The New Evangelicals Podcast

Hosted by Tim Whitaker
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May 1, 2024 • 41min

251. TNE RESPONDS: This Might Change the Church Forever Pt. 2 // Rev. Dr. Angela N. Parker

SummaryRev. Dr. Angela N. Parker, a theologian and professor, is interviewed by Tim. They discuss Dr. Parker's work and the upcoming book by Richard Hayes titled:'The Widening of God's Mercy: Sexuality Within the Biblical Story,' which challenges traditional non-affirming views on sexuality and presents an affirming standpoint. Richard Hayes is an influential New Testament scholar known for his work on the faithfulness of Christ. One of his influential books is The Moral Vision of the New Testament, which includes a chapter on homosexuality. The conversation explores the problematic idea of trying to change the sexual orientation of LGBTQIA+ Christians. It discusses the pressure for LGBTQIA+ individuals to conform to a monolithic identity in order to be accepted by churches. The conversation also highlights the dominance of mostly white men in the field of biblical scholarship and the need for diverse perspectives. The conversation discusses the impact of Hayes' earlier teaching against queer affirming theology and the harm caused by his narrow perspectives. The conversation touches on the need for white men to listen to and learn from queer scholars who have already done extensive biblical scholarship. It emphasizes the importance of not overshadowing or dismissing the work of marginalized voices.TakeawaysThe field of biblical scholarship needs more diversity and representationListening to diverse perspectives can help challenge and broaden our understanding of the world Acknowledging and making amends for past harm is an important part of personal growth and repentance.White men should listen to and learn from marginalized voices, particularly queer scholars, who have already done extensive biblical scholarship on queer affirmation.The conversation highlights the need for humility and a willingness to learn and change.The work of white evangelicals should involve fighting against Christian nationalism and working towards justice and equality.We need to critically think about who we invite into our spaces and the perspectives we prioritize.Treating marginalized groups as monolithic is dangerous and perpetuates stereotypes.Living in cognitive dissonance is challenging but can lead to growth and change.There is a need for liberation from hateful rhetoric against LGBTQIA+ individuals within denominations and churches.Flourishing and full participation should be possible for all members of the community.Recognizing and amplifying the work of queer scholars and biblical scholarship is important.Biblical scholarship has a significant impact on shaping Christian culture.Faith should be a catalyst for social justice and dismantling systems of oppression.Follow Rev Dr. Angela N. Parker's work.Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community!If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 29, 2024 • 1h 1min

250. TNE TALKS: The Problem with Criminalizing Addiction // Christina Dent

SummaryChristina Dent, author of the book, Curious: A Foster Mom’s Discovery of an Unexpected Solution to Drug Addiction, shares the journey that changed her perspective on drugs and addiction. Ultimately, it led her to start the organization End It For Good. She discusses the importance of understanding the underlying causes of addiction and the need for a more compassionate and evidence-based approach to drug policy.TakeawaysChanging deeply ingrained beliefs and challenging the status quo can be difficult but necessary.There are financial incentives that perpetuate the current drug policy system.Faith can play a role in shaping one's perspective on addiction and compassion.A more compassionate and evidence-based approach to drug policy is needed. Legal regulation is crucial to ensure consumer safety and reduce crime related to drug addiction.Accessible healthcare, livable wages, and social infrastructure are essential in supporting individuals with addiction.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background02:31 Changing Perspectives on Drugs and Addiction08:19 Challenging the Status Quo in Drug Policy13:16 The Role of Faith in Shaping Perspectives23:46 The Need for a Compassionate and Evidence-Based Approach28:45 Approaching Loved Ones with Addiction31:32 The Ineffectiveness of Arresting Drug Dealers35:29 Addressing Contaminated Drugs through Legal Regulation39:36 The Need for Accessible Healthcare and Livable Wages46:36 Switzerland's Innovative Approaches to Drug AddictionRead Curious by Christina DentCheck out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 26, 2024 • 1h 19min

