

The New Evangelicals Podcast
Hosted by Tim Whitaker
The New Evangelicals Podcast invites you into bold, thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. Each week our host, Tim Whitaker, speaks with pastors, theologians, scholars, and cultural leaders who are challenging the status quo, confronting Christian Nationalism, and imagining a more inclusive and just world.
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Apr 19, 2024 • 1h 12min
246. TNE RECAPS: Mark Driscoll Needs Therapy
SummaryIn this conversation, Tim and April discuss the recent events involving Josh Howerton and Mark Driscoll. They talk about Josh's apology and the similarities between his apology and another pastor's apology. They also discuss Mark's controversial remarks at the Stronger Men's Conference and his use of the Jezebel spirit trope. The conversation delves into the problematic nature of these actions and the reactions from the audience and online community. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the recent controversy surrounding Mark Driscoll and his involvement in the Stronger Men's Conference. They explore the dynamics of the charismatic world and its tendency to look for demons everywhere, as well as the intersection of Christian nationalism and charismatic beliefs. They also highlight the lack of accountability and the documented legacy of abuse associated with Mark Driscoll. The conversation touches on the internalized misogyny within evangelical circles and the problematic views on women's modesty. They conclude by discussing the recent developments involving John Lindell and his call for Mark Driscoll to repent.TakeawaysApologies should be genuine and not copied from othersUsing the Jezebel spirit trope is sexist and misogynisticMark Driscoll's actions and remarks are calculated and attention-seekingThe reactions from the audience and online community reveal the problematic nature of these actions. The charismatic world is often primed to look for demons everywhere, and this tendency is amplified when combined with Christian nationalist beliefs.Mark Driscoll has a history of abuse and a lack of accountability, yet he continues to gain a following and promote his new book.There is a prevalent issue of internalized misogyny within evangelical circles, with many women defending Mark Driscoll despite his problematic views and treatment of women.John Lindell has called out Mark Driscoll for his actions and has received death threats as a result.The concept of 'modesty' in evangelical circles is often misused and places the burden on women to manage men's thoughts and actions.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Setting07:07 Josh Howerton's Apology and Plagiarism31:26 Mark's Calculated Actions and Reactions43:04 John Lindell's Call for Mark Driscoll to RepentCheck out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 17, 2024 • 57min
245. TNE RESPONDS: This Might Change the Church Forever Pt. 1 // Tim Whitaker and Dan Koch
Tim Whitaker and Dan Koch discuss the upcoming book 'The Widening of God's Mercy' by Richard B. Hayes and its potential impact. They talk about the harm caused by non-affirming positions, strategic implications of the book, and the importance of listening to queer Christian scholars. They explore personal beliefs, integration, and growth, highlighting the complexities of family and media influences.

Apr 15, 2024 • 1h 12min
244. TNE TALKS: Our Unique Moment In American Democracy // Sharon McMahon
Sharon McMahon, author, discusses the importance of pluralism and behaviors over beliefs. She highlights the threats of online harassment, Christian nationalism, and polarization in American politics. Emphasizes the need to prioritize democratic principles and character when voting.

