving us a review!Links from today's show: On Magic and Miracles by Marian A. Jacobs.Everyday Gospel by Paul David Tripp.Do Everything in Love NecklaceDwell Differently Bible Study membership. Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.

Jul 9, 2025 • 36min
Cultivate, Share, and Receive God's Gifts // Christie Purifoy
"I kept thinking, 'Okay. What does God want me to do for others? What am I offering others? What am I giving to others?' And again and again, the things I felt called to do or make or create or tend would literally refresh me."— Christie PurifoyToday's Episode: This episode is an absolute joy! We're so grateful to Christie Purifoy for sharing her wise insights into generous living and openhanded receiving. Christie is an author, teacher, and gardener. On today's episode she tells stories and shares biblical truths about God's abundance and our calling to cultivate spacious places not only to share them with others but to actually receive them as a blessing for ourselves.This month's memory verse: “A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed.” — Proverbs 11:25Today's guest: Christie Purifoy is a writer and gardener who loves to grow flowers and community. She is the author of six books, including two spiritual memoirs and a recently completed trilogy of gift books with essays and photographs celebrating the gardening life. Her latest book, A House to Call Home: Creating Places That Will Comfort and Care For Us, will launch in February 2026. Christie earned a PhD in English Literature from the University of Chicago but eventually traded the classroom for an old Pennsylvania farmhouse called Maplehurst where she lives with her husband and four children. You can find Christie on Instagram (@christiepurifoy) and on Substack where she writes a regular newsletter on home, garden, and the ancient church called A Spacious Place.Support Our Show: We love reading your comments! AND they help other people find our show. Please let us know what you think by leaving a review.Links from today's show: ChristyPurifoy.comOn Magic and Miracles by Marian A. JacobsEveryday Gospel by Paul David TrippAnxious No More Necklace Dwell Differently Bible Study membership. Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.

Jul 1, 2025 • 19min
Proverbs 11:25 Deep Dive // You Are Free to Give
"Jesus, in his generosity, has set us free from stinginess, from calculating returns, from worrying whether there'll be enough. We are free to be generous on every occasion with what he has given us freely, knowing that our generosity results in thanksgiving and praise to God."— Natalie AbbottToday's episode: Join Dwell Differently co-founder, Natalie Abbott, as she helps us understand biblical generosity and refreshment. She unpacks the strange math of generosity—where giving our stuff away results in more blessing. She also explains the counter-intuitive math of greed, where more is never enough. She speaks with hope about loving people who don't love us back. And she flips the script at the end, encouraging those of us who don't have anything in our tanks to let God and his people refresh us. This month's memory verse: “A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed.” — Proverbs 11:25Want to go even deeper? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Dwell Differently Bible Study Membership. If you love this show...support it by leaving us a review. Links from today's show: Get your copy of On Magic and Miracles by Marian A. Jacobs.Check out Everyday Gospel by Paul David Tripp.Our best-selling Anxious No More Necklace is back in stock! Looking for a Bible study to do with your teen this summer? Check out Natalie and Vera's new teen Bible study, Dwell on These Things. Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.