249. TNE RECAPS: Sean Feucht v. Taylor Swift

SummaryIn this conversation, Tim and April discuss Taylor Swift's new album and the criticism it has received from some conservative Christians. They address the accusations of blasphemy and witchcraft, as well as the critique of explicit lyrics. They also highlight the hypocrisy of supporting Donald Trump while condemning Swift's music. The conversation reveals the subjective nature of art interpretation and the need for self-reflection within religious communities. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the misconceptions and misunderstandings surrounding the concepts of witchcraft, demons, and Christian nationalism. They critique the views of Sean Feucht, a Christian musician and activist, who uses buzzwords like witches and demons without fully understanding their historical and cultural contexts. They also highlight the financial motivations behind Feucht's activism and his association with other controversial figures like Mark Driscoll and Eric Metaxas. The conversation touches on the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the role of Christian Zionism, as well as the harmful effects of fear-based ideologies and the importance of respecting individual beliefs.TakeawaysThe criticism of Taylor Swift's album by conservative Christians reveals the subjective nature of art interpretation.Accusations of blasphemy and witchcraft are based on selective reading and misinterpretation of lyrics.The hypocrisy of supporting Donald Trump while condemning Swift's music exposes the double standards within some religious communities.Misunderstandings and misconceptions about witchcraft and demons are prevalent, often fueled by a lack of historical and cultural context.Some Christian activists, like Sean Feucht, use buzzwords without fully understanding their meanings, leading to misrepresentations and fear-based ideologies.Christian nationalism often promotes a narrow and exclusionary view of Christianity, disregarding the diversity of beliefs within the faith.Respecting individual beliefs and avoiding the imposition of one's own beliefs on others is crucial for fostering understanding and dialogue.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Mispronunciations07:06 Engaging with Different Perspectives on LGBTQ+ Affirmation27:27 Sean Feucht's Urgent Message and Misguided Critiques35:26 The Subjectivity of Art Interpretation and the Need for Self-Reflection45:52 Navigating the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict with Nuance52:56 Respecting Individual Beliefs and Avoiding ImpositionCheck out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 24, 2024 • 37min

248. TNE RESPONDS: Exiles In Babylon Recap // Tim Whitaker

Tim Whitaker, attendee of the Exiles in Babylon conference, recaps the event discussing Israel and Palestine, deconstruction, LGBTQ+ issues, and church politics. He reflects on the controversy surrounding the conference due to non-affirming LGBTQ+ stance. Tim highlights the diversity of speakers and positive conversations that took place.
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Apr 22, 2024 • 1h 3min

247. TNE TALKS: Compassion is Not Political // Bri Stensrud

SummaryBri Stensrud, founder of Women of Welcome, and author of the book, Starts with Welcome: The Journey Toward a Confident and Compassionate Immigration Conversation, discusses her passion for the immigration conversation and how it changed her personal and professional life. Bri reflects on the disconnect between the evangelical culture she grew up in and the reality of the immigration issue, and how it led her to question her faith, politics, and personal life. TakeawaysThe immigration conversation is complex and goes beyond legal and illegal distinctions; it involves understanding the holistic stories of individuals affected by violence, corrupt governments, and civil war.The evangelical culture often prioritizes self-preservation and curated spaces over sacrificially living for others, which can lead to a disconnect between faith and compassionate action.Compassion for immigrants and refugees is not a political stance but a prophetic movement rooted in the teachings of Jesus.Engaging in the immigration conversation requires holding elected officials accountable, advocating for change, and recognizing that no political platform aligns perfectly with pro-immigrant values. Meeting people where they are in their understanding of immigration issues is important for fostering compassion and understanding.Chapters00:00 The Transformative Power of Encounters03:46 The Disconnect Between Evangelical Culture and the Reality of the Immigration Issue08:41 Moving Beyond Legal vs. Illegal12:18 The Need for a Prophetic Movement: Compassion as a Spiritual Responsibility27:53 Compassion and Understanding in Immigration Conversations30:24 Starts with Welcome: A Faith-Filled Perspective on Immigration33:44 Addressing the Broken Immigration System and the Need for Reform41:37 Proximity and Compassion: Essential Elements in Immigration AdvocacyRead Start with Welcome by Bri StensrudCheck out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 19, 2024 • 1h 12min

