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Apr 2, 2025 • 1h 3min

"I Call Trump 2.0 A Long Gamma Administration" Featuring Michael Kao, Akanthos Capital Management

Today we were delighted to welcome Michael Kao, Private Investor at Kao Family Office and CEO & Portfolio Manager of Akanthos Capital Management. Michael founded Akanthos in 2002 and transitioned to focus on his family office in 2019. Michael is also the author of "Kaoboy Musings” on Substack (linked here). Previously, he was a Portfolio Manager at Canyon Capital Advisors, where he co-founded the Canyon Arbitrage Fund. Michael started his career in the commodities unit at J.Aron/Goldman Sachs and has over 30 years of experience across commodities, credit, convertible arbitrage, and distressed investing. As we approach what President Trump has coined “Liberation Day” on April 2nd, we were eager to find someone who could help us all better understand the rationale behind these developments and their implications. In recent Substack posts, Michael has shared some of his interesting theories and makes a case that what appears chaotic and unpredictable might actually be part of an audacious but coordinated plan. We were thrilled to hear Michael’s latest insights on market volatility, energy dynamics, the evolving investment landscape, and why April 2nd might just be another stop on the way to (hopefully) something better. In our conversation, we first ask Michael for his view on the complexities surrounding the Trump Administration’s actions and how to interpret the end goals of their policies. He shares an analogy comparing the current U.S. economic environment to navigating an asteroid field (like Han Solo’s decision to fly the Millennium Falcon directly into an asteroid field when being chased by the Empire in Star Wars), highlighting several key economic challenges to manage including the current 7% non-wartime deficit, short-term debt reliance, geopolitical tensions, and the need for broader economic recalibration. We explore various ways to manage the U.S. debt including the possibility of terming out debt and reshoring manufacturing, the impact of oil prices on the broader economy, the weakening U.S. dollar, and how the Trump Administration’s shift from a “carrot” to “stick” approach in policy negotiations may affect market dynamics. We discuss potential scenarios for a U.S. recession or economic slowdown, the growth of the private equity market, the increasing role of private credit in financing private equity-backed companies, and the role of the Federal Reserve in the broader economic picture. Michael provides insights on how sovereign wealth funds could help manage the U.S. national balance sheet by leveraging geographic assets, his experience in transitioning to managing his family office and focusing more on uncorrelated private investments, the potential for a black swan event, the risk of ongoing geopolitical tensions escalating, the importance of thinking outside the box, and much more. We greatly appreciate Michael joining and sharing his expertise and insights with us all. As you’ll hear, we discuss some of Michael’s recent posts. His piece entitled “Mental Models – Navigating The Asteroid Field With Trump 2.0” is linked here and the Kaos Theory podcast episode featuring Michael Every is linked here. Mike Bradley kicked off the show by noting that markets are in a “Calm Before the Storm” mode with investors awaiting the impact of Trump’s April 2nd reciprocal tariffs. Rather than focusing on how markets might react post-reciprocal tariffs, Mike reviewed how markets performed in Q1’25 with the “Trumpatility” overhang. In bonds, the 10yr fell in Q1 by ~35bps to ~4.20%. WTI price ($71.50/bbl) ended Q1 relatively unchanged, which was a big surprise given the bearish oil sentiment that had built throu
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Mar 26, 2025 • 1h 4min

"The Only Two Things In The World Perfectly Correlated Are Energy And Prosperity" With Dr. Paul Johnson & Jeff Miller

Dr. Paul Johnson, President of the Colorado School of Mines, and Jeff Miller, CEO of Halliburton, discuss the evolving landscape of energy education and workforce development. They emphasize the importance of industry-academia collaboration in shaping a sustainable future. Key topics include CSM’s experimental mine, the resurgence of mining for energy security, and initiatives to attract top talent. The conversation highlights how practical experiences in engineering are crucial for nurturing innovation, particularly in a climate of growing energy demands and technological advancements.
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Mar 19, 2025 • 1h 3min

