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Nov 13, 2024 • 59min

"There Won’t Be Many More COPs Where You Can Ignore Reality" Featuring Michelle Manook, FutureCoal

Today we had the pleasure of hosting Michelle Manook, CEO of FutureCoal, for an insightful discussion on coal from a global perspective – an important yet often overlooked topic. Michelle joined FutureCoal in 2019 and previously held senior roles at Orica, Archer Energy, Brockman Mining, and Woodside. As CEO, she leads FutureCoal’s mission to support key players across the coal value chain and advocates for balanced and inclusive international energy policies that respect the sovereign rights of coal-producing and coal-consuming nations. We were delighted to visit with Michelle. We covered a lot of ground in our conversation, beginning with an overview of FutureCoal, the significance of their rebrand from the “World Coal Association,” and Michelle’s path to the coal industry, driven by a commitment to the humanitarian aspects of energy access and poverty alleviation as well as a keen drive for a challenge. We discuss technological advancements in coal, including the improved efficiency and emissions control in modern coal plants compared to older facilities, coal’s multifaceted role beyond power generation, and the need for balanced energy policies that give coal fair access to technology investment and funding. We explore potential outcomes from COP 29 for coal, the need to expand the definition of abatement to include any emissions reduction efforts, and the impact of High-Efficiency Low-Emissions (HELE) technology and improved energy efficiency as significant contributors to emissions reductions. We cover investment trends in coal, global coal dynamics, Michelle’s views on coal’s importance for national security and international competitiveness, and the investment case for sustainable coal technologies. Michelle also emphasizes the needs and aspirations of developing nations for equitable energy access. It was a wide-ranging discussion and we can’t thank Michelle enough for sharing her time and insights with us. As you’ll hear, Michelle references data from a few reports in our conversation. FutureCoal’s report entitled “Clean Coal Technology in ASEAN: Balancing Equity, Security & Sustainability” is linked here and FutureCoal’s report entitled “Addressing UN Sustainable Development Goals in the ASEAN Coal Value Chain” is linked here. Mike Bradley opened the conversation by noting that many markets have rallied since Trump’s election as the 47th President of the United States. Since the election, the 10-year bond yield rose from ~4.25% to ~4.45% driven by concerns that Wednesday’s CPI report could print hotter than expected and cause the FED to head towards a temporary rate cut pause. Interest rates and the US dollar look to be moving higher on a belief that Trump’s trade policies (higher tariffs) and a push towards less regulations will lead to higher real growth and higher US deficits. On the crude oil market front, since the election, WTI has fallen roughly $4/bbl to ~$68/bbl due to optimism that Trump could quickly move towards peace negotiations in the Middle East & Ukraine. He noted that while Trump’s slogan of “Drill Baby Drill” proved to be a good campaign slogan, the reality is that US producers are laser focused on capital discipline and shareholder returns and that’s unlikely to change.  Mike further noted that some believe Trump could move to implement Iranian oil sanctions early in his term, which would be offset by ample OPEC spare capacity. On the broader equity market front, since the election the DJIA, S&P 500 & Nasdaq are all up ~4-5%, the Russell 2000 is up ~7% and Bitcoin is up ~30%. Broader equity markets are technical
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Nov 11, 2024 • 56min

"What Does Energy Look Like Over The Next Four Years?" With Anne Bradbury, Bill Flores and Maria Korsnick

In this discussion, energy leaders Anne Bradbury, CEO of AXPC; Bill Flores, Vice Chairman of ERCOT; and Maria Korsnick, CEO of NEI, explore future energy policies post-election. They delve into the implications of the Trump administration on energy reliability and affordability. The trio emphasizes bipartisan collaboration to enhance nuclear and natural gas support while navigating the evolving legislative landscape, including potential changes to the Inflation Reduction Act. Their insights highlight the critical intersection of energy politics, national security, and technological innovation.
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Oct 30, 2024 • 49min

"After This Election We’re Still All Going To Be Texans And Americans" Featuring Senator John Cornyn, R-TX