246. TNE RECAPS: Mark Driscoll Needs Therapy

SummaryIn this conversation, Tim and April discuss the recent events involving Josh Howerton and Mark Driscoll. They talk about Josh's apology and the similarities between his apology and another pastor's apology. They also discuss Mark's controversial remarks at the Stronger Men's Conference and his use of the Jezebel spirit trope. The conversation delves into the problematic nature of these actions and the reactions from the audience and online community. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the recent controversy surrounding Mark Driscoll and his involvement in the Stronger Men's Conference. They explore the dynamics of the charismatic world and its tendency to look for demons everywhere, as well as the intersection of Christian nationalism and charismatic beliefs. They also highlight the lack of accountability and the documented legacy of abuse associated with Mark Driscoll. The conversation touches on the internalized misogyny within evangelical circles and the problematic views on women's modesty. They conclude by discussing the recent developments involving John Lindell and his call for Mark Driscoll to repent.TakeawaysApologies should be genuine and not copied from othersUsing the Jezebel spirit trope is sexist and misogynisticMark Driscoll's actions and remarks are calculated and attention-seekingThe reactions from the audience and online community reveal the problematic nature of these actions. The charismatic world is often primed to look for demons everywhere, and this tendency is amplified when combined with Christian nationalist beliefs.Mark Driscoll has a history of abuse and a lack of accountability, yet he continues to gain a following and promote his new book.There is a prevalent issue of internalized misogyny within evangelical circles, with many women defending Mark Driscoll despite his problematic views and treatment of women.John Lindell has called out Mark Driscoll for his actions and has received death threats as a result.The concept of 'modesty' in evangelical circles is often misused and places the burden on women to manage men's thoughts and actions.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Setting07:07 Josh Howerton's Apology and Plagiarism31:26 Mark's Calculated Actions and Reactions43:04 John Lindell's Call for Mark Driscoll to RepentCheck out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 17, 2024 • 57min

245. TNE RESPONDS: This Might Change the Church Forever Pt. 1 // Tim Whitaker and Dan Koch

Tim Whitaker and Dan Koch discuss the upcoming book 'The Widening of God's Mercy' by Richard B. Hayes and its potential impact. They talk about the harm caused by non-affirming positions, strategic implications of the book, and the importance of listening to queer Christian scholars. They explore personal beliefs, integration, and growth, highlighting the complexities of family and media influences.
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Apr 15, 2024 • 1h 12min

244. TNE TALKS: Our Unique Moment In American Democracy // Sharon McMahon

Sharon McMahon, author, discusses the importance of pluralism and behaviors over beliefs. She highlights the threats of online harassment, Christian nationalism, and polarization in American politics. Emphasizes the need to prioritize democratic principles and character when voting.
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Apr 12, 2024 • 1h 17min

243. TNE RECAPS: Trump Got (Just) ONE Thing Right? // April Ajoy and Tim Whitaker

Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 10, 2024 • 22min

242. TNE RESPONDS: Why You Should Ignore This Pastor's Wedding Advice // Tim Whitaker

SummaryIn this conversation, Tim responds to a viral clip of a mega church pastor giving marriage advice. He critiques the pastor's perspective on marriage, particularly the gendered and stereotypical views that men don't care about weddings and women's bodies belong to their husbands. Tim argues that this mentality wreaks havoc on people, especially women, and promotes unhealthy dynamics in marriages. He also discusses the damaging effects of purity culture and the lack of comprehensive sex education in evangelicalism. Tim concludes by urging for a more mutual and respectful approach to marriage.TakeawaysGendered and stereotypical views in marriage advice can be harmful and promote unhealthy dynamics.Purity culture teachings can lead to unsatisfactory sex lives and unhealthy marriages.Comprehensive sex education and open communication are essential for a healthy and mutual marriage.Mutuality and respect should be prioritized in marriages, rather than rigid gender roles.Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTubeThe New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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