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Dr. Vanessa Patrick, a respected marketing professor at the University of Houston's Bauer College of Business, is revered for her notable research on the psychology of saying no. This research acts as the foundation of her book, The Power of Saying No. The seemingly simple act can be a strenuous inner struggle, but Vanessa insists it's an essential skill for preserving personal dignity and establishing a balanced life. Understanding the psychology behind our hesitance to refuse can liberate individuals from overcommitment and enable them to set healthier boundaries. In her conversation with Melina Palmer, Vanessa articulated that the challenge of saying no often stems from our fear of negatively impacting relationships or tarnishing our reputation. However, people's constant attempt to please others leads them to become a pushover, gradually erasing their individuality. Vanessa conveyed that saying no (using her method of empowered refusal) allows you to not just create and uphold your unique identity but also to avoid turning into a person who mindlessly accepts every request. In this episode: Discover the influence of saying no and how it enhances the quality of relationships and life. Learn actionable strategies to establish personal boundaries and become uncompromisingly committed to them. Recognize the primary function of personal motivations and beliefs in setting energized refusal. Grasp the dilemma of saying no in contrasting situations and the art of diluting social pressure. Acquaint yourself with the principle of opportunity cost and its immense relevance to making mindful trade-offs. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Dr. Vanessa Patrick is the author of The Power of Saying No and a professor of marketing. Her research focuses on understanding why people struggle with saying no and the importance of setting boundaries. In this episode, she discusses the dual drivers behind saying yes when we want to say no. 00:05:39 - The Fear of Saying No, Dr. Patrick explains that the fear of saying no stems from our desire to be liked and our concern for our reputation. We often say yes to maintain relationships and be seen as competent. However, saying no strategically can actually help us develop our unique skills and be known for our expertise. 00:07:50 - The Motivation Behind Studying Saying No, Dr. Patrick shares that her initial research focused on self-discipline and resisting temptation through self-talk. After publishing her findings, she realized the widespread struggle with saying no and the importance of understanding how to say no effectively. This led her to further explore the topic and eventually write her book. 00:11:25 - The Power of "Don't" vs. "Can't" Dr. Patrick introduces the concept of using "don't" instead of "can't" when saying no. By saying "I don't" instead of "I can't," we appear more empowered and in control. This small shift in language can make a significant difference in how others perceive our refusal. 00:16:05 - Building Personal Policies, Vanessa Patrick discusses the importance of reflecting on our beliefs and values to establish personal policies that guide our actions and decisions. These policies, similar to mental budgets, help us stick to our desired goals and make it easier to say no in various situations. 00:18:04 - Being the "Kind of Person" Who Says No, Vanessa emphasizes the power of framing our decisions as reflections of our identity. By saying "I'm the kind of person who..." we can effectively communicate our boundaries and say no more effectively. 00:19:26 - Navigating Asks in the Workplace, Vanessa provides a framework for deciphering asks in the workplace. She distinguishes between urgent and important tasks that require immediate action, and non-promotable tasks that may distract from our main responsibilities. She highlights the importance of balancing participation in non-promotable tasks and ensuring fairness in task distribution. 00:23:24 - Finding Value in Non-Promotable Tasks, Vanessa acknowledges that some individuals may find value in non-promotable tasks, such as party planning, as it aligns with their personal interests or provides visibility. However, she encourages individuals to ensure they are not solely responsible for these tasks and to create an environment where everyone's strengths are leveraged. 00:27:28 - Reframing Saying No, Vanessa reminds us that saying no is not a rejection of the person making the request, but a refusal of the ask. By reframing our mindset, saying no can become much easier. 00:32:25 - Is It A Salt or Lasagna Ask?, Vanessa explains the concept of "pass the salt" asks, which are easy and low-cost requests that can have a high benefit for the person asking. She also introduces the idea of "bake your famous lasagna" asks, which are requests that are costly for the person asked but have no real impact. Vanessa emphasizes the importance of saying no to these types of asks and prioritizing the "Hero's Journey" asks that make a difference in the world. 