"Debt To Fret" Featuring Dr. Scott Tinker, Switch Energy Alliance

Dr. Scott Tinker, Chairman of Switch Energy Alliance and renowned energy expert, shares his insights on the complex interplay between energy development and economic growth. He emphasizes the need for pragmatic leadership in the oil and gas sector amidst shifting public opinions. The discussion highlights the stark energy disparities between wealthy and developing nations, where urgent human development often overshadows climate concerns. Dr. Tinker also unveils his new initiative, Energy Corps, aimed at empowering communities through sustainable energy solutions.
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Mar 10, 2025 • 47min

"If You Get Energy Wrong, Nothing Else Matters" Featuring U.S. Energy Secretary Chris Wright

Chris Wright, the 17th Secretary of Energy, discusses the crucial intersection of energy policy, affordability, and sustainability. He highlights the expanding role of natural gas in the global landscape and the rising electricity costs. Wright delves into the regulatory barriers affecting energy infrastructure and the pivotal need for grid stability. AI’s potential in advancing both energy solutions and national security is also explored, emphasizing that pragmatic policymaking is essential for achieving energy independence and innovation in the sector.
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Mar 5, 2025 • 1h 3min

"It’s About Keeping Your Eyes On The Horizon" Featuring Neil Mehta & Carly Davenport, Goldman Sachs

Neil Mehta, Managing Director at Goldman Sachs, and Carly Davenport, Vice President of Equity Research, discuss current trends impacting the energy sector and utilities. Neil highlights a shift toward selective stock performance amid fluctuating commodity prices, emphasizing the need for capital efficiency. Carly delves into the rising power demand boosted by AI and data centers, exploring how utilities are adapting. They also address the critical role of management quality and the complexities of power pricing dynamics, offering valuable insights for investors.
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Feb 26, 2025 • 43min

"The Troubled Energy Transition" Featuring Dr. Dan Yergin, S&P Global

In this captivating discussion, Dr. Dan Yergin, Vice Chairman of S&P Global and Pulitzer Prize-winning author, shares his profound insights into the evolving energy landscape. He delves into the delicate balance between energy security and economic growth amidst the global energy transition. Yergin also reflects on the influence of current U.S. policies and the stark contrasts between energy priorities in developed versus developing nations. Additionally, he previews key themes for the upcoming CERAWeek, emphasizing the geopolitical implications of today's energy challenges.
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Feb 19, 2025 • 57min

"My Worry Is We Become Like France" Featuring Dr. Lars Schernikau and Dr. Daniel Stelter

In this engaging discussion, Dr. Lars Schernikau, an energy economist and author, and Dr. Daniel Stelter, a macroeconomist and founder of the think tank Beyond The Obvious, explore the upcoming German elections. They express skepticism about meaningful reforms amidst Germany's economic decline, exacerbated by COVID policies and high energy costs. The duo also delves into the complexities of coalition politics, the need for strategic investments, and contrasts U.S. energy policies with Germany's challenges, emphasizing the critical role of communication in shaping a sustainable future.
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Feb 12, 2025 • 54min

"From A Canadian Point Of View, We’re Bewildered" Featuring Hon. Lisa Raitt, CIBC

The Honorable Lisa Raitt, Vice-Chair at CIBC and former Canadian Minister, shares her insights on U.S.-Canada trade dynamics. She discusses the implications of President Trump’s tariff comments, Canada's evolving political landscape with Prime Minister Trudeau, and the Conservative Party’s resurgence under Pierre Poilievre. Lisa emphasizes trade tensions' impact on unity among Canadians and the necessity for robust energy infrastructure. She also analyzes the fluctuating Canadian dollar's effects on various sectors, especially regarding small businesses and farmers.
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Feb 5, 2025 • 1h 4min

"You’re Going To Start To See a Widening Competitive Moat" Featuring David Bat, Kimberlite Research