Today we had the honor of hosting Senator John Cornyn of Texas, who has served in the US Senate since 2002 and is now in his fourth term. Senator Cornyn has been a steadfast advocate for Texas interests and supports policies that promote responsible domestic traditional energy production while exploring new energy sources to strengthen US energy independence. Senator Cornyn has held several key leadership roles including Republican Whip and currently serves on the Senate Finance, Intelligence, and Judiciary Committees. Before joining the Senate, Senator Cornyn served as a district judge, a member of the Texas Supreme Court and Texas Attorney General. We were thrilled to connect with Senator Cornyn for an election, energy and geopolitical focused discussion one week away from the 2024 Presidential Election. We begin by asking Senator Cornyn for his perspective on escalating international conflicts and global geopolitical tensions, including the Iran-Israel conflict, North Korea’s involvement in Ukraine, and threats from Russia and China. We discuss the importance of robust US intelligence and deterrence to maintain global stability, the need for proactive US leadership in foreign conflicts, and the reality that “our holiday from history is over.” Senator Cornyn outlines opportunities and challenges in the coming lame duck session, key legislative actions, and Congressional priorities including national defense funding, tax policy, and the federal budget, as well as key Senate races and the potential for Republicans to retake the Senate. We explore America’s energy potential, the strategic importance of US LNG to European allies, challenges with transmission and permitting for energy infrastructure, the evolution of US policy toward China, the possibility of permitting reform, and the merits of state versus federal power. We also touch on incentives for reshoring critical manufacturing to address supply chain vulnerabilities, national debt and budget priorities, and the critical importance of national unity despite political differences. It was a fantastic discussion, and we are very grateful to Senator Cornyn and his team for their continued efforts on behalf of the energy community. Mike Bradley kicked off the discussion by highlighting that markets this week are increasingly focused on a handful of Big Tech Q3 earnings and next week’s Presidential election. On the bond market front, bond traders continue to be perplexed that the 10yr bond yield has spiked from 3.6% back to 4.3% over the last month, which is a higher level than the 10yr was trading prior to the 50-basis point cut at the September 18th FOMC Meeting. He noted that bond traders seem to be betting that Trump will win the Presidency and that his promise of Chinese Tariff increases and significant Federal regulatory cuts might lead to higher “real” growth and higher deficits. On the crude oil market front, WTI had fallen roughly $5/bbl this week on a brief de-escalation in Mideast tensions and concerns that Chinese economic stimulus plans would disappoint. On the broader equity market front, the S&P 500 continues to post new highs. Big Tech stocks seem to be retaking market leadership given that the market-weighted S&P 500 Index is again outperforming the equal-weighted S&P 500 Index. On the energy equity front, lower oil prices are leading many energy companies to take a more cautious approach on their Q3 calls which is continuing to weigh on the entire sector. Arjun Murti emphasized that long-term macroeconomic trends are more influential than election outcomes alone, and that a balanced “all-of-the-above” approach to support maximizing traditional resource production and exports as well as new energy technologies is crucial not only for the US but for developing nations seeking diversified energy for geopolitical and economic stability. We hope you find today’s discussion as interesting and insightful as we di
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Oct 23, 2024 • 1h 5min

"None Of It Matters If You Don’t Have Power" Featuring Peter Lake, Former Public Utility Commission of Texas

