
Data Over Dogma
This ain't your pastor's Bible podcast. This is a deep interrogation of the book, and we're bringing receipts. Bible scholar Dr. Dan McClellan and atheist podcaster Dan Beecher team up to discover what the Bible actually says, what it decidedly doesn't say (even if everyone thinks it does), and explore the history of the most popular book of all time.
Latest episodes

Nov 11, 2024 • 1h 5min
Episode 84: The Demon Haunted Bible
Dive into the fascinating world of demons and their biblical interpretations. Discover how historical beliefs have morphed from superstitions to modern understandings of mental health. Explore the intriguing concept of 'Shadim' and its evolution into contemporary demonology. The discussion touches on the socioeconomic impacts of demonic possession as narratively explored in the Gospels. Additionally, learn about the consequences of labeling individuals as 'demonic' in today's discourse, highlighting the critical need for compassion over judgment.

Nov 4, 2024 • 1h 5min
Episode 83: The God-Forsaken Psalm
Explore the haunting words of Psalm 22, a poignant lament that Jesus quoted in his final moments. Delve into the significance of the Garden Tomb and its historical implications alongside contrasting sites like the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Discover the intricacies of translating the Psalm and how it shapes our understanding of prophecy and crucifixion. Enjoy stories about cultural traditions, the charm of accents, and vibrant discussions about faith and history that challenge conventional beliefs.

Oct 28, 2024 • 1h 3min
Episode 82: Deconstruction Zone with Rev Karla Kamstra
Rev Karla Kamstra, a social media influencer and author of "Deconstructing: Leaving Church, Finding Faith," shares her journey of religious deconstruction. She discusses the emotional challenges of questioning lifelong beliefs and the liberating role of social media in connecting with others on similar paths. Karla highlights the importance of community support and the transformative process of redefining faith outside traditional frameworks. The conversation encourages deeper reflection on identity, trauma, and forming authentic connections in the quest for spiritual truth.

Oct 21, 2024 • 1h 6min
Episode 81: You're Speaking My Language!
As origin stories go, the Bible's explanation for why humanity has multiple languages is... let's call it creative. Alas, it doesn't hold up particularly well in a modern, scientifically informed era. That said, there's more to the story of the so-called "tower of Babel" than immediately meets the eye. We'll discuss what other ancient questions this chapter of Genesis is attempting to answer, and how it all fit into the context of its time.Then the linguistic adventure continues, as we delve into a mystical realm that very few people have access to: the magic of the ancient languages! Because if you listen to certain people, you'll learn that there's a whole world of extra messaging packed into the original wordings of the original languages of the Bible. Is this the key to decoding the universe? Will this way of reading the text save humanity? Have we finally unlocked the code to proving the truth claims of the Bible? Well, no. But it's a fun discussion anyway.For early access to an ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and the opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at:https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma Follow us on the various social media places:https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPodhttps://www.twitter.com/data_over_dogma Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 14, 2024 • 58min
Episode 80: Omni Everything?
The modern concept of God (at least in the Christian context) is of an all-knowing, all-powerful, being. One who is everywhere all at once. He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake... all that stuff. But does that view of the almighty comport with what is represented in the Bible, or are those ideas more recent innovations? Where did these ideas come from?Then, we're talking Bible quotations. Or more accurately mis-quotations. Plenty of people misquote the Bible, it happens all the time. It can be especially vexing when that someone is looking at a bad translation. But what happens when the Bible misquotes the Bible? We'll be looking at Acts 15, and a moment when the author might have found a bad translation of their own.For early access to an ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and the opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at:https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma Follow us on the various social media places:https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPodhttps://www.twitter.com/data_over_dogma Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 7, 2024 • 1h 9min
Episode 79: Who is a True Christian w/ David Congdon
Go to any comment section where someone has made a controversial claim about the Bible and you'll see it: someone gatekeeping the idea of who qualifies as a "true Christian". Real Christians believe in the trinity, or else decidedly DON'T believe in the trinity. Real Christians believe we're saved through works. Or through faith alone. Or neither. Or both...On this week's episode, Dr. David Congdon joins us to discuss his book Who is a True Christian. If you think that question is settled or remotely easy to answer... well you haven't paid attention to this show. Dr. Congdon walks us through the history, politics, and power struggles behind these questions, and gives us big insights into ways we can address this difficult quandary going forward.For early access to an ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and the opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at:https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma Follow us on the various social media places:https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPodhttps://www.twitter.com/data_over_dogma Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 30, 2024 • 1h 7min
Episode 78: The Biblical View of Immigrants
Craig Mousin, an immigration lawyer and ordained minister, and Cecil Cicirello, a seasoned podcaster, delve into the hot-button issue of immigration from a biblical perspective. They discuss the moral implications using the story of the Good Samaritan, addressing how selective interpretations of scripture can overshadow compassion. The conversation also highlights historical narratives of migrants, critiques misconceptions about immigrants, and advocates for a faith-based approach to welcoming them into society.

Sep 23, 2024 • 1h 10min
Episode 77: What is an Atheist?
Dive into a rich discussion about the slippery nature of defining 'religion' and how subjective experiences shape its meaning. The complexities of historical roots reveal how ancient contexts inform modern beliefs. Then, explore the word 'atheist'—its unexpected history and charged implications today. The conversation highlights how language can bridge gaps in understanding differing perspectives on belief, encouraging respectful dialogue in the often-controversial landscape of faith and doubt.

Sep 16, 2024 • 1h 2min
Episode 76: Pay Your Tithing!
Modern parishioners are often asked to pay one tenth of their money to their church. This practice, they are told, is biblical in nature. But is it really? Well, this episode we're talking tithing, and like so many ideas in the Bible it's way more complicated than you might think!Then, we're keeping the theme monetary and telling the story of Ananias and Sapphira. This New Testament couple decided that they didn't want to give ALL their money to the commune. Unfortunately, apostle Peter had set up some pretty stiff penalties for incomplete payment. Let's just say that the mafia would be proud. Yikes.For early access to an ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and the opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at:https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma Follow us on the various social media places:https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPodhttps://www.twitter.com/data_over_dogma Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Sep 9, 2024 • 1h 5min
Episode 75: Shrouded in Mystery
Dive into a whimsical discussion about biblical plagues, featuring a hilarious examination of the notorious frog invasion. Uncover the mysteries of the Exodus narrative, questioning its historical validity and divine themes. The Shroud of Turin takes center stage as the hosts dissect recent scientific studies and challenge its authenticity. With a blend of humor and critical analysis, this episode explores how faith and evidence intertwine, encouraging listeners to think deeply and engage with these intriguing topics.