00:35:13 - Opportunity Cost and Saying No, Vanessa discusses the concept of opportunity cost and how every time we say yes to something, we are saying no to other opportunities. She highlights the need to intentionally consider the opportunity cost of our decisions and the importance of saying no to things that don't align with our values and goals. 00:37:10 - The (Non)Selfishness of Saying No, Vanessa challenges the notion that saying no is selfish, explaining that it is actually selfish for someone to ask us to do something that doesn't matter to us or leverage our strengths. She encourages individuals to recognize their right to say no and not feel guilty about it. 00:38:02 - Tips and Resources for Saying No, Melina mentions that Vanessa's book provides valuable tips and strategies for saying no, especially in different situations such as with bosses. Vanessa emphasizes the power of an empowered refusal, which effectively conveys your stance based on your values and priorities. She encourages individuals to own their no's and not make excuses or be wishy washy -- own those nos! 00:39:04 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don’t forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.  I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let’s connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina’s Books.  Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: The Power of Saying No, by Vanessa Patrick Influence Is Your Superpower, by Zoe Chance You Have More Influence Than You Think, by Vanessa Bohns Magic Words, by Jonah Berger What Your Employees Need and Can’t Tell You, by Melina Palmer Connect with Vanessa:  Vanessa on Twitter Follow Vanessa on LinkedIn Vanessa’s Website Top Recommended Next Episode: Influence Is Your Superpower, with Zoe Chance (ep 308) Already Heard That One? Try These:  Behavioral Science in the Wild, with Dilip Soman (ep 241) Framing (ep 296) You Have More Influence Than You Think, with Vanessa Bohns (ep 197) Influence, with Robert Cialdini (ep 157) Getting Along, with Amy Gallo (ep 269) A More Just Future, with Dolly Chugh (ep 247) Priming (ep 252) Framing (ep 296) Magic Words, with Jonah Berger (ep 301) Game Theory (ep 228) Inequity Aversion (ep 224) Mental Accounting (ep 282) Get It Done, with Ayelet Fishbach (ep 186) Defaults (ep 38) Subtract, with Leidy Klotz (ep 162) Other Important Links:  Brainy Bites - Melina’s LinkedIn Newsletter

Dr. Zoe Chance emphasizes the importance of examining problems from different perspectives and setting long-term goals for success. Approaching problem-solving differently can result in innovative solutions that others might overlook. By aligning these objectives with Zoe's "magic question," individuals can foster a sense of collaboration and create opportunities for progress. Throughout the podcast, Dr. Chance shares stories of how people have successfully applied the magic question in various situations. For instance, she recounts the story of Gloria Steinem, who addressed the issue of sex trafficking in a Zambian village by asking the magic question, leading to a revelation that an electric fence was required to protect crops from elephants. Such examples reinforce the importance of aligning long-term goals with the magic question in order to effectively influence and create meaningful change. This episode, which features many insights from Zoe's book, Influence is Your Superpower, also highlights the importance of saying "No" (with a challenge to do so to every request for 24 hours) and the interesting way she set up her book chapters (along with some tips for aspiring authors). In this episode, you will be able to: Enhance your connections and communication through the strength of influence. Achieve better work-life balance by saying 'no' and outlining clear-cut boundaries. Embrace an innovative way of addressing problems and designing future targets. Comprehend the workings of decision-making and how to convince others with competence. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina introduces Zoe Chance and her book Influence Is Your Superpower. She highlights the relevance of the topic to the upcoming guest, Vanessa Patrick's book, The Power of Saying No. 00:03:24 - From Theater to Sales, Zoe talks about her experience in theater and how it helped her develop the skills to communicate, move, and connect with people. She also narrates her experience in sales, door-to-door sales, telemarketing, and marketing, where she learned about rejection and the importance of being comfortable with saying (and hearing) no. 00:06:44 - The Power of No, Zoe introduces her 24-hour no challenge, which she did for a whole month one November, and the 24-hour no challenge she gives her students. She explains how saying no can help build healthy relationships and create space in one's life. She also emphasizes the importance of not justifying one's no and the need to disentangle the request from the relationship. 00:10:23 - Handling Objections, Zoe talks about handling objections in sales training, addressing all the different kinds of objections that someone might have. She reveals that most sales training is about handling objections. She adds that it is often a good idea not to justify one's no because it can create a way for them to convince you to change your mind. 00:13:00 - The Worst Thing They Can Say is No, Zoe explains the mindset that "the worst thing they can say is no," -- how this is both helpful and harmful. 