

Data Over Dogma
Daniel McClellan and Daniel Beecher
This ain't your pastor's Bible podcast. This is a deep interrogation of the book, and we're bringing receipts. Bible scholar Dr. Dan McClellan and atheist podcaster Dan Beecher team up to discover what the Bible actually says, what it decidedly doesn't say (even if everyone thinks it does), and explore the history of the most popular book of all time.
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Mar 3, 2025 • 1h
Episode 100: Give Me Your Slave!
In a celebratory twist for their milestone, the hosts dive into Paul's intriguing letter to Philemon, shedding light on his relationship with the runaway slave Onesimus and offering a fresh perspective on slavery. They also explore the Septuagint, the Greek translation of Hebrew scripture, discussing its origins and impact on early Christianity. The episode highlights the complexities of mentorship, redemption, and the ongoing dialogue about biblical interpretations, all while weaving in the nuances of personal accountability and relationships.

Feb 24, 2025 • 1h 1min
Episode 99: Why Can't You Be Like Your Brother?
Imagine living in the shadow of the Messiah! This episode dives deep into the life of James, Jesus’ brother, exploring his role and the complexities of early Christian authority. Delve into the historical significance of the Masoretes, who brought vocalization to Hebrew texts, and uncover the artistry behind sacred cantillation. The discussion also touches on the theological implications of Jesus' sibling dynamics and the fascinating aspects of the Epistle of James. Prepare for a blend of history, theology, and engaging conversations!

Feb 17, 2025 • 59min
Episode 98: Did Jesus Go to Hell?
Did Jesus really take a trip to hell? Dive deep into that intriguing question and discover the various interpretations from biblical texts. Explore the contrasting views on hell in the Bible, especially the vivid imagery in Revelation. Find out what Enoch’s vision reveals about the afterlife and how modern and ancient theologians interpret Jesus’ descent. With humor and critical insight, the conversation navigates misconceptions about Sheol and Hades, sparking a refreshing perspective on death and the afterlife.

Feb 10, 2025 • 59min
Episode 97: The Neighborhood of Make-Believe
Dive into the whimsical world of amateur archaeology with Ron Wyatt's dubious biblical discoveries. Learn about the controversial claims surrounding ancient artifacts and the importance of skepticism. The conversation shifts to the profound parable of the Good Samaritan, raising questions about the true meaning of neighborly love. Explore how age-old teachings resonate in today's societal issues, prompting listeners to rethink compassion and community. It's a fascinating mix of humor, inquiry, and moral reflection!

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Feb 3, 2025 • 56min
Episode 96: "Render Unto Caesar" with Congressperson Eric Swalwell
Congressman Eric Swalwell, representing California's 14th district, joins to discuss the intersections of faith and politics. A professed Christian, he sheds light on his concerns about the rise of Christian nationalism and shares how his beliefs inform his decisions in Congress. The conversation delves into the Biblical relationship between religion and government, asking whether secular authority should be respected. Fun anecdotes and critiques of political motivations make for an engaging discussion about maintaining a secular governance while honoring diverse beliefs.

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Jan 27, 2025 • 56min
Episode 95: Uh-Oh, Jericho
The podcast dives into the intriguing reinterpretations of Noah's Ark, revealing the complexities and contradictions within biblical narratives. It humorously contrasts traditional stories with the realities of ancient contexts, especially regarding Noah and Jericho. The discussion shifts to the siege of Jericho, blending archaeological evidence with historical tactics, questioning the miraculous aspects of the biblical account. Throughout, there's a lighthearted exploration of culture and personal anecdotes that keep the conversation lively and engaging.

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Jan 20, 2025 • 1h 3min
Episode 94: Getting to Gnow the Gnostics
Delve into the fascinating world of Gnosticism, exploring its origins, beliefs, and connections to early Christian thought. Discover the nuances of this ancient spiritual movement and its unique texts like the Nag Hammadi codices. The discussion then shifts to the Codex Sinaiticus, revealing its significance in biblical history and the evolution of scripture. Enjoy lighthearted moments as the hosts share anecdotes and reflections, making complex topics approachable and engaging.

Jan 13, 2025 • 1h 9min
Episode 93: Banning the Bible?
Dive deep into the origins of law with a critical look at biblical statutes, particularly the Covenant Code, and how they relate to modern legal practices. The discussion illuminates the absurdities and complexities of these ancient rules, including their implications on social inequalities. It also tackles the contemporary issue of book banning, questioning whether the Bible itself should be among the texts deemed inappropriate for children. The interplay between legislative actions and historic injustices creates a thought-provoking narrative on censorship and its impact on marginalized communities.

Jan 6, 2025 • 1h 1min
Episode 92: The Curses of Cain and Ham
Dive into ancient tales as the podcast explores the dark past of Cain and Ham, examining how their curses have been misused to support racism. Discover the mark of Cain's protection and its implications. The discussion unveils how Ham's story and his descendants were distorted to justify oppressive beliefs. Transitioning to lighter fare, enjoy the gripping narrative of Susanna, where themes of justice and deceit intertwine. The journey through biblical misinterpretations reveals pressing societal issues, making for an enlightening listen.

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Dec 30, 2024 • 1h 3min
Episode 91: Star Spangled Christian Nationalism With April Ajoy
April Ajoy, author of "Star-Spangled Jesus" and a prominent content creator, shares her transformative journey from Christian nationalism to advocating against its damaging ideologies. She discusses the complexities of her upbringing in an evangelical family and the intertwining of faith with politics. With wit, she reflects on the absurdity of past beliefs and the emotional turmoil that followed her moral awakening. April also explores the impact of social media and personal safety as she engages with her audience on these critical themes.