It’s a big week in Houston with NAPE in town, and we were thrilled to welcome our good friend David Bat, President of Kimberlite Research, for an in-depth discussion of the latest OFS activity, trends, and technologies. David joined Kimberlite in 2015 and holds over 30 years of experience spanning upstream, power, and oilfield research. Kimberlite is a global oil and gas market research and consulting firm that gathers insights from more than 20,000 hours of annual interviews with industry professionals to analyze market trends and benchmark performance for oilfield equipment and service providers. We were excited to hear David’s perspectives on the evolving OFS landscape.In our conversation, David provides background on Kimberlite’s unique approach to gathering high-quality data from E&P operators and oilfield service users worldwide. He explains how their methodology offers deeper insights into technology adoption, service quality, and operational performance and walks us through key slides from a presentation (full version linked here). We explore recent technological advancements including rotary steerable systems improving drilling efficiency, self-oriented perforating guns enhancing completion effectiveness, and advancements in electric submersible pumps. We discuss how digitalization, software applications, and AI-driven analytics are reshaping oilfield operations as well as trends in frac technology, oilfield electrification, and shifts in fuel choices. David shares factors driving operator recommendations and highlights the contrast between North American and international markets, the potential for unconventional growth in Argentina, Australia, and the Middle East, the resurgence of offshore developments, and the challenges that prevent certain innovations from gaining widespread traction. We explore broader key industry themes, including consolidation trends in oilfield services, how company culture influences service provider success, the growing role of mobile power solutions across both oil and gas and non-energy sectors, and AI’s role in data aggregation, market intelligence, and operational decision-making. We end by asking David for his vision of the oil and gas services industry in the next decade. This is where he makes a great comment about "differentiation and an improving competitive moat" around the best companies. It was a wide-ranging and thought-provoking discussion and we’re very grateful to David for sharing his expertise with us.
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Jan 29, 2025 • 1h 11min

"You Don’t Deregulate By Writing A Regulation" Featuring Philippe Ducom, ExxonMobil Europe

It was our privilege today to welcome Philippe Ducom, President of ExxonMobil Europe, for a discussion centered on Europe’s challenges regarding energy policy and overall economic competitiveness. Philippe has been with ExxonMobil for 37 years and began his career as an engineer at the Notre-Dame de Gravenchon Chemical plant in Seine-Maritime. Over the years, he has held a variety of senior positions across manufacturing, business analytics, planning, sales, and marketing, working in Europe, Japan, the United States, and Saudi Arabia. Before being appointed as President of ExxonMobil Europe in 2018, Philippe served as Chairman, CEO, and President of ExxonMobil Saudi Arabia and previously led ExxonMobil Japan as Lead Country Manager. We noticed Philippe’s post, “Red tape is driving investment out of Europe – and threatening the energy transition” (linked here), in October of last year and have been eager to discuss. We were thrilled to host Philippe and learn from his unique perspectives and outlook for Europe.In our conversation, Philippe provides background on the European Parliament and Commission’s five-year cycle, and why the time to discuss these matters is now with a new 5-year legislative cycle just beginning. We discuss the challenges facing Europe including low growth, declining purchasing power, and lack of industrial competitiveness, as well as recommendations to reduce the regulatory burden. Philippe highlights how the previous Commission’s challenges have included managing COVID-19, helping the Ukrainians, pursuing energy security and trying to attain society's climate goals, all of which has bloated government balance sheets. Philippe shares his perspective on the complexity and inefficiency of Europe’s regulatory and permitting process, his recommendations for immediate actions that would require no cost but yield significant improvements, challenges of operating or opening new industrial facilities in Europe and he provides an update on the European chemicals and refining sectors. We examine the structure of the EU, cultural differences in the reliance on markets in the U.S. versus Europe, the importance of free markets and risk-taking to drive innovation and competitiveness, and ExxonMobil’s increased engagement with public policy and public discussions overall. We cover country-specific energy mix decisions among EU member states, how recent geopolitical events have exposed the importance of energy policy and gas infrastructure, Europe’s approach to energy regulation, the growing role of natural gas and nuclear energy in Europe’s energy mix, and the shifting dynamics of gas supply and infrastructure post-Ukraine invasion. We also explore the impact of Europe’s carbon border adjustment mechanism and the notion of extraterritorial regulations, how the U.S. IRA could offer valuable lessons for Europe, and much more. We ended by asking Philippe for his vision for Europe’s energy landscape in the next decade comparing two scenarios, one where Europe continues on its current regulatory path versus one where pragmatic policies are put in place. It was a wide-ranging and insightful discussion.

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