
By The Horns: A Chicago Bulls Show
Welcome to By The Horns, a podcast covering the Chicago Bulls. Hosted by Chicagoans Camron Smith and Drew Stevens. We’ll bring you the latest updates along with guest interviews and breaking news. Episodes are released every Tuesday and Thursday.
Latest episodes

Jul 5, 2024 • 49min
Unraveling the Future: Zach LaVine’s and DeMar DeRozan’s Uncertain Paths
On the latest Bulls Talk Podcast, K.C. Johnson, Kevin Anderson and Tony Gill dive into Zach LaVine's and DeMar DeRozan's intertwined futures. They discuss the currently dwindling options for both players (3:25) and the chances they might not be on the roster by opening night (4:51). Insights from NBA agent Rich Paul defending LaVine's professionalism (7:31) and the Bulls' struggle to get traction on trading LaVine (17:38) are explored. The hosts also discuss DeRozan's lack of a contract (31:00) and whether he could return to the Bulls (36:32). Lastly, they ponder Nikola Vucevic’s fate if both stars leave (45:35). Don't miss this episode packed with insider information and critical analysis!

Jul 1, 2024 • 29min
Are the Bulls rebuilding or retooling? Plus, big trade rumors and salary cap problems
Join hosts K.C. Johnson and Kevin Anderson as they dive into the latest Chicago Bulls buzz! This episode kicks off with the Bulls signing Jalen Smith to a 3-year, $27 million deal (0:39). The Bulls are targeting young, proven NBA talent (2:00), with Jalen Smith potentially serving as insurance for a Vooch trade (2:52). The conversation then shifts to the team's youth movement (4:22) and the possibility of DeMar DeRozan heading to the Clippers following Paul George's departure (6:28). K.C. speculates on DeRozan’s future with the Bulls (8:13), while Kevin warns of the salary cap dangers with both DeRozan and LaVine on the roster (10:32). K.C. discusses the Bulls' struggle to trade Zach LaVine (12:00), the potential need to let DeRozan walk if LaVine stays (16:58), and the team's dilemma between the two stars (18:55). The episode wraps up with a discussion on whether the Bulls are rebuilding or retooling (21:00) and the surprise of Torrey Craig picking up his player option (23:00).

Jun 27, 2024 • 37min
Chicago Bulls select Matas Buzelis 11th overall in 2024 NBA Draft
In this episode of the Bulls Talk Podcast, K.C. Johnson and Tony Gill dive into the Bulls' latest draft pick, Matas Buzelis. They discuss if this marks the beginning of a youth movement by GM Artūras Karnišovas (0:30), break down Buzelis’ strengths and weaknesses (4:30) and explore why he was still available at the 11th pick (7:20). The duo also reacts to Karnišovas' comments on the Alex Caruso for Josh Giddey trade and his pursuit of Giddey over draft picks (20:26). Additionally, they analyze the Bulls' shift in strategy regarding DeMar DeRozan, now seen as an option rather than a priority (25:00). Finally, K.C. and Tony provide injury updates on Patrick Williams, Zach LaVine, and whether Lonzo Ball will be ready for training camp (30:00). Don't miss this episode packed with insights and updates!

Jun 24, 2024 • 34min
How will Josh Giddey impact the Bulls and Zach LaVine’s future?
In this episode of the Bulls Talk Podcast, K.C. Johnson and Tony Gill dive deep into the latest buzz surrounding the Bulls. They explore Zach LaVine's trade options this offseason and discuss whether the Bulls might try to repair their relationship with LaVine to play alongside Josh Giddey (2:03). They provide more reaction and analysis of the Josh Giddey trade and how he can fit on the Bulls (8:01). The discussion heats up as they debate if Giddey will be the starting point guard (14:42) and whether drafting another guard could pose a problem (19:45). Finally, K.C. and Tony make their picks for who the Bulls should target in the 2024 NBA Draft (26:13). Don't miss this insightful and engaging episode!

Jun 21, 2024 • 25min
Chicago Bulls trade Alex Caruso to Oklahoma City Thunder for Josh Giddey
NBA analyst K.C. Johnson and basketball expert Kevin Anderson discuss the Bulls trading Alex Caruso for Josh Giddey, analyzing its impact on Lonzo Ball, Zach LaVine, and DeMar DeRozan. They break down Giddey's game, potential fit with the team, and future roster adjustments.

Jun 20, 2024 • 59min
Reliving the most iconic Bulls moments from the last 20 years
Join K.C. Johnson, Kevin Anderson, and Tony Gill on the Bulls Talk Podcast as they dive deep into the Bulls' most unforgettable moments of the last 20 years. K.C. reminisces about the transformative 2003-04 Bulls season (4:00), and they relive Joakim Noah's epic steal and dunk during the 2009 series vs. the Celtic (7:57). From Derrick Rose's inspiring MVP campaign in 2011 (18:00) to his clutch game-winners against the Lakers (24:12) and Nate Robinson's heroic playoff performance (39:39). Finally, they discuss DeMar DeRozan's spectacular New Year's Eve performance in 2021 (32:43). This episode is a must-listen for every Bulls fan!

Jun 18, 2024 • 43min
Why the Bulls didn’t trade Alex Caruso and what’s next for DeMar DeRozan
In the latest episode of the Bulls Talk Podcast, host K.C. Johnson and Kevin Anderson discuss why the Bulls turned down significant trade offers for Alex Caruso at the deadline (1:08) and explore the team's active efforts to shake up the roster (5:23). They also give you insights into the renewed negotiations with DeMar DeRozan now that the finals are over (7:31) and how objective DeMar will be in these talks (11:07). Later, K.C. and Kevin also discuss the overall direction of the team amidst growing fan frustration (22:17). Would Artūras Karnišovas have changed his stance on the roster if the Bulls made the playoffs this season (24:44)? Finally, they react to the Boston Celtics winning the 2024 NBA Championship and debate if this team is one of the best in NBA history (26:26).

Jun 13, 2024 • 49min
Unpacking the NBA Draft: Bulls’ Picks, Hidden Gems, and Bold Predictions with Ricky O’Donnell
Join Kevin Anderson on the Bulls Talk Podcast as he welcomes Ricky O'Donnell, writer, editor, and associate director of programming at SBNation, for a deep dive into the upcoming NBA draft. They kick things off by discussing the overall talent pool, noting that while the draft lacks top-tier talent, it boasts considerable depth (1:34). They debate whether critics are too harsh or if the draft truly lacks star power (3:15). The duo also analyzes why Tyler Smith is the Bulls' best option at the 11th pick (14:48). They list other potential targets for the Bulls (16:12), and question the merits of Cody Williams (19:40). Ricky projects the best player of this draft (22:39) and assesses Zach Edey's potential in the NBA, cautioning against the Bulls selecting him (27:00) and debate the futures of Patrick Williams and DeMar DeRozan with the Bulls (39:10).

Jun 11, 2024 • 41min
Reflecting on Chet Walkers legacy with the Bulls
Hall of Famer and former Bulls great Chet Walker passed at 84. He played 13 seasons in the NBA, and his final six was with the Bulls. What kind of impact did he have in those six years? Legendary Bulls writer Sam Smith joins K.C. Johnson to discuss what made Walker a Bulls great. Smith discusses Walker's 56-point night after being snubbed from the All-Star team (3:20). He also discussed who he was on and off the court (9:00), his delayed induction into the Basketball Hall of Fame (17:19) and his life after basketball (25:00). Get to know the legendary Bull Chet Walker on this episode of the Bulls Talk Podcast!

Jun 7, 2024 • 42min
Billy Donovan III to lead Windy City Bulls, OKC may eye Patrick Williams & Devin Carter draft chatter
In this packed episode of the Bulls Talk Podcast, K.C. Johnson and Tony Gill break down Game 1 of the NBA Finals between the Boston Celtics and Dallas Mavericks (1:00). Can Dallas bounce back from their blowout loss? The duo then dives into the news of Billy Donovan III, son of Bulls head coach Billy Donovan, being named head coach of the Windy City Bulls (12:35) and the broader impact of college coaches on the NBA, including UConn’s Dan Hurley emerging as a candidate for the Los Angeles Lakers (20:42). They also explore Oklahoma City's potential interest in restricted free agent Patrick Williams (28:23) and whether Providence guard Devin Carter tops the Bulls' draft board (33:44). Don't miss these insights and more!