

By The Horns: A Chicago Bulls Show
Chicago Sports Network
Welcome to By The Horns, a podcast covering the Chicago Bulls. Hosted by Bulls Countdown Live host Camron Smith and CHSN Bulls Insider K.C. Johnson. We’ll bring you the latest updates along with guest interviews and breaking news. Episodes are released every Tuesday and Thursday.
Episodes
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Oct 30, 2020 • 40min
Jason Goff’s hypothetical Bulls trades
"What if" scenarios are a basketball fan's dream conversation, and host Jason Goff brings one to the podcast. Jason is joined by K.C. Johnson, Rob Schaefer, and Tony Gill as they discuss some Bulls trade scenarios with the draft coming up and some more in-depth draft coverage on who the Bulls are adding to their board.
(7:00) - What would you give up in order to acquire Ben Simmons?
(16:00) - Could the Bulls build a contender around Ben Simmons?
(25:00) - Reason why the Bulls wouldn't want to trade for Ben Simmons
(36:55) - Will Zach LaVine be a Bull long-term?
(40:38) - Bulls add to their draft board

Oct 27, 2020 • 53min
Should the Bulls trade down in the draft?
Host Jason Goff is joined by K.C. Johnson and Rob Schaefer as they discuss the NBA Draft and whether the Bulls should consider trading their No. 4 overall pick to acquire more assets. The group debates what the Bulls' draft strategy should be. Later in the podcast, they discuss the new proposed start to the 2020-2021 NBA season and players they are keeping an eye on in the draft.
(3:20) - Should the Bulls think about trading down?
(11:10) - How would a Dec. 22 start to the 2020-21 season impact the players?
(21:03) - Will the players be disciplined enough outside of a bubble?
(31:40) - NBA and basketball podcast recommendations
(43:18) - Draft prospects the crew is keying in on

Oct 23, 2020 • 54min
ESPN & FiveThirtyEight’s Chris Herring discusses Bulls and NBA
Jason Goff and K.C. Johnson are joined by ESPN and FiveThrityEight's Chris Herring as they discuss the Bulls and the NBA. The crew talks about the odd 2019-20 season and its legacy, Derrick Rose's fit with the Lakers and the schedule for the 2021 campaign. Later in the podcast, Jason and K.C. deep dive into the NBA Draft and who the Bulls could be leaning towards selecting.
(1:40) - How should we feel about the 2020 season?
(9:20) - Is the Eastern Conference wide open?
(20:20) - What narrative around the NBA was proven wrong this year?
(33:45) - Derrick Rose to the Lakers rumors are picking up steam
(43:34) - Bulls Talk Podcast draft segment: Which player are the Bulls leaning toward in the draft?

Oct 20, 2020 • 47min
Players that changed the way you look at basketball
Former Rockets GM Daryl Morey penned a goodbye letter to the Houston Rockets fans and thanked James Harden for helping him see basketball differently, so the Bulls talk crew of Jason Goff, K.C. Johnson, and Rob Schaefer discuss players that impacted their basketball watching experience. Later in the pod, the crew dives into NBA free agency and players that the Bulls should target, discusses the Bulls scrimmage and analyzes Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas' continued beef with Michael Jordan.
(2:12) - Which player in NBA history changed the way you look at basketball?
(8:05) - Did Derrick Rose change the game?
(15:16) - Some players that change the game that weren't superstars
(22:49) - When NBA free agency begins, who should the Bulls target?
(36:42) - Bulls scrimmage review
(40:30) - Isiah Thomas still doesn't think Jordan is the greatest

Oct 16, 2020 • 35min
NBC Sports’ Tom Haberstroh on the NBA bubble and Billy Donovan’s impact on the Bulls
NBC Sports' NBA insider Tom Haberstroh joins NBC Sports Chicago Bulls insider K.C. Johnson as they go around the league and discuss Jimmy Butler's superstar turn in the bubble, what the 2021 NBA season could look like and the surprisingly low NBA Finals television ratings. They also discuss the Bulls and what kind of impact new head coach Billy Donovan will have on the team moving forward.
(2:50) - Takeaways from the NBA Bubble
(6:30) - Numbers behind Jimmy Butler’s superstar surge
(11:40) - LeBron vs. MJ
(18:30) - Should the NBA be concerned about low TV ratings?
(24:00) - Will the NBA permanently change its schedule due to the pandemic?
(26:10) - How will Billy Donovan impact the Bulls?