Jun 25, 2025 • 39min
God's Will in Our Suffering // Paul Hastings
"When we pray, 'your kingdom come, your will be done,' that's the craziest part...that's where we have to come to grips with God's plan."— Paul HastingsToday's Episode: We're so excited to introduce Paul Hastings, whose life's work is telling stories about God's kingdom on the Compelled Podcast. Today, he shares a snippet of a story about what it looks like to seek and follow God's will in our suffering. Listen in to the story of Kathleen and George Lansing, a mom and a dad whose baby son is on death's doorstep. You won't want to miss what God does both in the life of their son and in their own hearts. This month's memory verse: "Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven." —Matthew 6:10 Today's guest: Paul Hastings lives with his wife and four children near Austin, Texas, and attends Redemption Hill Church. He is the host of the Compelled Podcast. His work has been featured by Dr. James Dobson's Family Talk, Christianity Today, World Magazine, American Family Association, and The Gospel Coalition. He is the author of the brand new book, Compelled, a collection of real-life stories about sin, surrender, and the Savior who changes everything.Support Our Show: We love reading your comments! AND they help other people find our show. Please let us know what you think by leaving a review.Links from today's show: Listen to the rest of Kathleen and George's story on Compelled Episode #45 I Gave God My 2-Year-Old Son - Kathleen Lansing.Listen to the Compelled Podcast.Listen to Compelled Episode #3 Abortion Clinic Owner Transformed - Carol EverettRead Paul's book, Compelled. Check out Penelope Judd by Shai Linne.Memorize Psalm 23 with your kids! Get the Dwell Differently Psalm 23 kit.Memorize and meditate on God's Word with a Dwell Differently membership. Dig even deeper into God's Word (and memorize it!) in Natalie and Vera's new Bible study, Dwell on These Things and book, Dwell Differently. Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.

Jun 18, 2025 • 26min
Set Your Kingdom Aside // Natalie & Vera
"When I think about praying 'your kingdom come,' for me, it's an entire perspective shift. It's like setting yourself up on an entirely different path, because everything (as a human) is about our desires, our prerogative, our checklist, our plans, our strategies—our little kingdom. But when I pray 'your kingdom come,' I'm setting aside those things, I'm submitting it all to God's kingdom. I'm saying, 'No, your kingdom come, today.'"— Vera SchmitzToday's Episode: What does it look like to really live for God's kingdom and in step with his will? Today, Dwell Differently co-founders and sisters Natalie and Vera are talking about just that. They discuss both the desire and the difficulty of walking in God's will. Listen in as they talk through how to submit our wills and our ways to follow God's will and his way.This month's memory verse: “Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.” — Matthew 6:10 Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about the easy button for Scripture memory, Dwell Differently’s monthly membership!Support our show: It's really just as simple as leaving us a review!Links from today's show: Check out Penelope Judd by Shai Linne!Memorize Psalm 23 with your kids! Get the Dwell Differently Psalm 23 kit.Looking for a Bible study to do with your teen this summer? Check out Natalie and Vera's new Bible study, Dwell on These Things. Dig even deeper into God's Word (and memorize it!) in Natalie and Vera's Bible study and book: Dwell on These Things and Dwell Differently. Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.

Jun 11, 2025 • 36min
Follow God's Will // Jason Abbott
"We need to be very careful that we're thinking about the will of God biblically...If you think God's will never includes sacrifice or difficult things or hardships, you should really wonder whether or not maybe it's your will that's winning out each time and not God's will for you."— Jason AbbottToday's Episode: Listen, learn, and laugh along with Natalie and her husband, Jason Abbott. They're talking frankly, deeply, and lightheartedly about the beauty and the glory and the blessings of God's kingdom and his will. Jason makes these deep theological truths accessible with simple explanations and personal examples. You won't want to miss out on this one! This month's memory verse: "Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven." —Matthew 6:10 Today's guest: Dr. Jason Abbott is married to Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently. They have a big family of seven and spend a lot of time running around mid-Missouri together. Jason has been in pastoral ministry for 20+ years in the Evangelical Free Church of America. He’s currently the Senior Pastor at Central Church of Jefferson City, Missouri. Support Our Show: We love reading your comments! AND they help other people find our show. Please let us know what you think by leaving a review.Links from today's show: Find out more about Pastor Jason's ministry at Central Church. Listen to Jason's sermon on Matthew 6:10 on the This Is Central Podcast. Sign up for our newsletter and get our FREE Digital Bible Study! Already get our newsletter? Go to this link for your free study!Check out Penelope Judd by Shai Linne!Get the Handbook to Prayer that Jason Mentioned. Memorize Psalm 23 with your kids! Get the Dwell Differently Psalm 23 kit.Memorize and meditate on God's Word with a Dwell Differently membership. Dig even deeper into God's Word (and memorize it!) in Natalie and Vera's new Bible study, Dwell on These Things and book, Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.