00:15:33 - Framing and Half Chapters, Zoe discusses her use of framing in her book, Influence Is Your Superpower, and how she structured the chapters to include shorter chapters between longer ones to create more momentum and ease of reading. She also shares her love for Harry Potter and how she used references to create a little magic for readers. 00:19:16 - The Magic of Harry Potter, Melina and Zoe bond over their love for Harry Potter and share their experiences visiting the Harry Potter Studios outside London. They discuss the level of thoughtfulness and detail that went into creating the world of Harry Potter and how it inspires them in their own work. 00:23:49 - The Power of Framing, Zoe explains the concept of framing and shares an example from her idol, Derren Brown, a mind reader and illusionist who is a master at directing attention. She discusses how framing works to focus our attention on one thing and make us ignore everything else, and how this is a metaphor for how our brain makes decisions. 00:29:22 - The Influence of Derren Brown, Melina and Zoe discuss the work of Derren Brown and how he is an expert in influence, even though he is not an academic. They share examples of how he uses questioning techniques to get people to believe certain things and how he can get them to choose something different from what they originally wanted. 00:31:38 - The Importance of Experimentation, Zoe emphasizes the importance of experimentation in behavioral science and how it is critical to test and iterate on things. 00:31:31 - Setting Goals and The Magic Question, Dr. Zoe Chance shares tips on setting long-term goals and using the magic question to collaborate and problem-solve with others. The magic question involves asking "What it would take...?" to achieve a specific goal or overcome an obstacle. By doing this, it shifts the mindset from resistance to collaboration, and the other person becomes committed to supporting the outcome. 00:35:20 - Personal Journey of Transformation, The book Influence Is Your Superpower is a personal journey of transformation to becoming someone that people want to say yes to. It provides readers with the tools needed to gain influence through personal and professional relationships. The book is focused on collaboration and problem-solving to achieve goals. 00:37:06 - Connecting with Zoe Chance, The best way to get the book Influence Is Your Superpower is through Zoe Chance's website, Zoechance.com. You can connect with her on Twitter, where she shares tips and engages with readers. She encourages readers to share how they use the tips from the book. 00:38:39 - Using the Magic Question, The magic question "What would it take?" is a simple yet powerful tool that can be used to achieve goals and overcome obstacles. It involves asking the other person what it would take to achieve a specific goal or overcome an obstacle. This approach shifts the mindset from resistance to collaboration and helps to identify the roadmap needed to achieve the desired outcome. 00:39:14 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don’t forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.  I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let’s connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina’s Books.  Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: Influence Is Your Superpower, by Zoe Chance You Have More Influence Than You Think, by Vanessa Bohns Magic Words, by Jonah Berger The Power of Saying No, by Vanessa Patrick What Your Employees Need and Can’t Tell You, by Melina Palmer Connect with Zoe:  Zoe on Twitter Follow Zoe on LinkedIn Zoe’s Website Top Recommended Next Episode: A More Beautiful Question, with Warren Berger (ep 200) Already Heard That One? Try These:  Framing (ep 296) You Have More Influence Than You Think, with Vanessa Bohns (ep 197) Influence, with Robert Cialdini (ep 157) 5 Years, 299 Episodes, These Are Your Favorites (ep 299) Getting Along, with Amy Gallo (ep 269) A More Just Future, with Dolly Chugh (ep 247) Non-Obvious Thinking, with Rohit Bhargava (ep 297) What is Questionstorming? (ep 215) Priming (ep 252) Framing (ep 296) What is Cognitive Semiotics? With Sarah Thompson (ep 259) Leveraging Metaphor, with Olson Zaltman (ep 181)  Magic Words, with Jonah Berger (ep 301) The Sense of Sight (episode 24) The IKEA Effect (ep 112) Other Important Links:  Brainy Bites - Melina’s LinkedIn Newsletter Zoe’s Yale Faculty Page How to Make a Behavior Addictive: Zoë Chance at TEDxMillRiver Derren Brown, The Apocalypse Derren Brown, Perfect Present