 Today we had the privilege of hosting Peter Lake, former Chairman of the Public Utility Commission of Texas (PUCT). Peter was appointed by Governor Greg Abbott to stabilize and strengthen the Texas electrical grid following Winter Storm Uri in 2021. He concurrently served as a Board Member of ERCOT and concluded his term with the PUCT in June 2023. Previously, Peter chaired the Texas Water Development Board. Since leaving public office, Peter has served as an independent strategic advisor and technical consultant through his firm, Cardinal Rose. We were thrilled to welcome Peter to our offices in Houston for a discussion of power systems broadly and his incredible experience tackling the Texas grid problems after the tragic events of February 2021. In our conversation, Peter provides candid insights into the post Uri rebuilding experience and discusses how and why Governor Abbott reached out to him to take on this incredibly hard role. We discuss the challenge in regaining public trust following the crisis and the strategies required to rebuild confidence in ERCOT, his very productive partnership with interim ERCOT CEO Brad Jones, the decision-making process at PUCT and its impact on power systems, ERCOT’s unique governance structure and its relationship with PUCT, and the changes implemented after the 2021 storm. Peter shares his views on managing through a crisis, the importance of uniting stakeholders to facilitate efficient decision-making, and the rapid progress Peter and his team made with support from the Texas Legislature on projects that had previously been delayed. We explore the actions needed to address grid reliability, the challenges posed by Texas’s rapid power demand growth, the need to expand transmission and dispatchable energy resources, the critical balance between renewables and reliable backup power, the importance of market-oriented solutions, concerns with over-reliance on batteries, problems brewing now in other US grids, and the federal government’s role in system reliability. Peter also touches on the close relationship between water management and energy, the potential for adopting incentive models to improve power reliability, and much more. We walked away with a deeper appreciation for the efforts made by Peter and the teams at PUCT and ERCOT in 2021 to stabilize the grid and are grateful to Peter for sharing his unique insights. As Texans, we are all personally thankful to Peter and everyone else who stepped in to an unbelievably hard situation after the storm to improve the grid in Texas.    Mike Bradley kicked off the discussion by highlighting that this week looks to be starting out as a pretty slow and less volatile trading week for most markets. On the bond market front, over the last 4-5 weeks the 10yr bond yield has increased from ~3.6% up to ~4.2% due to a belief that the FED won’t raise interest rates in 2024 as much as was previously expected. On the crude oil market front, WTI was up a couple dollars per barrel this week on talks of a further increase in Chinese stimulus. On the broader equity market front, the S&P 500 was down marginally this week after a significant runup over the past three months. Broader markets could trade sideways over the next couple of weeks as investors further digest the unexpected runup in interest rates, the beginning of Q3 earnings and the outcome of the U.S. Presidential election. On the energy equity front, a couple of oil service companies issued disappointing outlooks last week which weighed on the service industry. He also noted that this week’s Q3 reporting would be peppered with a handful of electric utilities, mining companies, natural gas E&Ps and oil service companies. Jeff Tillery discussed the growing excitement in nuclear with major recent developments (Three Mile Island, tech offtake contracts, and tech company investments) but cautioned to stay mindful of potential challenges and realisti
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Oct 16, 2024 • 1h 7min

"We Aren’t In A Position Where We Can Be Exclusionary" Featuring Dr. Carolyn Kissane, NYU

Today we were delighted to welcome Dr. Carolyn Kissane, Associate Dean of Graduate Programs and Global Affairs at NYU’s Center for Global Affairs. Dr. Kissane is a Lifetime Member of the Council on Foreign Relations, a Senior Fellow at the George H.W. Bush Foundation for US-China Relations, Co-Host of “The Clean Energy Revolution” Podcast, and Founding Director of NYU’s Energy, Climate Justice, and Sustainability Lab. Carolyn earned her Ph.D. in Comparative Education and Political Science from Columbia University and has been with NYU since 2004. Her research focuses on energy, sustainability innovation and policy, and cybersecurity. We were thrilled to connect with Carolyn for an insightful discussion on energy and global affairs. In our conversation, Carolyn provides background on NYU’s energy studies, its interdisciplinary approach, and the growing importance of understanding the connection between energy systems, economic security, and human security. Carolyn shares observations on the increasing focus on climate and energy security at the Council on Foreign Relations, especially with regards to trade and tariffs. We explore the changing dynamics of oil markets, the ineffectiveness of sanctions, the increase of rule-breaking in international trade, shifting student perceptions of energy, global energy dynamics and the U.S.’s competitive advantage due to its abundance of natural gas resources. We touch on Carolyn’s experiences in Kazakhstan, the severity of the energy crisis in Europe and Germany’s economic struggles, the difficulty of reversing these challenges due to regulatory and high energy costs, how bureaucratic challenges and regulatory barriers are slowing down development in Europe and the US, Javier Milei’s political appeal, US energy competitiveness, and much more. We ended by asking Carolyn for her vision of climate policy leadership ten years from now. It was a broad-based discussion and we’re thankful to Carolyn for sharing her time and unique insights. Mike Bradley kicked us off by highlighting broader equity market volatility, the beginning of Q3 Energy sector reporting, and observations regarding this week’s plunge in crude oil price. On the broader equity market front, ASML Holding’s stock priced plunged due to their semiconductor orders noticeably missing estimates which in turn pressured the “hot” Technology sector lower. Liberty Energy and SLB will be the first two oil service companies reporting Q3 results this week with investors focused on their NAM oil service activity & pricing outlook and international revenue guidance. On the crude oil front, WTI price plunged ~$5/bbl (~$70/bbl) this week due to three interrelated issues: Mideast supply concerns, a reduction in global oil demand estimates, and Brent oil traders recently repositioning themselves from a “net short” to a “net long” managed money futures trading position. Jeff Tillery added to Mike’s comments and emphasized that the narrow range analysts are predicting for oil prices in 2025 is unlikely to be accurate and to consider the potential factors that could drive prices either higher or lower than consensus. We greatly enjoyed our global discussion with Carolyn today and hope you find it as interesting as we did. Our best to you all!
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Oct 9, 2024 • 60min

