Enneagram and Marriage

Christa Hardin, MA
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Jul 1, 2025 • 16min

Breaking Chains: Independence from Old Marriage Patterns

Sometimes the most powerful chains in marriage are the ones we can't see. In this transformative episode, discover how to identify and break free from the four invisible patterns that keep couples stuck: the Scorekeeper Chain (mental tallies and resentment), the Mind-Reading Chain (expecting partners to anticipate needs), the Perfection Chain (redoing your partner's efforts), or any past-pattern fun/blindly following family-of-origin habits. Through real couple success stories and practical tools, learn how awareness + compassion + choice + action equals true relationship freedom. Stop fighting each other and start fighting the patterns that bind you both - because the strongest marriages aren't perfect, they're free. Head on over to ⁠https://www.enneagramandmarriage.com/⁠ to check out all of our amazing freebies and resources! Instagram: ⁠@enneagramandmarriage⁠ | ⁠Facebook @ enneagramandmarriage ⁠ Have a specific question? ⁠⁠Fill out this form to get your personal questions answered now! ⁠⁠ Leave us a comment or question by sending an MP4 recording to enneagramandmarriage@gmail.com. (You can use your voice memos app on your iPhone to record). Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too⁠ here!⁠ Find some of our summer fun mystery games at www.SupperSleuths.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jun 30, 2025 • 53min

When Addiction Enters the Marriage: Jimmy & Irene Rollins (7-9) on Breaking Cycles & Finding Healing

In this powerful episode, former megachurch pastors Jimmy and Irene Rollins share their raw journey from a marriage that was "surviving, not thriving" to genuine transformation after addiction threatened everything they'd built. For fifteen years, the couple maintained a thriving public ministry while privately struggling—Irene battling alcohol addiction and Jimmy confronting generational patterns of dysfunction—until their 2015 breaking point forced them to seek authentic healing. Through an Enneagram lens, we explore how different personality types experience addiction, support recovery, and establish healthy boundaries. The founders of TWO=ONE Marriage Ministry offer rare insight into creating safety for vulnerability, maintaining hope during crisis, and rebuilding trust after betrayal. Their story illuminates how true connection emerges only when we risk complete honesty, making this essential listening for anyone navigating addiction in relationships or seeking to transform any marriage from functional to flourishing. Watch on YouTube! Follow the Rollins here on their website! https://www.twoequalsone.com/ Follow Irene, type 9 on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/irenerollins/?hl=en Follow Jimmy, type 7 on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamjimmyrollins/?hl=en For the Enneagram & Marriage membership, click here! https://www.enneagramandmarriage.com/membership Head on over to ⁠https://www.enneagramandmarriage.com/⁠ to check out all of our amazing freebies and resources! Instagram: ⁠@enneagramandmarriage⁠ | ⁠Facebook @ enneagramandmarriage ⁠ Have a specific question? ⁠⁠Fill out this form to get your personal questions answered now! ⁠⁠ Leave us a comment or question by sending an MP4 recording to enneagramandmarriage@gmail.com. (You can use your voice memos app on your iPhone to record). Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too⁠ here!⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jun 30, 2025 • 42min

What Tolkien's Middle Earth Teach Us About Relationships w/Phil Nation, 4, Thomas Nelson

