The New Evangelicals Podcast

Hosted by Tim Whitaker
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Jan 19, 2026 • 1h 3min

413. What Exactly IS Progressive Christianity?

In today's episode, Tim Whitaker speaks with Reverend Dr. Caleb J. Lines, a prominent figure in progressive Christianity. They discuss the challenges and opportunities facing modern faith communities, particularly in the context of rising Christian nationalism. Caleb's Website | Calebjlines.com Caleb's Church Staff Page | Uchristianchurch.org Chapters 02:30 The Role of Digital Media in Modern Ministry 12:49 Defining Progressive Christianity 20:39 The Disconnect Between Language and Action in Churches 30:20 The Importance of Storytelling in Faith 39:08 Navigating Accountability in Church Structures 55:17 Addressing Christian Nationalism and Its Implications ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Jan 12, 2026 • 1h 1min

412. Resisting Christian Supremacy with Shameless Theology

In today's episode, Tim Whitaker speaks with Reverend Alba Onofrio, a queer Appalachian Latinx public theologian and activist, shares their journey of faith, identity, and activism. They discuss the intersections of their upbringing, the evolution of their beliefs, and the importance of reclaiming Christianity from the grips of white Christian supremacy. Connect with Rev Alba: Soulforce.org Reverendsex.com Chapters 06:05 The Intersection of Identity and Faith 12:02 Evolving Perspectives on Christianity 24:03 Understanding White Christian Supremacy 35:46 The Importance of Community and Healing 41:49 Soulforce and Its Mission ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Jan 5, 2026 • 1h 5min

411. How To Pastor in the Age of Trump

In today's episode, Tim Whitaker speaks with Cody Deese about his journey from a Southern Baptist upbringing to becoming a progressive Christian leader. They discuss the challenges of navigating faith in a landscape dominated by Christian nationalism, the importance of social justice, and the complexities of maintaining relationships with family members who hold differing political views. Cody's Website | Codydeese.com Chapters 01:25 Cody Daese: A Journey from Fundamentalism to Progressive Christianity 12:35 Navigating Relationships in a Divided America 18:44 The Role of the Church in Social Justice 24:31 Confronting Gun Culture and Nationalism in the Church 30:41 The Evolution of a Spiritual Collective 34:03 Challenging Church Structures and Leadership 52:11 Finding Balance in Activism and Personal Life ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Dec 29, 2025 • 6min

410. Join the Movement

Malynda Hale shares a heartfelt year-end message filled with honesty and gratitude. She emphasizes the vital roles of hope and compassion as antidotes to extremism and fear. Listeners are invited to a live-stream fundraiser on December 30th, aiming for a $30,000 goal to enhance resources and advocacy in 2026. With exciting plans for community building, this discussion reflects a commitment to justice and faith, encouraging everyone to stay engaged and support a better future.
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Dec 22, 2025 • 20min

409. That's a Wrap on 2025. Tim's Thoughts on a Year of Change

In this personal episode, Tim Whitaker reflects on the significant changes and growth experienced throughout the year, both personally and within the New Evangelicals organization. He expresses gratitude to the audience and discusses the evolution of the podcast, the importance of community engagement, and the ongoing fight against Christian nationalism. Chapters 03:00 Organizational Growth and New Directions 05:48 The Future of TNE and Community Engagement 08:57 The Call to Action Against Christian Nationalism 12:13 Gratitude and Looking Ahead ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Dec 15, 2025 • 1h 1min

408. I Used to Work For Turning Point. Here's How I Got Out

Caroline Stout, a former staffer at Turning Point USA, shares her transformative journey from evangelical fundamentalism to a nuanced understanding of faith and politics. She discusses her upbringing in a Houston mega-church and how it shaped her worldview. Caroline reflects on her role in founding a campus chapter and the organization’s shift towards Christian nationalism. She also delves into her political deconstruction and the impact of media on youth recruitment while emphasizing the importance of curiosity in her spiritual rediscovery.
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Dec 8, 2025 • 1h 3min

407. What Changed Our Minds - From Two Former Christian Nationalists

In today's episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a candid conversation with Monte Mader, a musician turned content creator. They explore the challenges and transformations in their personal and professional lives, discussing the impact of Christian nationalism, the journey of deconstruction, and the pursuit of authenticity in faith and life. Monte's Website | Montemader.com Monte's Podcast | Flipping Tables Chapters 03:00 Impact of Christian Nationalism 09:00 Navigating Faith and Politics 15:00 Authenticity and Personal Beliefs 21:00 Challenges of Deconstruction 27:00 Community and Hope for the Future ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Dec 1, 2025 • 1h 17min

406. Modern White Supremacy Traded White Hoods for Red Hats

In today's episode, Tim Whitaker engages engages in an enlightening conversation with public theologian and digital pastor, Kristian A. Smith. The discussion spans various critical themes such as the dangers of Christian nationalism, the importance of economic justice, and the moral imperative to address societal inequities. Kristian's Website | Kristianasmith.com Chapters 03:46 Discussing Christian Nationalism 09:11 The Complexity of Christianity and Social Justice 24:36 Racial Injustice and Historical Context 39:46 Power of Collective Action 40:57 Challenges of Class Solidarity 57:55 Whiteness and Identity Crisis 01:03:42 Biblical Perspectives on Wealth and Morality 01:09:26 Final Thoughts and Call to Action ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 24, 2025 • 1h 3min

405. How to Die with Josh Porter

In today's episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Josh Porter, author of 'How to Die: Chaos, Mortality, and the Scandal of Christian Discipleship.' They explore the complexities of Christian discipleship, the rejection of Christian nationalism, and the importance of inclusivity within the faith. Josh's Website | Joshuasporter.com Chapters 06:14 The Premise of 'How to Die' and Christian Discipleship 11:44 Navigating Christian Nationalism and Cultural Contexts 20:41 Understanding Christian Discipleship in Modern Times 27:52 The Complexity of Queer Inclusion in Christianity 34:13 Orthodoxy and the Evolution of Beliefs 51:43 Bringing Heaven to Earth: A Call to Action ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 17, 2025 • 1h 9min

404. MAGA Isn't Afraid of Trans People. It's Disgusted By Them

In today's episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a conversation with Billie and Paul Hoard about their new book Eucontamination. The discussion dives into the theory of disgust and the innovative concept of 'good contamination,' describing how Jesus is seen as a transformative contaminant for good. They explore how disgust influences societal behaviors, particularly within evangelical circles, and how Jesus' embrace of those considered 'impure' subverts traditional notions of purity. Billie and Paul's Book | ⁠Eucontamination⁠ Chapters 08:13 Understanding Disgust from a Psychological Perspective 14:52 Sociological and Political Implications of Disgust 18:29 Jesus as the Good Contaminant 34:23 The Paradox of Holiness and Worldly Contamination 35:21 The Role of the Church in Spreading Goodness 35:41 Personal Reflections on Faith and Community 43:32 The Challenge of Embracing New Experiences 57:56 Final Thoughts and Theological Insights____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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