Mentorship is a critical component of personal and professional growth. A supportive mentor enables mentees to develop critical skills, make better decisions, and achieve their goals faster by providing guidance, perspective, and encouragement along their journey. Furthermore, mentors benefit by expanding their network, reinforcing their knowledge, and deriving satisfaction from contributing to the success of others. Mentorship is a valuable, reciprocal relationship that fosters learning, development, and change for both the mentor and mentee. In the podcast, Scott Miller shares his insight into how mentorship can impact individuals in various aspects of life. He offers personal stories and experiences, highlighting the importance of recognizing the potential mentorship opportunities that exist beyond traditional boundaries. By emphasizing the powerful and transformative effects of mentorship, Miller encourages listeners to actively pursue mentoring relationships that enrich personal and professional lives, and explains the 13 roles mentors play, based on information in his book The Ultimate Guide to Great Mentorship. In this episode: Unveil the importance of mentorship and why anyone can be a mentor. Decode the 13 essential roles of mentors in guiding their mentees. Realize the value of genuine feedback and vulnerability in fostering strong mentor-mentee connections. Examine the lifelong benefits that mentorship can provide for you and your career. Identify how everything from setting boundaries to celebrating matters in the mentor-mentee relationship (and some language to help you along your way!) Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Scott Miller is a multi best-selling author, special advisor on thought leadership for the Franklin Covey Company, and a globally celebrated keynote speaker. He has previously been a guest on The Brainy Business podcast to discuss his books Marketing Mess to Brand Success and Management Mess to Leadership Success. In today's episode, he talks about his new book, The Ultimate Guide to Great Mentorship. 00:06:42 - Importance of Mentorship, Mentorship is a key part of companies' employee development plans. However, most people don't know what to do as a mentor. Scott wrote The Ultimate Guide to Great Mentorship to help people become better mentors. The book outlines 13 roles that all mentors can play, which will help them ask better questions, be more patient, and be more thoughtful. 00:10:16 - Informal Mentorship, Scott shares the story of how Bruce Williams, a radio host who has since passed away, became a mentor to him without ever knowing it. This highlights the importance of informal mentorship and how people can redefine what mentorship looks like. For example, by following favorite bloggers or podcasts, those thought leaders can be a mentor to you (even if you never talk to them and they don’t know your name). 00:14:21 - The Power of Mentorship, Scott and Melina discuss the impact of mentorship on individuals and society, highlighting the importance of having a framework for effective mentorship. Scott introduces his book, The Ultimate Guide to Great Mentorship, and introduces the 13 roles a mentor can play. 00:17:32 - The 13 Roles of Great Mentorship, Scott discusses the 13 roles a mentor can play outlined in his book, emphasizing that a mentor may not necessarily play all 13 roles and why they need to adapt their role depending on the mentee's situation (you aren’t just one “type” of mentor, you need to wear multiple hats during your time as a mentor). He highlights the importance of having an awareness of these roles and how they can be used to support a mentee effectively. 00:21:01 - The Importance of Validation in Mentorship, Scott shares his personal story of being validated by a stranger at a young age, which had a profound impact on his life. He emphasizes the role of the Validator in mentorship and the power of validating a mentee's genius, skill, and talent. He provides tips for how to effectively validate a mentee and how this can be a transition point for them to move towards more effective mindsets. 00:23:05 - Scott's Six-Step Closing Process, Scott introduces his six-step closing process, which includes naming what has been learned from the mentee, validating their genius, and setting them on their way. He emphasizes the importance of taking away something from each mentor session and using it to improve oneself. 00:28:34 - Caution for the Validator, The Validator role in mentoring should be used with care. Rather than validating mentees for small actions, acknowledge their genius, and give them lifelong courage to retrieve it when they need it. 00:32:41 - The Flagger Role, The Flagger is the challenger on steroids, who stops a conversation in its tracks to challenge an idea. Diplomatically flagging issues prevents potential conflict in the future. 00:37:57 - The Boundary Setter, Setting boundaries is an uncomfortable yet essential conversation that every mentor needs to have. Mismatched or unfulfilled expectations cause most conflicts in life, and setting clear boundaries is key to avoiding any potential issues. Scott provides some sample language the listener can use in their own mentoring sessions immediately. 00:41:24 - Honing in on Boundaries, It's important to have a clear understanding of each other's boundaries in mentorship. Starting with an uncomfortable conversation about boundaries can prevent future awkwardness and allow for a more productive relationship. 