What can hobbits, elves, and the wisdom of Middle-earth teach us about relationships? In this special conversation, Christa sits down with Philip Nation, publisher at Thomas Nelson and lifelong Tolkien enthusiast, to explore the profound relationship wisdom hidden within J.R.R. Tolkien's beloved stories. From the faithful friendship of Sam and Frodo to Tolkien's own enduring relationships with family and friends, this episode uncovers timeless principles for building lasting connections. Philip shares how Tolkien's conceptualization of good and evil in every person and the "Gollum in all of us" can both humble us and also draw us back into the light of healthy fellowship in redemption. Watch on YouTube! You'll discover how themes of sacrificial love, patient perseverance, and unexpected grace from The Lord of the Rings and across Middle Earth offer hope and practical wisdom for real-world connections. Perfect for Tolkien fans, literature lovers, and anyone seeking deeper meaning in their relationships - whether romantic, family, or friendship. Includes book recommendations, insights from Tolkien's approach to relationships, and how beauty, truth, and goodness can strengthen all your important connections. Book recommendations in this episode: The Hobbit: https://a.co/d/2WjAMOA Lord of the Rings: https://a.co/d/e3dYL4v The Proverbs of Middle Earth: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0999591401?ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_QVSYCRNNZADVJC737YW2&bestFormat=true The Letters of JRR Tolkien: https://a.co/d/73lAT0U The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde: https://a.co/d/3Kitwsb Visit www.EnneagramandMarriage.com for more! Head on over to ⁠https://www.enneagramandmarriage.com/⁠ to check out all of our amazing freebies and resources! Instagram: ⁠@enneagramandmarriage⁠ | ⁠Facebook @ enneagramandmarriage ⁠ Have a specific question? ⁠⁠Fill out this form to get your personal questions answered now! ⁠⁠ Leave us a comment or question by sending an MP4 recording to enneagramandmarriage@gmail.com. (You can use your voice memos app on your iPhone to record). Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too⁠ here!⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jun 26, 2025 • 47min

Beyond Stereotypes: Understanding The Higher-Desire Wife w/Author & Speaker J. Parker

In today's episode, we challenge the common assumption that men always want more sex than women in marriage. Join us as we speak with J. Parker, author of "The Higher-Desire Wife," about the estimated 25% of marriages where wives have a higher sex drive at various seasons of marriage. We explore multiple causes of mismatched desire beyond stereotypes, from hormonal factors to relational dynamics, and discuss practical strategies for navigating these differences with compassion. This episode brings validation and hope to women and men who have felt isolated, bewildered, or ashamed of their sexual desires or lack thereof while offering insights for all couples experiencing desire discrepancies in their marriages. Watch on YouTube Get J's book, The Higher Desire Wife" here: https://a.co/d/boAliTx Visit J's website: https://hotholyhumorous.com/https://hotholyhumorous.com/https://www.hotholyhumorous.com Head on over to ⁠https://www.enneagramandmarriage.com/⁠ to check out all of our amazing freebies and resources! Instagram: ⁠@enneagramandmarriage⁠ | ⁠Facebook @ enneagramandmarriage ⁠ Have a specific question? ⁠⁠Fill out this form to get your personal questions answered now! ⁠⁠ Leave us a comment or question by sending an MP4 recording to enneagramandmarriage@gmail.com. (You can use your Voice Memos app on your iPhone to record.) Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too⁠ , here!⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jun 25, 2025 • 15min

Masculine Strength, Feminine Strength: What Your Personality Type Reveals About Both

Here in this E + M mini, Christa explores the concepts of masculinity and femininity, as well as the tendency of certain types to lean toward different qualities, and how understanding this can transform your marriage dynamics. Learn which qualities come naturally to your type, which ones you might need to develop, and how accessing both strength and tenderness both offers us more resilient, balanced partnerships. Whether you're a Type 8 learning vulnerable collaboration or a Type 2 developing assertive boundaries, this episode offers practical insights for becoming more integrated, healthy, and awake in your relationships. Head on over to ⁠https://www.enneagramandmarriage.com/⁠ to check out all of our amazing freebies and resources! Instagram: ⁠@enneagramandmarriage⁠ | ⁠Facebook @ enneagramandmarriage ⁠ Have a specific question? ⁠⁠Fill out this form to get your personal questions answered now! ⁠⁠ Leave us a comment or question by sending an MP4 recording to enneagramandmarriage@gmail.com. (You can use your voice memos app on your iPhone to record). Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too⁠ here!⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jun 23, 2025 • 48min

The Allender Center's Rachael Clinton Chen, 2: Hope and Healing for Couples After Spiritual Trauma

