

The New Evangelicals Podcast
Hosted by Tim Whitaker
The New Evangelicals Podcast invites you into bold, thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. Each week our host, Tim Whitaker, speaks with pastors, theologians, scholars, and cultural leaders who are challenging the status quo, confronting Christian Nationalism, and imagining a more inclusive and just world.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Feb 9, 2026 • 1h 15min
416. Being a Black Pastor in White America
Reverend Darrell Hamilton, a Black pastor and theologian focused on Black liberation theology and pastoral leadership, discusses enemy love, grace in disagreement, and navigating faith amid politicized divisions. He examines the fire of deconstruction, the Black church’s role as refuge and moral compass, and why solidarity with the marginalized must shape Christian witness.

Feb 2, 2026 • 59min
415. The Antidote to White Christian Nationalism: Black Liberation Theology
In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages with Dr. Adam Clark to explore the profound themes of Black Liberation Theology, its historical roots, and its relevance in today's socio-political landscape. They discuss the teachings of James Cone, the significance of understanding Christ through the lens of liberation, and the ongoing struggle for social justice.
Chapters
03:03 The Historical Context of Black Theology
08:50 Understanding Christ in Black Theology
15:01 The Role of the Church in Resistance
21:05 The Future of White Evangelicalism
27:10 Conclusion and Call to Action
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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com
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Jan 26, 2026 • 57min
414. Living a Turned On Lifestyle
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker speaks with Pastor Kimberly Bulgin who shares her transformative journey from traditional ministry to empowering women to break free from patriarchy, sexual shame, and church abuse. She discusses her mission to help women reclaim their faith and navigate their relationships with God and themselves in a healthy, joyful way.
Kim's Facebook Page
Chapters
01:39 Pastor Kim's Journey: From Music Teacher to Senior Pastor
07:42 Transitioning from Traditional Ministry to Empowering Women
11:35 Reclaiming Faith: Navigating Church Hurt and Patriarchy
26:09 Navigating Sexual Ethics: From Purity Culture to Healthy Relationships
37:16 The Sisters Stay Dropping Gems: A New Perspective on Women in the Bible
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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com
Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals
Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 19, 2026 • 1h 3min
413. What Exactly IS Progressive Christianity?
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker speaks with Reverend Dr. Caleb J. Lines, a prominent figure in progressive Christianity. They discuss the challenges and opportunities facing modern faith communities, particularly in the context of rising Christian nationalism.
Caleb's Website | Calebjlines.com
Caleb's Church Staff Page | Uchristianchurch.org
Chapters
02:30 The Role of Digital Media in Modern Ministry
12:49 Defining Progressive Christianity
20:39 The Disconnect Between Language and Action in Churches
30:20 The Importance of Storytelling in Faith
39:08 Navigating Accountability in Church Structures
55:17 Addressing Christian Nationalism and Its Implications
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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com
Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals
Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 12, 2026 • 1h 1min
412. Resisting Christian Supremacy with Shameless Theology
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker speaks with Reverend Alba Onofrio, a queer Appalachian Latinx public theologian and activist, shares their journey of faith, identity, and activism. They discuss the intersections of their upbringing, the evolution of their beliefs, and the importance of reclaiming Christianity from the grips of white Christian supremacy.
Connect with Rev Alba:
Soulforce.org
Reverendsex.com
Chapters
06:05 The Intersection of Identity and Faith
12:02 Evolving Perspectives on Christianity
24:03 Understanding White Christian Supremacy
35:46 The Importance of Community and Healing
41:49 Soulforce and Its Mission
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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com
Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals
Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 5, 2026 • 1h 5min
411. How To Pastor in the Age of Trump
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker speaks with Cody Deese about his journey from a Southern Baptist upbringing to becoming a progressive Christian leader. They discuss the challenges of navigating faith in a landscape dominated by Christian nationalism, the importance of social justice, and the complexities of maintaining relationships with family members who hold differing political views.
Cody's Website | Codydeese.com
Chapters
01:25 Cody Daese: A Journey from Fundamentalism to Progressive Christianity
12:35 Navigating Relationships in a Divided America
18:44 The Role of the Church in Social Justice
24:31 Confronting Gun Culture and Nationalism in the Church
30:41 The Evolution of a Spiritual Collective
34:03 Challenging Church Structures and Leadership
52:11 Finding Balance in Activism and Personal Life
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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com
Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals
Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 29, 2025 • 6min
410. Join the Movement
Malynda Hale shares a heartfelt year-end message filled with honesty and gratitude. She emphasizes the vital roles of hope and compassion as antidotes to extremism and fear. Listeners are invited to a live-stream fundraiser on December 30th, aiming for a $30,000 goal to enhance resources and advocacy in 2026. With exciting plans for community building, this discussion reflects a commitment to justice and faith, encouraging everyone to stay engaged and support a better future.

Dec 22, 2025 • 20min
409. That's a Wrap on 2025. Tim's Thoughts on a Year of Change
In this personal episode, Tim Whitaker reflects on the significant changes and growth experienced throughout the year, both personally and within the New Evangelicals organization. He expresses gratitude to the audience and discusses the evolution of the podcast, the importance of community engagement, and the ongoing fight against Christian nationalism.
Chapters
03:00 Organizational Growth and New Directions
05:48 The Future of TNE and Community Engagement
08:57 The Call to Action Against Christian Nationalism
12:13 Gratitude and Looking Ahead
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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com
Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals
Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 15, 2025 • 1h 1min
408. I Used to Work For Turning Point. Here's How I Got Out
Caroline Stout, a former staffer at Turning Point USA, shares her transformative journey from evangelical fundamentalism to a nuanced understanding of faith and politics. She discusses her upbringing in a Houston mega-church and how it shaped her worldview. Caroline reflects on her role in founding a campus chapter and the organization’s shift towards Christian nationalism. She also delves into her political deconstruction and the impact of media on youth recruitment while emphasizing the importance of curiosity in her spiritual rediscovery.

Dec 8, 2025 • 1h 3min
407. What Changed Our Minds - From Two Former Christian Nationalists
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a candid conversation with Monte Mader, a musician turned content creator. They explore the challenges and transformations in their personal and professional lives, discussing the impact of Christian nationalism, the journey of deconstruction, and the pursuit of authenticity in faith and life.
Monte's Website | Montemader.com
Monte's Podcast | Flipping Tables
Chapters
03:00 Impact of Christian Nationalism
09:00 Navigating Faith and Politics
15:00 Authenticity and Personal Beliefs
21:00 Challenges of Deconstruction
27:00 Community and Hope for the Future
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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com
Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals
Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


