The New Evangelicals Podcast

Hosted by Tim Whitaker
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Mar 15, 2024 • 1h

231. The Case Against John MacArthur // Tim Whitaker

SummaryIn this episode, Tim delves into the case against John MacArthur, a well-known pastor and theologian. He discusses MacArthur's views on slavery, and highlights MacArthur's legacy of protecting men in his church who have been accused of sexual abuse. Tim presents evidence of MacArthur's knowledge of the abuse and his failure to take appropriate action. This conversation exposes the disturbing actions and responses of John MacArthur and Grace Community Church (GCC) in cases of child abuse within their congregation. The chapters cover MacArthur's dismissive response to Wendy's accusations, the confrontation and revelation of Paul Guay's abuse, GCC's inadequate response to the abuse, MacArthur's involvement and contradictory statements, MacArthur's public shaming of Eileen Gray, the elders' dismissal of Gray's abuse allegations, David Gray's conviction and MacArthur's support, Alistair Begg's controversial advice and MacArthur's response, and the lack of accountability for MacArthur's actions.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Podcast Schedule Changes04:37 The Case Against John MacArthur09:20 John MacArthur's Views on Slavery26:24 John MacArthur's Response to Wendy's Accusations27:21 Confrontation and Revelation of Paul Guay's Abuse28:18 Grace Brethren Church's Response to Paul Guay's Abuse29:14 John MacArthur's Involvement and Affidavit30:13 John MacArthur's Denial and Affidavit32:04 John MacArthur's Public Shaming of Eileen Gray32:59 Elders' Response to Eileen Gray's Abuse Allegations34:34 David Gray's Conviction and John MacArthur's Support44:33 Alistair Begg's Controversial Advice and John MacArthur's Response49:12 John MacArthur's Lack of AccountabilitySourcesPaul GuayDavid Gray Source #1David Gray Source #2John MacArthur on RaceCheck out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more! We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 13, 2024 • 2h 7min

230. Libs of TikTok’s Propaganda Can’t Stand Up to Actual Journalism // Billie Hoard

Tim is joined by Billie Hoard to watch and respond to Libs of TikTok creator Chaya Raichik’s DISASTER of an interview with Taylor Lorenz in what is a masterclass of learning how propaganda words and how empty its rhetoric is.Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more! We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 11, 2024 • 58min

229. What Comes After The White Evangelical Church? // Sarah McCammon

Sarah McCammon discusses leaving the white evangelical church and her book. The podcast explores themes like religious trauma, LGBTQ experiences, race, and science. They debunk the notion of exvangelicals as anti-religion and discuss the impact of the internet on evangelicalism. The rise of Protestantism and the weaponization of religion are also explored.
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Mar 8, 2024 • 36min

228. The Surprising New Data on Christian Nationalism // Tim Whitaker

Delving into the surprising data on Christian nationalism, the podcast explores its support among Americans and correlations with political affiliations. It discusses interpretations in the black community, ties to Trump support, and challenges of engaging with adherents. The hosts also share updates on content strategy, ad revenue, and efforts to combat harmful rhetoric.
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Mar 6, 2024 • 1h 6min