Join Christa for a crucial conversation with Rachel Clinton Chen, MDiv and faculty at The Allender Center, about spiritual abuse and its unique impact on marriages. Rachel brings both professional expertise and Type 2 heart-centered wisdom to this difficult but necessary topic. Discover how spiritual abuse differs from general church hurt, the specific challenges it creates for couples when one spouse's faith is shaken while the other's remains intact, and how partners can support each other's healing without minimizing their experience. Rachel shares insights on rebuilding trust in your own perceptions, navigating intimacy after spiritual trauma, and finding hope for post-traumatic growth. Whether you've experienced spiritual abuse yourself, are supporting someone who has, or want to better understand this critical issue, this conversation offers validation, practical guidance, and hope for the healing journey. Rachel's marriage to Reverend Michael (a beautiful 2-9 pairing) provides unique perspective on how couples can walk through spiritual trauma together while protecting their relationship during vulnerable seasons. Rachel has graciously offered our listeners 20% off The Allender Center's Spiritual Abuse & Healing Online Course here with code enneagrammarriage20 through December 2025. https://theallendercenter.org/offerings/online-courses/spiritual-abuse-and-healing/ Check out The Allender Center Podcast here, https://theallendercenter.org/category/podcast/ Find other courses and connections at The Allender Center at The Seattle School here: https://theallendercenter.org/ Find Rachel Clinton-Chen on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rachaelclintonchen/?hl=en Head on over to ⁠https://www.enneagramandmarriage.com/⁠ to check out all of our amazing freebies and resources! Instagram: ⁠@enneagramandmarriage⁠ | ⁠Facebook @ enneagramandmarriage ⁠ Have a specific question? ⁠⁠Fill out this form to get your personal questions answered now! ⁠⁠ Leave us a comment or question by sending an MP4 recording to enneagramandmarriage@gmail.com. (You can use your voice memos app on your iPhone to record). Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too⁠ here!⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jun 18, 2025 • 43min

From The Chosen to Family Films: Nathan & D'Lytha Myers on Technology, Parenting, and Creative Collaboration, 4-5 Pairing

Join us for an inspiring conversation with filmmakers Nathan (Type 4) and D'Lytha (Type 5) Myers as they share their unique journey of marriage, parenting, and creating meaningful entertainment together. Nathan, known for his work on The Chosen and now running Grafted Studios, brings passionate creativity, while D'Lytha offers thoughtful wisdom. Together, they've created the award-winning film "Aria Appleton Shines," which tackles technology's impact on children and parental authority through the spunky and realistically spirited Gen Z/Alpha Gen Aria Appleton and her friends. Discover not only tech tips and more about the new movie, but also about how this couple's different Enneagram types create beautiful synergy in their marriage and creative partnership, how they navigate homeschooling decisions and running a production company together, and their approach to protecting children from unhealthy technology while embracing creative media. Whether you're interested in Enneagram dynamics in marriage, navigating technology with kids, or supporting faith-based entertainment, this conversation offers practical wisdom from a couple living out their values creatively and intentionally! Watch on YouTube! Watch the BRAND NEW award-winning film 'Aria Appleton Shines' and discover how this powerful story is helping families navigate technology with wisdom and intention. Film Website: https://www.ariaappleton.com/  Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/ariaappletonfilm/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ariaappleton/?hl=en Head on over to ⁠https://www.enneagramandmarriage.com/⁠ to check out all of our amazing freebies and resources! Instagram: ⁠@enneagramandmarriage⁠ | ⁠Facebook @ enneagramandmarriage ⁠ Have a specific question? ⁠⁠Fill out this form to get your personal questions answered now! ⁠⁠ Leave us a comment or question by sending an MP4 recording to enneagramandmarriage@gmail.com. (You can use your voice memos app on your iPhone to record). Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too⁠ here!⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jun 16, 2025 • 45min

Tenth Avenue North’s Mike Donehey, Type 4: Bringing Light to Dark Seasons of Life

What does it mean to bring light to the darkest seasons of life and faith? In this deeply moving post-Father’s Day episode, Mike Donehey, lead singer of the reunited Tenth Avenue North, shares the heart behind their new album “Learning to Trust.” As a social Type 4 married to a Type 2, Mike demonstrates the courage to go to those dark feelings, sit with them, and grapple with them honestly—both in his music and his marriage. The album, which explores “the midnight hour in a person’s faith,” was born from personal family struggles, including his 12-year-old daughter hitting rock bottom with anxiety and his own journey of learning to trust God when you can’t see the path ahead. Mike opens up about how their lead song “Running with You in the Dark” captures the essence of moving forward with faith through uncertain seasons, and how influences like Jay Stringer’s work on sexuality and faith have shaped their music. Whether you’re walking through your own dark season, supporting your spouse through difficult times, or learning what it means to trust when life feels uncertain, this conversation offers both vulnerability and hope, with beautiful songs and timeless truths to guide you through. Find the album here on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/0G3VRMNpInROdMyGAabE0t Find the band here: https://www.tenthavenuenorth.com/ Follow Mike with 300K others here on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikedonehey/?hl=en Follow Tenth Avenue North on IG https://www.instagram.com/tenthavenuenorth/?hl=en Head on over to ⁠https://www.enneagramandmarriage.com/⁠ to check out all of our amazing freebies and resources! Instagram: ⁠@enneagramandmarriage⁠ | ⁠Facebook @ enneagramandmarriage ⁠ Have a specific question? ⁠⁠Fill out this form to get your personal questions answered now! ⁠⁠ Leave us a comment or question by sending an MP4 recording to enneagramandmarriage@gmail.com. (You can use your voice memos app on your iPhone to record). Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too⁠ here!⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jun 11, 2025 • 15min

When Emotions Are High: How to Self-Soothe in Relationships

When emotions run high in relationships, knowing how to self-soothe can make the difference between connection and disconnection. In this practical mini-episode, we explore a few way each instinctual variant, Self-Preservation, Social, and Sexual/One-to-One, approaches calming when feelings are intense. We also break down a bit further to designate heart types of each instinctual variant needing emotional safety, head types seeking mental clarity, and body types requiring physical grounding. In this mini-show, let Christa guide you to just a few ways you'll discover specific techniques that strengthen rather than strain your relationship so you can truly come back as healthily differentiated partners, rather than staying in the wounding together. For more relationship help or to sign up with an E + M Coach or affiliate, visit www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Head on over to ⁠https://www.enneagramandmarriage.com/⁠ to check out all of our amazing freebies and resources! Instagram: ⁠@enneagramandmarriage⁠ | ⁠Facebook @ enneagramandmarriage ⁠ Have a specific question? ⁠⁠Fill out this form to get your personal questions answered now! ⁠⁠ Leave us a comment or question by sending an MP4 recording to enneagramandmarriage@gmail.com. (You can use your voice memos app on your iPhone to record). Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too⁠ here!⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jun 9, 2025 • 57min

Stories In Our Struggles: Terry Real's RLT Approach to Conflict with Zach Brittle, 8 (8-2 Pairing)

What if the key to a stronger marriage isn't avoiding conflict, but learning to dig in and work through difficult moments? In this practical episode, marriage therapist and relational life therapist Zach Brittle, 8 brings over a decade of professional wisdom combined with personal insights from his Type 8-Type 2 marriage. Host of the popular Marriage Therapy Radio Podcast, Zach shares his gifted perspective on the stories that often lie beneath our relationship struggles and offers Terry Real's RLT (Relational Life Therapy) tips and a powerful 4-part formula you can use for getting unstuck again and again whenever conflict hits. As a Type 8 married to a Type 2, he opens up about how even two passionate types can learn to navigate tension in healthy ways, emphasizing that conflict isn't something to fear but a pathway to deeper connection. Whether you're afraid of rocking the boat or tend to dive headfirst into disagreements, Zach's blend of therapeutic expertise and real-life vulnerability offers hope and practical strategies for working through the messy, beautiful work of marriage. Follow Zach here on his website: https://zachbrittle.com/ Follow Zach at Marriage Therapy Radio here: https://marriagetherapyradio.com/ Find Zach on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/marriagetherapyradio/?hl=en Miss the Subtypes EnneaSummit? Get the all-access pass to the Enneasummit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here! https://www.tylerzach.com/subtypes/enneasummit-aap?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tylerzach.com%2Fa%2F2148111986%2FLS2nNmzL⁠⁠ Head on over to ⁠https://www.enneagramandmarriage.com/⁠ to check out all of our amazing freebies and resources! Instagram: ⁠@enneagramandmarriage⁠ | ⁠Facebook @ enneagramandmarriage ⁠ Have a specific question? ⁠⁠Fill out this form to get your personal questions answered now! ⁠⁠ Leave us a comment or question by sending an MP4 recording to enneagramandmarriage@gmail.com. (You can use your voice memos app on your iPhone to record). Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too⁠ here!⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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