"We’re All In Bubbles And We Have To Get Out Of Them" Featuring Dr. David Spence, Author of "Climate of Contempt"

Today we had the opportunity to visit with Dr. David Spence, Chair in Natural Resources Law at the University of Texas and Author of “Climate of Contempt: How to Rescue the U.S. Energy Transition from Voter Partisanship.” Dr. Spence joined the University of Texas faculty in 1997 and his research focuses on the law and politics of energy regulation. He holds a Ph.D. in Political Science from Duke University and serves as a professor of Business, Government & Society at the McCombs School of Business in addition to teaching at Texas Law. “Climate of Contempt” was recently published in August and addresses the politics and forces that have affected energy policy. We were thrilled to thrilled to explore the book’s key themes and arguments with David. In our conversation, we discuss the various factors David has researched contributing to ineffective policymaking, the value of engaging in open and honest discussions across ideological lines, how social media and advocacy media influence policy understanding, the destructive effects of today’s media landscape on comprehending complex issues, and issues with social media echo chambers. David shares some of the feedback he’s received since publishing “Climate of Contempt,” the reluctance of political leaders to address the failings of their own party members, the role of natural gas in energy policy, and the benefits of being technologically agnostic. We touch on shifts in attitudes toward nuclear energy, the need for more discussions around risks and trade-offs with energy technology, growing global energy demand, the potential for technological innovation in energy, and how differences in energy and environmental policy influence where industries decide to locate their operations. We also cover the challenges of regulating energy markets, the counterproductive demonization of oil and gas, potential ways to encourage cross-sector collaboration between academia, government and the commercial sector, and more. For additional resources related to “Climate of Contempt,” please visit www.climateofcontempt.com. We greatly enjoyed the discussion with David and appreciate him sharing his time and insights with us. Mike Bradley opened the discussion by highlighting two areas, those being the recent surge in both U.S. bond yields as well as global crude oil prices. On the bond yield front, he discussed that despite the FED’s 50-basis point interest rate cut three weeks ago, the 10-year U.S. bond yield has surged from ~3.65% to ~4.00% mostly due to hotter-than-expected recent economic data. He flagged that several important economic reports will be released this week (CPI, PPI & Consumer Sentiment) and that these reports could create some added bond and equity market volatility. Regarding crude oil, in the past week WTI price surged to over $77/bbl (~$9/bbl gain) due to concerns of whether Israel would attack Iranian nuclear sites and/or crude oil export terminals/refineries. Last week’s news of a Chinese stimulus program also contributed to the surge in global oil prices, but one of the key reasons for the recent surge in oil price is a “short squeeze” which is an outgrowth of an extremely bearish trader positioning in crude oil futures (especially Brent). He also noted that on Tuesday, WTI price slid by over $3/bbl (~$74/bbl), as well as the price of several base metal commodities, on news that the Chinese government was holding back on additional economic stimulus spending. Jeff Tillery pointed out that while a stronger underlying economy is good for long-term energy demand, short-term price boosts from geopolitical turmoil may have a negative impact on stocks over time. Thank you again to David for joining and thanks to you all for your support and friendship!
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Oct 4, 2024 • 53min