227. The Deconstruction of Christianity? A Book Review // Thomas Jay Oord

SummaryIn this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Thomas Jay Oord discuss the book 'The Deconstruction of Christianity' by Alisa Childers and Tim Barnett. They explore themes such as the concept of objective truth, the ambiguity of scripture, the role of subjectivity in interpretation, the problem of selective objectivity, the complexity of biblical interpretation, the inconsistencies in fundamentalist Christian beliefs, reasons for deconstruction, the inadequate responses to deconstruction, the contradictions in the authors' arguments, the flawed application of a modernist lens, the need for a standard outside of scripture, and the logical conclusion of Jesus' divinity. This conversation explores the problematic arguments presented in the book 'Why I Still Believe' by Tim Barnett and J. P. Moreland. The hosts discuss the weak arguments for Jesus as God and the divinely inspired predictions attributed to him. They also critique the book's emphasis on unquestioning biblical authority and the role of humans in interpreting the Bible. The conversation delves into the fear of questioning authority and the difficulty of leaving a tribe or way of life. The hosts highlight the problematic labeling of deconstructors as "captured" and the either/or approach to love. Thomas Oord also discussed his upcoming book on deconstruction and offers a different perspective on the topic.TakeawaysThe concept of objective truth and the role of subjectivity in interpretation are crucial in understanding deconstruction.The ambiguity of scripture and the complexities of biblical interpretation challenge the idea of a singular, objective truth.The authors' arguments in 'The Deconstruction of Christianity' often lack consistency and fail to address the complexities and nuances of the issues they discuss.The need for a standard outside of scripture and the recognition of the fruit of beliefs are important considerations in evaluating the validity of certain theological claims.The conversation highlights the ongoing challenges and debates surrounding deconstruction and the search for certainty in matters of faith. The arguments presented in 'Why I Still Believe' for Jesus as God and the divinely inspired predictions attributed to him are weak and unconvincing.Questioning biblical authority does not equate to deconstructing it, and it is important to recognize the role of humans in interpreting the Bible.The fear of questioning authority and the difficulty of leaving a tribe or way of life can hinder the process of deconstruction.Love should not be reduced to standing for truth or empathy alone, but should aim for overall well-being and flourishing.There is a need for a book that offers guidance and support to friends and parents of deconstructors, helping them navigate the process with empathy and understanding.Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more! We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 4, 2024 • 50min

226. How Relationships Change Everything // BIll Yoh

SummaryBill Yoh, a member of one of America's wealthiest families, shares his journey from the business world to working in nonprofit and faith-based spaces. Bill emphasizes the importance of faith becoming the central part of life and using his privilege to serve the underserved. TakeawaysEngaging in dialogue and civil discourse is essential for bridging the division in society.Faith can be integrated into business through servant leadership and ensuring just wages for employees.Mission trips can challenge preconceived notions and provide opportunities for personal growth and service.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background02:51 Turning Point: Mom's Passing and Faith Awakening06:08 Moments of Awakening: Overseas Mission Trip and Pandemic09:01 Faith Transformation and Division in Society14:56 Faith in Business and Reconciling Wealth21:01 Mission Trips and Challenging Perceptions22:34 Providing Food and Building Relationships26:12 Charity vs. Systemic Change30:26 Ministry and Evangelism34:22 Philanthropy and Working with People of Means39:37 Best Cheesesteak in PhillyRead Bill Yoh's Book: Unvarnished FaithCheck out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more! We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 1, 2024 • 55min

225. The BIGGEST Factor in the 2024 Election?

Andrew Whitehead joins Tim to talk about the brand new PRRI data on Christian Nationalism and how it will impact this year's 2024 election.Read the report here Support Our Work Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Feb 28, 2024 • 1h 17min

224. Targeted By Libs of TikTok! // Billie Hoard

SummaryIn this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Billie Hoard discuss recent cases of violence against trans people and the hostile environment they face. They highlight the controversial mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral and the case of Next Benedict, a non-binary teenager who died after being bullied. They also explore the role of Christian nationalism and the theology of disgust in perpetuating discrimination against the LGBTQ+ community. The conversation emphasizes the power of disgust in fueling fascism and the social spread of disgust. This conversation explores the concept of disgust and its impact on society, particularly in relation to the LGBTQ+ community. It highlights the contrast between Jesus' acceptance and the Christian disgust towards queer individuals. The conversation emphasizes the importance of the gospel as good news and the need to transform disgust into love and acceptance. It also discusses the power of love and intimacy in decreasing disgust reactions. The conversation delves into the dangers of accounts like Libs of TikTok and the real-world consequences they can have, as demonstrated by Billie's personal experience. Billie shares her personal experience of facing false accusations and a targeted campaign to remove her from her teaching position. The conversation also discusses the misrepresentation of video footage and the dangerous consequences of stigmatizing safe spaces for LGBTQ+ students. The role of Haya, the creator of Libs of TikTok, in shaping educational policies is examined, highlighting the lack of expertise and integrity in her involvement. The conversation emphasizes the importance of standing against Christian nationalism and advocating for comprehensive sex education and queer rights.TakeawaysThe intersection of Christian nationalism and the theology of disgust contributes to the marginalization of the LGBTQ+ community.Addressing the systemic issues that perpetuate violence and discrimination against trans people requires challenging and dismantling Christian nationalist ideologies. Disgust can be a harmful emotion when it is directed towards individuals or groups, particularly the LGBTQ+ community.The gospel should be driving Christians towards inclusion and acceptance, rather than disgust and rejection.Love and intimacy have the power to decrease disgust reactions and foster understanding and acceptance.The misrepresentation of video footage can be used to stigmatize and harm LGBTQ+ individuals and their safe spaces.It is crucial to stand against Christian nationalism and advocate for comprehensive sex education and the rights of queer individuals.Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more! We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Feb 26, 2024 • 60min

