

The New Evangelicals Podcast
Hosted by Tim Whitaker
The New Evangelicals Podcast invites you into bold, thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. Each week our host, Tim Whitaker, speaks with pastors, theologians, scholars, and cultural leaders who are challenging the status quo, confronting Christian Nationalism, and imagining a more inclusive and just world.
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Oct 27, 2025 • 57min
401. Political Scientist Dr. Nola Haynes Explains the MAGA problem
 In today's episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a conversation with Dr. Nola Haynes discussing the critical aspects of space security, emphasizing the need for ethical diplomacy in national security. The conversation delves into the implications of Christian nationalism, the role of media in shaping public discourse, and the security concerns posed by extremism. 
https://www.cnas.org/people/nola-haynes
Chapters
05:27 The Ethics of Diplomacy in National Security
12:32 The Role of Media in Shaping Public Discourse
21:30 The Cult-like Nature of Political Ideologies
36:32 The Intersection of Technology and Social Media
42:18 The Global Impact of Nationalism and Racism
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TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com 
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Oct 20, 2025 • 56min
400. The Separation of Church and Hate
 In today's episode, Tim interviews John Fugelsang, author of 'The Separation of Church and Hate.' They discuss John's upbringing in a Catholic household, the hijacking of Christianity by fundamentalists, and the challenges of engaging with those who hold extremist views. The conversation also touches on the role of media in shaping perceptions of Christianity, the impact of Trump on evangelicalism, and the importance of shared values in combating Christian nationalism. John emphasizes the need for Christians to return to the teachings of Jesus and to advocate for love and compassion in society.
John's Book | Separation of Church and Hate: A Sane Person's Guide to Taking Back the Bible from Fundamentalists, Fascists, and Flock-Fleecing Frauds
John on Twitter | @Johnfugelsang
Chapters
02:45 John's Background and Early Influences
08:29 Engaging with Fundamentalism
14:47 Cognitive Dissonance in Evangelicalism
20:42 The Challenge of Critical Thinking in Faith
38:30 The Role of Media in Shaping Narratives
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 

Oct 13, 2025 • 1h 5min
399. Using Comedy to Heal from My Fundamentalist Upbringing
 In this episode, comedian Jeremy Alder shares his journey from a conservative evangelical upbringing to navigating the complexities of faith, community, and politics. He discusses the challenges of growing up in a sheltered environment, the process of deconstructing his beliefs, and the role of humor in coping with trauma. 
Jeremy's Website | Jeremyalder.com
Chapters
06:31 The Journey of Deconstruction
14:17 Exploring the New Monasticism Movement
27:18 The Role of Comedy in Processing Trauma
34:04 The Role of Comedy in Healing
40:23 The Betrayal of Evangelical Values
48:31 The Challenge of Truth in Disinformation
53:09 Finding a Path Forward Through Humor
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 

Oct 6, 2025 • 53min
398. Better Ways to Read the Bible
 In today's episode, Tim engages in a profound conversation with Pastor Zach Lambert about his book, 'Better Ways to Read the Bible.' They explore the complexities of interpreting the Bible, especially in light of its historical misuse as a tool for oppression. 
Zach's Book | Better Ways to Read the Bible
Zach's Substack | Zachwlambert.substack.com
Chapters
01:29 Navigating the Complexity of the Bible
13:56 Weaponization of Scripture
20:30 The Apocalypse Lens and Its Implications
30:02 Healthy Lenses for Biblical Interpretation
40:00 Resisting Christian Nationalism
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If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 

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Sep 29, 2025 • 1h 13min
397. Why You Should Leave Total Depravity Behind with Mako Nagasawa
 Mako Nagasawa, founder and director of the Anastasis Center, shares profound insights on restorative justice and healing atonement, challenging traditional views on penal substitution. Joined by community moderator Stephen, they explore personal deconstruction journeys, the complexities of faith, and how parenting reveals tensions within punitive theology. Mako emphasizes that repentance must involve repair, not just forgiveness, and advocates for a restorative approach to justice that lowers recidivism and fosters understanding in a polarized society. 

Sep 22, 2025 • 59min
396. Exploring the Open Bible with Philip Nation
 Philip Nation, Vice President and Publisher of Thomas Nelson Bibles, shares his insights on the complexities of biblical texts in modern faith. He discusses the potential for the Bible to be both a tool for good and a weapon, the evolution and relevance of study Bibles, and the impact of various translations. Philip emphasizes the importance of transparency in biblical scholarship and highlights the NET Bible's approach. He also offers guidance for those looking to reconnect with Scripture, suggesting starting with themes of peace and the Book of Psalms. 

Sep 15, 2025 • 1h 35min
395. Shame-Sex Attraction with Lucas Wilson
 In today's episode, Tim engages in a deep conversation with Lucas Wilson, an expert on conversion therapy and its effects on LGBTQ+ individuals. They explore Wilson's personal journey through faith, the impact of Holocaust research on his beliefs, and the complexities of modern Christian nationalism. 
Lucas on Instagram | @Lukeslamdunkwilson
Chapters
09:00 The Journey of Acceptance and Self-Realization
18:53 The Problem of Evil and Theological Perspectives
30:00 The Role of Power in Evangelicalism
39:59 The Intersection of Theology and Politics
50:17 Projection and Moral Relativism in Evangelicalism
01:06:19 Christian Zionism: A Double-Edged Sword
01:15:07 The Role of Narrative in Changing Minds
01:28:10 The Importance of Storytelling in Advocacy
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 

Sep 8, 2025 • 46min
394. How We're Building a Better Path Forward with Tim Whitaker and Malynda Hale
 Malynda Hale, executive director of The New Evangelicals and a professional vocalist, joins Tim Whitaker for a compelling discussion on faith and community. They explore the evolution of the organization and the meaning behind 'New Evangelicals', inspired by a desire for inclusivity. Malynda shares her experiences in the AME tradition and how they contrast with white evangelicalism. Together, they envision a future of justice-oriented Christianity, emphasizing love and compassion as core values. 

Sep 1, 2025 • 6min
The New Season
 We'll see you next week with our regular release!
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 

Aug 25, 2025 • 1h 24min
Best of TNE: Israel and Palestine Pt 1: Blame the British!
 Original Episode #176 | Understanding Israel and Palestine Pt 1: Blame the British
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices 