"This Was A Preventable Event" Featuring Dr. Salvatore Mercogliano, Campbell University

In this enlightening discussion, Dr. Salvatore Mercogliano, an Associate Professor of History at Campbell University and maritime expert, dives deep into the recent dockworkers' strike and its repercussions on the energy sector. He highlights the tension between unions, the impact of COVID-19 on shipping profitability, and the looming challenges of automation. Dr. Mercogliano also paints a picture of an increasingly expensive shipping landscape in the next decade, influenced by geopolitical tensions and evolving environmental regulations.
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Oct 2, 2024 • 1h 1min

"We Cannot Exist Without Shipping" Featuring Toni Stojcevski and David Millar, Wärtsilä

Join Toni Stojcevski, General Manager of Project Sales & Development at Wärtsilä Marine, and David Millar, Principal of Markets at Wärtsilä Energy, as they dive into the crucial role shipping plays in the global economy. They explore Wärtsilä's innovations in alternative fuels and the complexities of transitioning from bunker fuel to cleaner energy. The urgency for the shipping industry to achieve net-zero emissions by 2050 is emphasized, along with the significant investments required and the challenges ahead in navigating effective decarbonization strategies.
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Sep 25, 2024 • 1h 15min

"Our Corporations Are The World’s Leaders For A Reason" Featuring Ryan McLeod & Dan Neff, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

Many of you have likely noticed, as we have, some of the news coming out of Delaware about certain rulings, the debate around those rulings, and the subsequent debate around actions taken by the legislature to clarify Delaware law. As we’ve read about these developments, we were intrigued and turned to the team at Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz (WLRK) for their thoughts on these matters. We were extremely pleased to have Ryan McLeod, Partner, and Dan Neff, Partner and Member of the Executive Committee, join us for a far-ranging and intriguing discussion on these issues. Ryan joined WLRK in 2013 and specializes in representing corporations and directors in litigation involving mergers and acquisitions, proxy contests, corporate governance disputes, and class and derivative actions involving allegations of breach and fiduciary duty. He also serves as a Lecturer in Law at Columbia and has extensive experience litigating corporate matters in the Delaware Court of Chancery and the Delaware Supreme Court. Dan has over four decades of experience advising major companies in high-profile transactions and served as WLRK’s Co-Chairman for 20 years through October 2023. He specializes in mergers and acquisitions, corporate governance, and securities law and has represented clients in a broad range of industries including energy, technology and telecom, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, manufacturing/industrials, retail/consumer products, gaming, and more. In our conversation, Ryan first provides perspective on Delaware’s importance to corporate law and the large percentage of companies that are incorporated there. Ryan walks us through three specific legal rulings that prompted amendments in Delaware including the Twitter stockholder litigation, the Activision merger case, and a case involving contractual governance and shareholder veto rights. We discuss the significant and unique amount of public debate surrounding these amendments, the practical impact of Delaware rulings on corporate governance, particularly in activist settlements and private equity deals, and the implications for boards and corporate lawyers. We also touch on whether these developments might lead boards to become more cautious in decision-making, the historical context of Delaware appraisal cases, and changing complexities around CEO compensation. We explore the Caremark Doctrine’s increasing relevance in corporate governance, the complexity of preparing board minutes to show transparency and thoroughness without over-disclosing, and emerging corporate governance risks. Ryan and Dan also share their insights on what sets Delaware law apart from other states, how companies manage external pressures from activism, the future of corporate governance, and much more. Thank you, Ryan and Dan, for sharing your insights and expertise with us all! We learned a tremendous amount. Mike Bradley kicked us off with a few updates. He noted that the FED’s 50-basis point rate cut was initially received well, but since then, most markets have traded sideways. On the bond market front, the 10-year U.S. bond yield actually increased as the rate cut was mostly expected. He noted consensus around additional rate cuts in 2024 and 2025. He also noted that the 2yr/10yr bond yield spread widened to ~20-basis points after being inverted for the past two-plus years. On crude oil, WTI price has traded sideways this week (~$71/bbl) and Mike discussed several positive developments which could temporarily be supporting crude oil prices including a Chinese stimulus program, continued historic “net short” length in Brent futures and growing Mideast conflict. OPEC published its annual World Oil Outlook this week (linked here) and again raised its global oil demand estimates (~113mmbpd for 2030 & ~120mmbpd for 2050) which is well above the view of many others. He then flagged that this week is Climate Week in N
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Sep 18, 2024 • 1h 8min