223. Living Undivided, Loving Courageously for Racial Healing and Justice // Chuck Mingo and Troy Jackson

SummaryChuck Mingo and Troy Jackson discuss their book, Living Undivided: Loving Courageously for Racial Healing and Justice, and the work they do with Undivided, a nonprofit organization focused on racial justice. They emphasize the importance of relationships, community, and personal transformation in the pursuit of racial healing and justice especially within the church.TakeawaysThe church has a crucial role to play in countering white Christian nationalism and fostering racial healing and justice.Empowering people and helping them move from feeling powerless to claiming power and community is essential for justice.Understanding power and its potential for manipulation and abuse is crucial in the pursuit of racial justice.Moving past debates and taking action is more important than dissecting words and terms.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background03:42 The Journey to Undivided06:26 What is Undivided?08:22 Challenges in Bridging the Gap19:25 The Role of the Church25:20 The Power of Relationships33:03 What is Living Undivided about?37:08 Pragmatic Approaches to Change40:13 The Role of the Church in Racial Injustice42:31 Understanding Power and its Abuses42:50 Resistance to Change in Church Contexts44:18 Creating a Space for Courageous Leadership45:15 Moving Past Debates and Taking Action46:15 Racial Healing and Demonstrating the Way of Jesus47:34 The Future of White Evangelicalism49:43 Opportunities and Risks in Faith Communities50:22 Connecting with the Undivided MovementRead Living Undivided: Loving Courageously for Racial Healing and JusticeCheck out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more! We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Feb 19, 2024 • 1h 14min

222. The Rise and Fall of the Christian Music Industry // Leah Payne, PhD.

SummaryIn this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Leah Payne, PhD. discuss her book, God Gave Rock and Roll to You, that outlines the origins and impact of contemporary Christian music (CCM). They explore the power of music in religious experiences and the potential for manipulation in revivalist moments as well as the complicated relationship with problematic artists and the ethical dilemma of singing their songs. TakeawaysContemporary Christian music (CCM) has a diverse range of genres and subgenres, making it difficult to define and categorize.The use of music in political and nationalist movements can be both inspiring and concerning, as it can rally people around a cause.The Christian music market has become more complex, with different subgroups of  genres.Chapters00:00 Introduction and New Year's Recap06:25 The Book: God Gave Rock and Roll to You09:15 The Origins of Contemporary Christian Music22:23 The Manipulative Potential of Revivalist Moments25:21 The Use of Music in Political and Nationalist Movements29:25 The Complicated Relationship with Problematic Artists36:30 Navigating the Ethical Dilemma of Singing Problematic Songs41:28 The Rise of Worship Bands43:04 The Impact of the Internet on Christian Music56:06 The Influence of Aesthetics on Evangelical Culture59:39 The Decline of Christian Bookstores01:02:28 Where to Find Leah PayneRead Leah Payne's Book: God Gave Rock and Roll to You: A History of Contemporary Christian MusicCheck out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more! We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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