Apr 12, 2024 • 1h 17min
243. TNE RECAPS: Trump Got (Just) ONE Thing Right? // April Ajoy and Tim Whitaker
Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 10, 2024 • 22min
242. TNE RESPONDS: Why You Should Ignore This Pastor's Wedding Advice // Tim Whitaker
SummaryIn this conversation, Tim responds to a viral clip of a mega church pastor giving marriage advice. He critiques the pastor's perspective on marriage, particularly the gendered and stereotypical views that men don't care about weddings and women's bodies belong to their husbands. Tim argues that this mentality wreaks havoc on people, especially women, and promotes unhealthy dynamics in marriages. He also discusses the damaging effects of purity culture and the lack of comprehensive sex education in evangelicalism. Tim concludes by urging for a more mutual and respectful approach to marriage.TakeawaysGendered and stereotypical views in marriage advice can be harmful and promote unhealthy dynamics.Purity culture teachings can lead to unsatisfactory sex lives and unhealthy marriages.Comprehensive sex education and open communication are essential for a healthy and mutual marriage.Mutuality and respect should be prioritized in marriages, rather than rigid gender roles.Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 8, 2024 • 1h 5min
241. TNE TALKS: Flanked by a Brovangelical // Reverend Susan Langner
SummaryIn this conversation, Tim Whitaker interviews Reverend Susan Langner, who was the subject of a YouTube video where a young man confronts her for being a female LGBTQ affirming pastor. They discuss the incident, the challenges of being a woman in ministry, and their different experiences with the Bible. Susan shares her upbringing in a progressive church and the importance of questioning and open-mindedness. They also explore the cultural context of biblical stories and the need for deeper understanding. The conversation highlights the tension between fundamentalist interpretations and more nuanced approaches to faith. In this conversation, Tim and Susan discuss the challenges of interpreting scripture accurately and the cultural assumptions and nuances that can be missed. They explore the impact of fundamentalism and the need for good faith dialogue. They also touch on the experiences of women in ministry and the misogyny and sexism they face. The conversation delves into the themes of deconstruction, the reconciling of conflicting beliefs, and the importance of creating inclusive spaces. They also discuss the power of music in worship and the need for more theologically rich and inclusive songs.TakeawaysThe incident of the YouTube video highlights the challenges faced by women in ministry and the backlash they can receive from more conservative Christians.Susan's upbringing in a progressive church allowed her to question and explore different interpretations of the Bible, leading to a more nuanced understanding of faith.Understanding the cultural context of biblical stories is crucial for a deeper interpretation and can challenge traditional understandings.The tension between fundamentalist interpretations and more open-minded approaches to faith is an ongoing struggle in many religious communities. Interpreting scripture accurately requires an understanding of cultural assumptions and nuances.Fundamentalism often prioritizes owning and destroying opposing arguments rather than engaging in good faith dialogue.Women in ministry frequently face misogyny and sexism, but there are supportive congregations as well.Deconstruction involves questioning and reevaluating beliefs, which can be a painful but liberating process.Creating inclusive spaces and worship experiences is essential for embracing diversity and fostering a sense of belonging.Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 5, 2024 • 1h 4min
240. TNE RECAPS: Christian Visibility Day?! // April Ajoy
April Ajoy joins Tim to discuss negative reviews, prophecy, and harmful stereotypes perpetuated by purity culture. They analyze pastor Josh Howerton's controversial statement about women's roles on their wedding night and the misinformation spread by Christian nationalists. The conversation emphasizes the need for open discussions about sex and relationships, critical thinking, and a more compassionate approach to faith.

Apr 3, 2024 • 1h 49min
239. TNE RESPONDS: Loving Genocide? // Dr. Randal Rauser
SummaryIn this conversation, Tim and Dr. Randal Rauser respond to a video from the Within Reason Podcast hosted by atheist Alex O'Connor, in which he discusses William Lane Craig's defense of the Canaanite slaughter in the Bible. They discuss the moral implications of God commanding the killing of innocent children and the justification of genocide. They also explore the concept of divine command morality and its implications for moral intuitions. The conversation raises questions about the consistency of God's moral commands and the trustworthiness of moral intuition. In this conversation, Tim and Randall discuss the moral implications of God commanding the killing of innocent children in the Bible. They explore the theological justifications offered by William Lane Craig and critique them, highlighting the moral repugnance of such actions. They also discuss the impact on the soldiers who carried out these commands and the potential dangers of interpreting ancient texts literally in a contemporary context. The conversation raises important questions about the nature of morality and the role of religion in shaping ethical beliefs.TakeawaysThe theological justifications offered by William Lane Craig for God commanding the killing of innocent children are morally repugnant.Interpreting ancient texts literally in a contemporary context can lead to dangerous justifications for violence and harm.Religious beliefs need to be critically analyzed along with their implications for moral decision-making.Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 1, 2024 • 2h 3min
238. TNE TALKS: Decolonizing Deconstruction // Janice Lagata and Ashlee
SummaryIn this conversation, Tim, Janice, and Ashlee discuss their origin story and how they connected on social media. They delve into the pitfalls of social media deconstruction content creation, grifters, what healthy accountability looks like, and why caution when choosing who to platform is critical. They also discuss why decolonizing is essential to the work of deconstruction and needs to be prioritized in progressive christian communities.TakeawaysLearning from past mistakes is crucial for personal growth and building healthy relationships.The pitfalls of social media include the pressure to constantly create content and the temptation to monetize and exploit others' pain.Accountability is essential in the online space, and it is important to question the motives and actions of those in positions of influence.Platforming those who have previously caused harm should be approached with nuance, considering the potential for redemption and growth, while also holding individuals accountable for ongoing patterns of harm.Recognize the privilege and power dynamics in content creation, particularly for white men, and actively work to amplify marginalized voices. Decolonization is a process that takes time, and it is important to be open to learning from mistakes and engaging with diverse perspectives.Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 29, 2024 • 56min
237. TNE RECAPS: Trump The Holy Week Bible Salesman // Andrew L. Whitehead
Andrew L. Whitehead and Tim discuss Christian nationalism, Trump's Bible sale, Society for American Civic Renewal's conservative agenda, Project 2025's aims, and themes like power, Christian persecution, Good Friday, and personal interests.


