

Genesis Marks the Spot
Carey Griffel
Raiding the ivory tower of biblical theology without ransacking our faith.
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Nov 14, 2025 • 1h 2min
Between Glory and Ashes: Fire at the Boundary - Episode 153
This episode launches a new mini-series on the theme of fire in Scripture and how it works as more than just a judgment or “end times” metaphor. Fire marks boundaries, tests fitness for nearness, guards holy space, and signals God’s own presence with His people.
Starting at the flaming sword of Eden, Carey traces how fire shows up as a guardian of sacred space, a refining presence, and a covenant sign—from Noah’s burnt offerings and Abram’s smoking firepot to Moses and the burning bush. Along the way, she draws on frame semantics to help us see fire not as a single symbol, but as a cluster of overlapping frames: guardian, purifier, theophany, judgment, empowerment.
We also explore some fascinating scholarly debates about Genesis 3:24:
Is the flaming sword just a weapon… or a spiritual being in its own right?
How do ancient Near Eastern parallels and Psalm 104 factor in?
What do later readings like the Targums suggest about God’s presence “east of Eden”?
From Cain and Abel to Noah, Abram’s covenant ceremony, and Moses at the burning bush, this episode asks:
What counts as a boundary in these stories?
What makes someone fit to draw near?
How do judgment and mercy belong together in God’s fiery presence?
Finally, these themes connect to the bigger biblical story of glory, conquest, and God’s dangerous-yet-merciful nearness—with an invitation to go hunting for fire imagery in your own studies, using word studies as a launchpad but not the destination.
On This Rock Biblical Theology Community: https://on-this-rock.com/
Website: genesismarksthespot.com
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot
Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan
Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/
Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan

Nov 7, 2025 • 1h 7min
From Magic to Presence: Prayer, Baptism, and Protection - Episode 152
In this sweeping synthesis episode, Carey zooms out from Mesopotamian exorcism texts to contrast ancient magic/technique with the Bible’s holiness/presence frame. We explore how Scripture attributes sickness and calamity to God’s covenant governance (not a sprawling demonology), why ritual ≠ incantation, and how protection language (Psalm 91) differs when it’s used as prayerful trust rather than magical leverage. We also trace Passover’s blood as sign of covenant loyalty (protection for presence) versus pagan apotropaic rites (protection from volatile powers), and we re-situate baptism as incorporation into a purified people indwelt by the Spirit. Along the way: John Walton on conflict theology, Heiser’s take on Psalm 91 and the “evil eye,” Egypt’s maat, Hittite purity, and the danger of the sacred. We finish by reframing discipleship around holiness first, not death first—so that ethics flow from presence, not technique.
Resources & references mentioned
Psalm 91 and Jesus’ temptation (Matt 4); Heiser’s Naked Bible episodes on Psalm 91 & “evil eye” (ep. 162 and 321 referenced).
Udug-hul Tablet 12; Shurpu confessional series; Egypt’s maat; Hittite rituals and kings.
Community note In November 2025 the On This Rock community is discussing the church—join the conversation; link in show notes.
On This Rock Biblical Theology Community: https://on-this-rock.com/
Website: genesismarksthespot.com
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot
Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan
Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/
Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan

Oct 31, 2025 • 1h 7min
Purity before Sinai 3: One Goat to Clean Them All - Episode 151
Concluding the mini-series reading from Udug-hul (Udug-hul) Tablet 12, a Mesopotamian exorcism/purification text, and tracing how a single goat in this ritual ends up doing several jobs—substitute, container of breath, apotropaic object, and finally the thing that carries evil away. From there, Carey compares the logic of the text with Leviticus 16 (Day of Atonement) and Numbers 19 (red heifer) and asks the hard question: where’s the line between ritual and magic? The answer is more nuanced than “the Bible isn’t magical.” Sometimes the Bible does very ANE-looking things—but without trying to force the deity. We also see that Mesopotamia loved protective objects (bells, cords, incense, figurines, “good” demons) and how Israel’s Scriptures both fit into and flip that world.
What we cover
Quick recap of the first two episodes in this series
Reading the next section of Tablet 12 (the “one goat doing many jobs” part)
Apotropaic magic 101: bells, cords, circles, incantations, and why people felt vulnerable
Why Mesopotamia can use the same class of being (storm demon) for harm or healing
Parallels and contrasts with Leviticus 16 and Numbers 19
“You don’t do a ritual if you don’t think it does something” — but what kind of “something”?
How Israel’s rituals purify space without acting like they’re trapping a stray demon
The seven protective figures and divine-council overtones
A pastoral-ish landing: how might Christians still hedge their bets with low-key magical thinking?
On This Rock Biblical Theology Community: https://on-this-rock.com/
Website: genesismarksthespot.com
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot
Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan
Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/
Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan

Oct 24, 2025 • 1h 17min
Purity before Sinai 2: Sacred Technology of Cosmic Repair - Episode 150
This episode continues last week’s deep dive (Ep. 149) into Udug-hul Tablet 12, exploring how ancient Mesopotamians understood purity, sacred space, demons, and ritual—and how that compares (and collides) with the Bible’s worldview. Carey walks through Ea (Enki), Marduk, Belet-ili, Eridu, decreed destinies, and a striking black-goat “scapegoat” rite tied to breath, life, and expulsion—then turns to the big question: what’s the difference between magic and ritual for Christians, and how does that shape practices like baptism, exorcism, and embodied worship?
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In this episode:
Why look before Sinai to grasp biblical purity and sacred space
Mesopotamian divine council logic: Ea → Marduk → priest as mediator
Eridu as a prototype of divine order; destinies and lots language
Belet-ili (Mami/Nintu) and “learning the ways of the demons”
The black goat rite: breath, life, and removing the ālu/utukku demon
Biblical contrasts: Leviticus 16 scapegoat vs. Mesopotamian incantation
Magic vs. ritual: mechanistic tech vs. covenantal, participatory practice
Embodied sacred space/time: why liturgy, baptism, Eucharist still matter
Mentioned texts & themes: Genesis 1–2 (cosmic temple), Deut 32 (lots), Enūma Eliš, Atrahasis, Eridu traditions, Leviticus 16 (scapegoat), Ezekiel 37 (breath & life).
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Join the community: On This Rock (Carey’s biblical-theology community) and ways to support via Patreon/PayPal.
On This Rock Biblical Theology Community: https://on-this-rock.com/
Website: genesismarksthespot.com
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot
Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan
Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/
Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan

Oct 17, 2025 • 1h 9min
Purity Before Sinai: Subverting Storm Demons - Episode 149
Today we step before Leviticus into Sumerian and Akkadian worlds to see how ancient people thought about purity, danger, and the sacred—and how Israel both echoes and upends that world. We sample Udug-hul exorcism tablets (incl. Tablet 12), meet storm-like demons, and trace common ancient ritual media (living water, flour circles, fire, incense, bells, tamarisk).
Along the way we test big claims: holiness as a spatial/ritual frame, why “purity precedes holiness,” why Israel’s God doesn’t do “conflict theology” like Mesopotamia, and how not to over-systematize the Divine Council.
If you’ve read Heiser, Walton, or dabbled in 1 Enoch, apkallu lore, or Enuma Elish, this episode gives you a more complex, historically grounded backdrop—without ransacking your faith.
Don’t forget to check out the community at On This Rock for resources for Geller’s Healing Magic and Evil Demons.
On This Rock Biblical Theology Community: https://on-this-rock.com/
Website: genesismarksthespot.com
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot
Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan
Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/
Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan

Oct 10, 2025 • 1h 36min
Unseen Realm Expanded with Mike Chu - A Heiser-ish Conversation Episode 148
Carey sits down with Mike Chu to talk through the new Unseen Realm - Expanded Edition, how Heiser clarified his stance on creeds, why frame semantics and ancient contexts matter, and why a Christotelic reading (aimed at the eschaton) can keep Scripture’s big story intact. Along the way: pastoral cautions about celebrity culture, the value of scholarship and seminary, and a practical reframing of Imago Dei as being made as God's image (not merely "in" it). Highlights include: Heiser’s "non-credal" (not anti-credal) posture, Genesis 6 in an exilic frame, and how holiness as "other" reshapes baptism, worship, and daily vocation.
What's actually new in Unseen Realm (Expanded Edition) and why it matters for teachers and small-group leaders
Heiser on creeds: non-credal vs anti-credal, and using creeds as boundaries, not as an interpretive lens
Christocentric vs Christotelic: aiming at the end goal of Christ (including the Spirit and the Eschaton)
Reading Genesis 6 with an exilic Mesopotamian frame vs a Mosaic/Egyptian frame
Imago Dei as vocation: "made as God's image," and why that lands pastorally
The completion of AWKNG School of Theology's "Seminary on a Thumb Drive" initiative
On This Rock Biblical Theology Community: https://on-this-rock.com/ Website: genesismarksthespot.com Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot Music credit: "Marble Machine" by WintergatanLink to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/ Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan

Oct 3, 2025 • 1h
Purity Before Holiness: Reading Toward Christ - Episode 147
Continuing the water series by framing purification and holiness through an ancient Near Eastern lens and a Christotelic (telos-aimed) reading of Scripture. We contrast Christocentric “reading back” with Christotelic “reading forward,” explore holy/common vs clean/unclean as two distinct axes, and ask whether Leviticus was ever meant to be a sin-management system—or a way to host a holy God in sacred space. Along the way: covenant at Sinai, ritual logic, righteousness in OT vs NT, and why Jesus as incarnate Holy One unites holy and common in himself. Bonus at the end: Carey’s first look at The Unseen Realm: Expanded Edition and its nods to frame semantics and christological lenses.
In this episode
Editing experiment: does lighter editing serve the mission better?
Why hermeneutics matters: Christocentric vs Christotelic readings
Purity → Holiness: which comes first in human religious imagination?
Two spectra, not one: holy/common and clean/unclean
Leviticus beyond “sin management”: making space for divine presence
Covenant first, cult second; why Israel is unique amid the ANE
Righteousness reconsidered across Testaments
Word-study pointers: “pure/purge/refine” (gold, oil, incense), ritual vs ethical usage
Teaser: upcoming episodes on atonement frames, water vs fire, and Divine Council themes
Resources mentioned
Michael S. Heiser, The Unseen Realm — Expanded Edition (new front-matter on frames & christological lenses)
John Walton on Christotelic reading (telos-oriented Scripture)
Carey’s On This Rock community (October theme: Unseen Realm)
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Join the conversation in the On This Rock community
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On This Rock Biblical Theology Community: https://on-this-rock.com/
Website: genesismarksthespot.com
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot
Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan
Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/
Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan

Sep 26, 2025 • 1h 1min
Baptism and Ritual: Symbol, Reality, and Identity - Episode 146
This episode of Genesis Marks the Spot explores the meaning and function of ritual with a special focus on baptism. From Jewish mikvahs and Qumran practices to Greco-Roman mystery rites and John the Baptist’s wilderness call, baptism emerges as more than a symbol—it’s participation in a story of death, resurrection, and new creation. We’ll look at biblical passages (Romans 6, Galatians 3, Colossians 2, and more), denominational perspectives, and how ritual frames help us move beyond false binaries of “just symbolic” versus “mechanistic.”
Topics include:
What ritual is and why it matters
Rituals as communal participation and transformation
Jewish and Greco-Roman contexts for baptism
Jesus’ baptism as a Trinitarian theophany
Baptism in Acts and the Pauline letters
Denominational views on baptism
How rituals shape identity, allegiance, and belonging
On This Rock Biblical Theology Community: https://on-this-rock.com/
Website: genesismarksthespot.com
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot
Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan
Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/
Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan

Sep 19, 2025 • 1h 7min
Living Water vs. Rain: Toil, Covenant, & Spirit - Episode 145
This episode continues our deep dive into the biblical theme of water. From Genesis to the prophets, from Eden’s rivers to Israel’s covenant rain, water frames the story of God’s presence, judgment, and renewal. Along the way we’ll explore:
How waters above (rain) and waters below (springs, rivers) carry distinct theological meanings
Why the flood brings both destruction and recreation
Ancient Near Eastern cosmology of water and how the Bible reframes it
The difference between living water, rainwater, and cisterns—and how they connect to Spirit and baptism
Stories like Hagar in the wilderness and Rebekah at the well as pictures of God’s provision and promise
What does all of this mean for baptism, covenant, and discipleship today? Join me as we trace the living streams back to their source.
On This Rock Biblical Theology Community: https://on-this-rock.com/
Website: genesismarksthespot.com
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot
Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan
Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/
Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan

Sep 12, 2025 • 1h 10min
The Butcher, the Book, and the Bloody Good Theology - Episode 144
In this episode of Genesis Marks the Spot, Carey sits down with Phil Bray—author of Leviticus on the Butcher’s Block and creator of the YouTube channel Leviticus is Fun—for a wide-ranging conversation on sacrifice, atonement, and the surprising beauty of Leviticus.
They explore:
How Leviticus reframes atonement away from wrath and toward restoration
Why sacrifice isn’t about death, but about life and communion
What Phil learned from being both a butcher and a Bible nerd
How Leviticus helps us understand Hebrews, Jesus, and the Lord’s Supper
Whether the sacrificial system was an accommodation… and if so, what kind
Why blood and water both purify—and how Jesus’ life transforms both
Why Passover and atonement aren't the same, and why that matters for communion
The deeper frames behind the word “substitution”
Carey and Phil also dive into the contagious holiness of Jesus, purification rituals, and why Christians must learn to disambiguate muddy theological terms like “atonement” and “substitution.”
This episode is part of our Atonement monthly theme over at the On This Rock biblical theology community. Join us to discuss the many frames of substitution, atonement, and covenant—and be sure to check out Phil’s channel and book!
Links & Resources:
Phil’s YouTube: Leviticus Is Fun
Leviticus on the Butcher’s Block
On This Rock Biblical Theology Community: https://on-this-rock.com/
Website: genesismarksthespot.com
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot
Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan
Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/
Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan


