

By The Horns: A Chicago Bulls Show
Chicago Sports Network
Welcome to By The Horns, a podcast covering the Chicago Bulls. Hosted by Bulls Countdown Live host Camron Smith and CHSN Bulls Insider K.C. Johnson. We’ll bring you the latest updates along with guest interviews and breaking news. Episodes are released every Tuesday and Thursday.
Episodes
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Jun 23, 2020 • 1h 8min
Who won the Jimmy Butler trade and All-NBA team selections
The 3 year anniversary of the trade that set the Bulls on the path to rebuild, it's time to review who won the trade. Jamal Collier, Bulls beat writer for the Chicago Tribune, joins the Bulls Talk pod with Kevin Anderson, KC Johnson, and Rob Schaefer to debate the trade. Later in the pod, the crew also selects their 3 All-NBA teams and debate which Bull if any is ready to make a push to be on a All-NBA team.
(1:34) - Who is the winner of the Jimmy Butler trade?
(7:36) - Why didn't the Bulls believe they could build around Jimmy Butler?
(23:10) - Who should be All-NBA 1st team?
(35:30) - All-NBA 2nd team selections
(43:22) - All-NBA 3rd team
(56:50) - Which current Bulls player is most likely to be All-NBA 1st team

Jun 19, 2020 • 56min
NBA Champion Avery Johnson on playing in a shortened season
As the NBA tries to set up a return to play in Orlando, the 22 teams will start strategizing on how to win the championship in a weird tournament setup. NBA Champion Avery Johnson joins host Jason Goff and NBA Champion and NBCS Chicago Bulls analyst Will Perdue, as they discuss how players and teams should prepare when the season starts back up, Avery's thoughts on the modern NBA, and tells stories of his time as a Spur.
(4:08) - How should teams deal with the shortened season
(11:50) - How have the Spurs been successful for so long?
(19:40) - What has changed about the game in the modern era
(27:00) - Stories of battles with Kevin Garnett, and Hakeem Olajuwon
(33:20) - Reasons why bad organizations remain bad
(41:39) - How should organizations handle head coaching searches

Jun 16, 2020 • 45min
Restarting NBA season isn’t as easy as it seemed
Just as it seemed like the NBA was ready to start, the players put a hold on the momentum. Leila Rahimi, Bulls Outsider Big Dave Watson, and Bulls reporter Rob Schaefer discuss how the NBA players are now reviewing the NBA's plans on return to play, their concerns with the state of social justice in America and dealing with the COVID-19 pandemic.
(6:25) - Thad Young speaks about the social injustice in America
(17:57) - Can the NBA hold its title as the most progressive league?
(23:42) - NBA players only zoom call/what are the players' concerns?
(35:35) - If the players do play, what should the expectations be?

Jun 12, 2020 • 1h 1min
Celebrating Derrick Rose week
On this edition of the Bulls Talk podcast, Jason Goff, K.C. Johnson, and Rob Schaefer discuss Derrick Rose's career and importance to not only the Bulls, but the city of Chicago.
1:30 Our first introduction to Derrick Rose
8:50 On the Bulls winning the draft lottery and why taking Rose wasn't a guarantee
12:40 On Rose embracing his Chicago heritage and playing in his hometown
16:05 K.C. Johnson on his relationship with Rose
23:50 Our favorite Derrick Rose moments
29:20 On Rose's impact on the league and meteoric rise
32:20 On the trade that sent Rose to the Knicks and the end of the Rose era in Chicago
35:30 On Rose's Hall of Fame chances
41:45 Will the Bulls retire #1?
47:50 On Heat rivalry and would Bulls have beaten Miami in 2012 if Rose stays healthy?
55:15 How we feel about Rose today
58:45 Any chance Rose wears a Bulls uniform again?

Jun 9, 2020 • 1h 8min
The importance of music on the NBA and The Last Dance
On this edition of the Bulls Talk podcast, Laurence Holmes, Jason Goff, Chris Tannehill, and Jay ILLa discuss the influence of music on the NBA culture.
0:45 Why we are doing this podcast
2:00 Surprised Jordan wasn’t a huge hip-hop fan?
6:00 Why Jordan is still the most referenced basketball player in rap
10:50 How the Jordan brand is much more than a basketball shoe
14:10 The influence of Nike and Jordan brand on hip-hop culture
19:40 The Last Dance and use of music within the documentary
31:00 On Jordan using Kenny Lattimore to get hyped up
35:30 Jay ILLa on what the Bears like to listen to
42:10 On Chicago being ‘cool’ because of Jordan and what it’s like now
47:15 On Jordan being so important to hip-hop culture but not being a fan of it
54:15 On pushback to The Last Dance

Jun 5, 2020 • 1h 20min
The NBA season is set to return during a trying time
The NBA season is set to restart and return with 22 teams continuing their seasons for a chance at a playoff spot and a championship. Even though the league has set a schedule the current state of the country is still in flux due to the murder of George Floyd. Host Jason Goff is joined by Rob Schaefer, Tony Gill, Kevin Anderson, and KC Johnson to discuss social justice and police brutality in America, the NBA restarting the season, and what does it mean for the Bulls now that their season is over.
(3:00) - It's been a hard week for America
(16:06) - When sports come back, we must still remember this pain
(35:40) - This situation feels different
(42:06) - Strong concerns over the NBA picking the season back up
(53:38) - How will no fan games impact the players?
(1:05:21) - The Bulls season is officially over, what will happen with Jim Boylen

May 29, 2020 • 55min
Behind the scenes look at Sports Uncovered’s ’I’m Back’
NBC Sports' Sports Uncovered series began with a bang with the NBCS Chicago team leading the series with the 1st episode "I'm Back'. Host Jason Goff is joined by Bulls insider KC Johnson, and producers of the episode Ryan McGuffey and Tony Gill, to discuss the making of the episode and provide an inside look into Michael Jordan's famous fax.
(2:12) - What was discovered in the episode
(8:53) - The Last Dance documentary, didn't go over the secret Jordan practices
(17:12) - Interviews that were done for the documentary
(28:36) - Interesting nuggets from the episode
(39:30) - LeBron James' comments in the documentary
(45:00) - Things that were left out of the documentary

May 26, 2020 • 50min
90s Bull Scott Williams on The Last Dance and Michael Jordan
Leila Rahimi is joined by 3-time NBA champion on the early 90s Bulls, big man Scott Williams and NBCS Chicago Bulls analyst Will Perdue to discuss and tell stories not heard anywhere else about the Bulls and being a teammate of Michael Jordan. They discuss the fiercest rivalries the Bulls had, challenging MJ's tough leadership, and Scott goes into understanding why MJ left the game after losing his father, because Scott lost his parents as well.
(1:50) - Scott on his biggest takeaway from the doc was MJ crying at the end of Ep 7 of the last dance
(5:20) - Understood Michael retiring after losing his father because he lost his parents
(13:00) - Scott Williams on MJ telling Jerry Krause he wanted Scott on the Bulls
(20:00) - Scott discusses being targeted by Jordan with his "tough" leadership
(31:19) - Issues with The Last Dance not discussing why the Bulls lost to the Knicks in the 1994 playoffs
(37:00) - Biggest rivalries for the Bulls

May 22, 2020 • 36min
Marcus Jordan on being the son of MJ
In the Last Dance documentary, we got to see a peek into what being Michael Jordan is like. But what is it like being the son of the most famous athlete in the world? Marcus Jordan goes 1 on 1 with host Jason Goff to discuss everything that comes with being MJ's son. They dive into the Last Dance, who is the greatest player after MJ, and how is he pushing the Jordan brand forward with his own store, The Trophy Room.
(2:35) - What is it like being one of Michael Jordan's kids
(8:12) - The difficulties of sharing his father with everyone in the world
(14:40) - Dealing with debates on if MJ is the best ever
(19:00) - The story of the University of Central Florida changing from Adidas to Jordan
(24:20) - MJ's relationship with Kobe
(26:48) - MJ's relationship with LeBron
(31:34) - Keeping the Jordan brand going with Trophy Room

May 19, 2020 • 49min
Versus battle: 1991 Bulls vs 1996 Bulls
Now that the Last Dance documentary is over, it is time to debate which Bulls championship team is the best. Host Jason Goff hosts this battle of Bulls champions between the big man on the 1991 Bulls Will Perdue, and Bulls guard off the bench on the 1996 Bulls Randy Brown. Former NBA player Kendall Gill sits as judge as well. Which team do you think is the best?
(2:44) - Which Michael Jordan was better?
(9:23) - Which 3rd piece was better, Horace Grant or Dennis Rodman?
(17:38) - Tougher Finals opponent, 1991 Lakers or 1996 Sonics?
(26:06) - Who had the better bench?
(33:52) - Which team you would want to party with more?