"If You’re Afraid Of Climate Change AND Nuclear Power, You Have A Math Problem" With Roger Pielke Jr., The Honest Broker

Today we were delighted to welcome back our good friend Roger Pielke Jr. for an engaging discussion on the evolving climate policy and energy landscape. Roger is the author of “The Honest Broker” on Substack which reaches 30,000+ subscribers across 153 countries. He is a Nonresident Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute where he focuses on science and technology policy, the politicization of science, government science advice, and energy and climate. Since 2001, Roger has served as a professor in the Environmental Studies department at the University of Colorado Boulder and will retire from academia at the end of 2024. We last hosted Roger on COBT on September 29, 2023 (episode linked here) and were excited to get him back to hear his latest insights on how the world has changed in the past year, especially in the climate community. Roger joined us from Tokyo, where he is speaking at a Symposium hosted by the University of Tokyo on Japanese energy strategy and climate policies. In our conversation, we discuss how 2023 so far has been one of the most inaccurate in seasonal hurricane forecasting history with fewer named storms than predicted, the history of hurricane forecasting, and the groups and organizations responsible for hurricane season predictions. Roger shares his perspectives on the complexity of climate modeling and its limitations, human impact on climate and the importance of focusing on risk management rather than debating the future, and Japan’s energy landscape and how it’s a serious national security issue for the country. We explore the debate within the climate science community about the accuracy and relevance of current climate scenarios, the slower pace of climate modeling with updates every 10-20 years, the importance of understanding historical climate variability to better prepare for the future, and critical population assumptions in climate models. We touch on the need for improved communication in climate science and energy policy, future trends for climate science, Roger’s diverse audience, and much more. It was a fascinating discussion and we greatly appreciate Roger helping us understand this complex field better. Mike Bradley opened the conversation by highlighting that most markets so far this week (bonds, commodities, currencies & equities) were focused on Wednesday’s FOMC Rate Decision Meeting (1pm CST). On the bond market front, the 10-year U.S. bond yield was unchanged this week (~3.65%). He noted that odds last week had favored a 25-basis point interest rate cut but that consensus had shifted this week to a 50-basis point cut. He further noted (excluding 2001 & 2007 recessions) that the S&P 500 has typically rallied a little over 10% in the 6-months following the beginning of interest rate cuts. On the crude oil front, WTI surged back above $71/bbl after recently bouncing off a strong technical trading support level of $65/bbl. Mike shared a chart that exhibited Brent Oil Managed Money Net Long Contracts vs Brent Oil Price and noted that this was the first time, in the last 10-15 years, that Managed Money was actually “net short” Brent oil future contracts. This signifies that oil traders are extremely bearish Brent oil futures for what they see as a slowing global economy, surging non-OPEC oil production growth and oversupplied global oil S/D in early 2025. He further noted that this “net short” position was larger than it was in April 2020 (Brent price ~$20/bbl) which also seems to signal that oil traders today aren’t fearful that OPEC can or will curtail additional barrels (like in previous go-arounds) to balance global crude oil markets. Brett Rampal highlighted this week’s announcement of the NRC’s issuance of a construction permit for the Natura Resources Molden Salt Reactor (Natura MSR-1) at Abilene Christian University, marking the first liquid salt fueled reactor licensed by

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