

By The Horns: A Chicago Bulls Show
Chicago Sports Network
Welcome to By The Horns, a podcast covering the Chicago Bulls. Hosted by Chicagoans Camron Smith and Drew Stevens. We’ll bring you the latest updates along with guest interviews and breaking news. Episodes are released every Tuesday and Thursday.
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Jun 15, 2021 • 1h 10min
All-Time Point guard ranking, sitdown with Marc Eversley
Chris Paul is on a historic run but is he a top 5 point guard all-time? Jason Goff, K.C. Johnson, Rob Schaefer, and Tony Gill debate and rank the greatest point guards and discuss how fans will view a LeBron James-less NBA Finals. Later in the podcast, Rob sits down with Bulls GM Marc Eversley to discuss his newest role as he is set to join the Canada Basketball Board of Directors.
(2:00) - 2nd round playoff reviews
(10:00) - Will fans care that LeBron James isn't in the Finals and watch?
(25:10) - Is Chris Paul a top 5 point guard of all time?
(52:20) - Rob Schaefer interview with Marc Eversley

Jun 11, 2021 • 60min
Coby White out at least 4 months, NBA playoff talk
It was announced Thursday by the Bulls that Coby White had successful surgery on his left shoulder which will have him out a minimum of 4 months before he is re-evaluated. K.C. Johnson and Rob Schaefer discuss the crushing blow for the Bulls and discuss the pressing issue of the Bulls and their need for a point guard ASAP. Later in the podcast, Jason Goff returns from vacation and joins K.C. and Rob to discuss the MVP, NBA playoffs, and Scottie Pippen's new tell-all book.
(1:20) - Coby White tears his labrum doing basketball activities
(7:30) - Bulls will need to add a guard as a top priority
(12:00) - Options the Bulls have at point guard this offseason
(13:06) - Jason Goff returns from vacation and rejoins the podcast
(26:40) - Tom Thibodeau wins Coach of the Year
(42:40) - Scottie Pippen is set to release his tell-all book

Jun 8, 2021 • 49min
Who will Bulls surpass to make the 2022 NBA Playoffs?
It's playoffs or bust for next year's Bulls so that means they need to overtake some teams to make it. K.C. Johnson, Rob Schaefer, and Tony Gill break down each (logical)* team the Bulls will be matched up against next year for a playoff berth and discuss scenarios which the Bulls could supplant or finish under them. Later in the podcast, the crew breaks down each 2nd round playoff matchup of the 2021 playoffs and select their winners to move on to the conference finals.
*Logical meaning, not the Nets, Sixers, Bucks, or Hawks, because come on its not happening
(6:25) - Toronto Raptors
(9:30) - Charlotte Hornets
(12:35) - Indiana Pacers
(18:34) - Washington Wizards
(22:24) - Boston Celtics
(26:15) - Miami Heat
(29:50) - New York Knicks

Jun 4, 2021 • 39min
Bulls offseason mailbag: Chris Paul, free agency
The Bulls Talk crew of K.C. Johnson, Rob Schaefer, and Tony Gill go into the K.C. mailbag and discuss questions that didn't make the cut, including: Will Billy Donovan be fired if the Bulls miss the playoffs again, is Derrick Rose the right point guard for the Bulls, can the Bulls re-sign Daniel Theis, and if Chris Paul is a free agent, would the Bulls be willing to sign him? Later in the pod, they discuss their favorite Bull playoff performances.
(2:50) - Will Billy Donovan be fired if the Bulls miss the playoffs next year?
(6:20) - Can and will the Bulls bring back Daniel Theis this offseason?
(11:00) - With Zach LaVine headed for a big extension, who realistically can the Bulls get to fix the point guard position? Derrick Rose?
(19:40) - Is Chris Paul a possible get for the Bulls?
(25:30) - Favorite Bulls playoff performances (Jordan could have had all of them)

May 28, 2021 • 49min
Which playoff point guard should Bulls look at this offseason
The NBA playoffs are where the Bulls are striving to be so adding and upgrading the point guard position this offseason with one that has playoff experience is a top priority for Artūras Karnišovas and Marc Eversley. Jason Goff, KC Johnson, and Rob Schaefer discuss the playoffs and rank which point guard should the Bulls and Bulls fans should be watching, including Derrick Rose and Mike Conley. Later in the podcast, the crew discusses the Bulls roster and selects who they think should stay and go, and the crew remembers the 10 year anniversary of the Bulls making the Eastern Conference Finals vs the Miami Heat.
(1:20) - The point guard play in the playoffs
(8:40) - Listing off potential playoff PGs the Bulls can grab this offseason starting with Derrick Rose
(16:40) - Bulls roster breakdown, who should stay, and who should go?
(29:40) - Will most of the changes to improve the team come from player development or from outside help?
(33:40) - Did Artūras Karnišovas and Marc Eversley push in their chips too early on this team?
(41:50) - 10-year anniversary of the Derrick Rose led Bulls vs LeBron James and the Miami Heat in the 2011 NBA Eastern Conference Finals