Oct 13, 2020 • 56min
Sam Smith on MJ vs LeBron and the Bulls’ coaching changes
With LeBron James and the Los Angeles Lakers winning the 2019-2020 NBA Championship and giving James his 4th title, the comparisons to Michael Jordan ignited social media yet again. Bulls and NBA writer Sam Smith joins Jason Goff, K.C. Johnson, and Rob Schaefer as they discuss LeBron and Jordan’s legacies. Later in the podcast, the crew discusses the news that head coach Billy Donovan is starting fresh with new assistants and what that means for the Bulls as they continue their rebuild of the front office and coaching staff this year.
(2:00) - How will we remember this season and the Lakers winning the championship?
(9:15) - Covering MJ and LeBron and the debate that connects the two
(20:28) - The Chicago ties to the 2020 NBA Finals
(27:51) - Billy Donovan is only keeping Chris Fleming on the staff as an assistant coach
(42:00) - How will the league proceed now that the season is over
(46:00) - Should the NBA find new ways to change the game?

Oct 9, 2020 • 36min
Bulls mailbag, NBA TV ratings, and LeBron vs Jordan
The Bulls Talk crew of Jason Goff, K.C. Johnson, Rob Schaefer and Tony Gill dive into K.C.'s recent mailbag of fan questions, including updates on Bulls camp and if there's a chance of a return for Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah. The guys also discuss the conversation about the low NBA TV ratings and the most heated debate in sports: Who is the GOAT, LeBron or Jordan?
(2:00) - Will Derrick Rose or Joakim Noah return to the Bulls?
(7:20) -Draft strategy for Artūras Karnišovas and Marc Eversley
(11:00) - Low NBA television ratings
(23:22) - LeBron vs. Jordan debate

Oct 6, 2020 • 43min
Jimmy G Buckets and we all know what the G stands for
Jimmy Butler put on a show in Game 3 of the NBA Finals vs. LeBron James and the Los Angeles Lakers and stamped his name in the history books with a 40-point triple-double. Bulls fans were in a frenzy on social media and raised some questions about his time as a Bull. Host Jason Goff returns from vacation this week and is joined by K.C. Johnson, Rob Schaefer and Tony Gill as they discuss Butler's performance, his time in Chicago and give updates on what the Bulls are up to during the offseason.
(1:20) - Jason addresses the fans that think he hates Jimmy Butler
(8:22) - Where does Jimmy Butler land on the tiers of superstars?
(18:03) - Who will step up for the Lakers not named LeBron or AD?
(27:55) - Conspiracy theory in the NBA Finals
(31:16) - Updates on Bulls activities and Happy Birthday Derrick Rose

Oct 2, 2020 • 42min
Anthony Davis’ roots & Marc Eversley speaks to the media
The NBA Finals have begun and Chicago's own Anthony Davis made a big statement in his Finals debut. To start the show, K.C. Johnson is joined by Davis' high school coach Cortez Hale to break down how Davis rose to stardom, his reasons for not going to a powerhouse high school, and some never-before-heard moments from Davis' life in Chicago. Later, K.C. is joined by Rob Schaefer and Tony Gill to discuss Davis' Finals performance and Marc Eversley's recent comments on the state of the Bulls.
(2:58) - Coaching Anthony Davis at Perspectives Charter School
(7:10) - Who was Anthony Davis as a young high school prospect?
(12:50) - How did things chance for Perspectives and Davis once he became the No. 1 player in the country?
(15:56) - Favorite memory of coaching Davis
(19:20) - Rob Schaefer and Tony Gill join K.C. to discuss Anthony Davis
(27:10) - LeBron is in prime form
(32:10) - Bulls GM Marc Eversley speaks to the media

Oct 1, 2020 • 58min
Lauri Markkanen speaks on new Bulls coach Billy Donovan
In a jam-packed episode of the Bulls Talk Podcast, K.C. Johnson, Rob Schaefer and Tony Gill react to Lauri Markkanen’s first comments to the media from the Bulls Bubble in which he discussed Billy Donovan, Jim Boylen and why he had such a down season in 2019-20. Later on in the pod, the crew discusses NBA prospects speaking to the media and 2 players of particular interest to the Bulls, LaMelo Ball and Killian Hayes. They also dive into Jimmy Butler making the NBA Finals and the biggest NBA news of the day, Doc Rivers and the LA Clippers parting ways.
(1:52) - Lauri Markkanen addresses the media
(9:10) - How will new Bulls regime handle Lauri Markkanen's upcoming contract situation?
(14:50) - LaMelo Ball and Killian Hayes discuss the Bulls
(28:30) - Did the Bulls miss an opportunity to build around Jimmy Butler?
(44:06) - Doc Rivers gets fired from the Clippers. Would he have been a candidate for the Bulls?