May 25, 2021 • 43min
Analyzing Artūras Karnišovas’ first year as Bulls EVP
As the play-in and first round of playoff games get going you can't help but feel a way about the Bulls not playing postseason basketball. (Especially after watching the Pacers and Hornets. Sheesh.) But what can AK do to make sure the playoffs aren't missed next year? Jason Goff, Rob Schaefer, and K.C. Johnson discuss the playoffs games and if the Bulls could have made some noise if they made the play-in tournament, their biggest takeaways from the first set of playoff games, will Patrick Williams make the All-Rookie team, and they analyze Artūras Karnišovas' first year on the job.
(4:00) - Bulls missed an opportunity to play meaningful, fun basketball this year
(8:00) - Around the league playoff reviews
(16:50) - Most impressive individual performance award of the first playoff games goes to?
(27:10) - Bulls fans react to Chandler Hutchison and Daniel Gafford on the Wizards
(36:10) - Does Patrick Williams have a shot to be on either All-Rookie teams this year?

May 21, 2021 • 44min
Bulls end of season awards: Most Improved, Biggest Surprise & more
It’s awards season on the Bulls Talk Podcast. With the season coming to an end, K.C. Johnson and Rob Schaefer decided to hand out some awards. Hear who took home the prestigious honors of Most Improved, Most Valuable and many more!
(1:40) - Bulls' MVP of the 2020-21 season
(6:05) - Bulls' Most Improved Player
(12:25) - Most Disappointing Bull
(18:21) - Biggest Surprise
(26:30) - Rapid fire awards

May 18, 2021 • 1h 4min
Bulls exit interviews: Artūras Karnišovas not ok with mediocrity
The Bulls miss the playoffs again this year but it does feel different than last year. They end the season with 2 All-Stars and some hope for better in the next season. Artūras Karnišovas and Bulls players address the media for the last time this season and discuss the disappointment in missing the playoffs again, their assessment of the season, and what they expect this offseason and next year. Jason Goff, KC Johnson, and Rob Schaefer break down the interviews and discuss what they expect AK to do this offseason, Zach LaVine's contract situation, and discuss was this season a failure after not making it to the playoffs. Later in the podcast, KC Johnson sits down with new Hall of Famer Toni Kukoč.
(2:30) - Billy Donovan and Artūras Karnišovas didn't sugar coat this Bulls season
(10:00) - Bulls had a goal and they didn't do that despite trading for another All-Star
(15:30) - Billy Donovan discusses how he feels this season went and what he thinks of the roster
(21:00) - Zach LaVine is looking to cash in when he negotiates on a new contract
(30:00) - Patrick Williams needs an NBA offseason
(36:00) - Lauri Markkanen is looking forward to an opportunity to prove himself and it's most likely for another team
(45:15) - Former Bulls great and now 2021 Basketball Hall of Famer Toni Kukoč joins KC Johnson to discuss the ultimate accomplishment for a basketball player

May 14, 2021 • 39min
Can Coby White change his narrative at the end of the season?
The Bulls are still in pursuit of the play-in tournament and they keep themselves alive with a win vs the Raptors behind the play of Coby White. Has Coby's play in the last couple of weeks changed the narrative about him? Jason Goff, Rob Schaefer, and KC Johnson discuss Coby and his future with the Bulls. The crew also discuss the play of the two All-Stars Zach LaVine and Nikola Vučević and they break down the low offensive outputs of rookie Patrick Williams and where they see him in the future plans of the Bulls.
(4:20) - Why is Coby White's play at the end of this season different and better than last year?
(14:25) - The impact of Nikola Vučević on the Bulls
(19:30) - Zach LaVine's play after coming back from the COVID protocol
(24:30) - Is Javonte Green another Shaq Harrison?
(27:50) - Why hasn't Patrick Williams had an offensive hot streak this season?

May 11, 2021 • 43min
Bulls 3-game win streak opens window for play-in
The Bulls Talk crew and all its nonsense is together again, with Jason Goff, Rob Schaefer, Tony Gill, and K.C. Johnson back to discuss a wide range of topics. In the first half of the podcast, Jason, Rob, and Tony discuss the weird reaction NBA media has had to the notion Nikola Jokić could win the MVP, what doing a Bulls podcast and the pre and post-game show been like this season, and who was the better player: Shaq or Tim Duncan? On the Bulls, Rob and K.C. break down the winning streak and what fans should look at as the race to the play-in continues.
(1:55) - Why can't Jokić be the MVP and can ALL-NBA voting be fixed?
(14:50) - What is it like doing a Bulls podcast and pre/post-game shows this year?
(24:40) - Shaq or Tim Duncan, who you got?
(30:00) - Literal start of Bulls Talk (lol)
(36:38) - Bulls defense has improved dramatically