00:42:53 - Importance of Situational Mentorship, Scott emphasizes the importance of situational mentorship and tailoring conversations to the mentee's needs. He suggests checking out greatmentorship.com for videos and tools, and invites people to connect with him on social media. 00:44:27 - Scott's Impact on Melina, Melina thanks Scott for being a mentor to her, and Scott reflects on how anyone can be a mentor (with or without realizing it). They encourage listeners to reflect on who has impacted their lives and consider sharing their gratitude with them. 00:45:00 - What is Mentorship?, Melina and Scott discuss the meaning of mentorship and how it can be informal and brief. They encourage listeners to reflect on the mentors in their lives and consider sharing their impact with them. 00:46:19 - Reflecting on Impactful Moments, Melina encourages listeners to reflect on small or big moments that were impactful and consider who was part of them. She suggests telling mentors how they have impacted their lives and invites listeners to connect with her and Scott on social media. 00:46:30 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don’t forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.  I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let’s connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina’s Books.  Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: The Ultimate Guide to Great Mentorship, by Scott Miller Management Mess to Leadership Success, by Scott Miller Marketing Mess to Brand Success, by Scott Miller Fierce Conversations, by Susan Scott What Your Employees Need and Can’t Tell You, by Melina Palmer Connect with Scott:  Scott on Instagram Follow Scott on LinkedIn Scott’s Website Top Recommended Next Episode: Management Mess to Leadership Success, with Scott Miller (ep 69) Already Heard That One? Try These:  Marketing Mess to Brand Success, with Scott Miller (ep 156) Overcoming Imposter Syndrome (ep 306) Change Management: It’s Not About The Cookie (ep 226) Anchoring and Adjustment (ep 11) Relativity (ep 12) On-Air Coaching Call with Mariel Court (ep 10) Secrets of Motivation and Incentives with Tim Houlihan (ep 109) The IKEA Effect (ep 112) Priming (ep 252) Framing (ep 296) The Brainy Benefits of Gratitude (ep 248) Celebrate! It’s More Important Than You Think (ep 236) Stressed and Overcommitted? Tips to Overcome Planning Fallacy (ep 114) Other Important Links:  Brainy Bites - Melina’s LinkedIn Newsletter Scott’s Site: GreatMentorship.com

Self-doubt can be a significant barrier to success in business, holding individuals back from pursuing opportunities or capitalizing on their strengths. Overcoming self-doubt requires anyone in business (especially entrepreneurs) to develop a positive mindset, embrace their expertise, and trust their instincts in decision-making. By actively combating self-doubt and harnessing confidence, entrepreneurs can overcome the obstacles holding them back, paving the way for professional and personal growth. Host Melina Palmer emphasizes the importance of overcoming self-doubt in the episode, offering practical advice for those grappling with imposter syndrome or a lack of confidence. She endorses the use of daily affirmations, practice in speaking confidently, and actively engaging in activities that boost self-esteem. By overcoming self-doubt, entrepreneurs can unleash their full potential, contribute positively to their businesses' success, and advance toward the realization of their goals and ambitions. In this episode, you will be able to: Realize the significance of a positive attitude in boosting entrepreneurial achievements. Master techniques to conquer impostor syndrome through role-playing and self-assurance methods. Grasp how flexible thinking can break barriers and facilitate entry into new markets or pricing changes. Learn about anchoring and adjustment to establish pragmatic and rational goals. Appreciate the influential role of mentorship in sculpting personal and career advancements. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina welcomes listeners to episode 306 of The Brainy Business podcast, which is all about adjusting one's mindset and overcoming impostor syndrome, particularly when it comes to pricing. She encourages listeners to be open-minded and ready to adjust their anchors, priming, and mindset to achieve their goals. 00:03:36 - Mindset Challenges, Melina notes that mindset issues can make or break one's business and impact confidence around pricing and offerings. She emphasizes the need for listeners to be aware of vicious cycles that can drag them down and to focus on virtuous cycles such as the confidence-competence loop. Melina recommends practicing saying new prices aloud, building one's confidence and training one's brain to project confidence. 00:08:25 - The Role of Confidence, Melina shares her experience working at Alaska Airlines and how her training there helped her project confidence when quoting prices. She explains how projecting confidence is vital in sales and how, regardless of the price, one needs to say it confidently without hesitation. Melina also shares how her first agency job helped shape her mindset about billable hours and not discounting on the back end. 00:11:45 - The Importance of Confidence, Melina highlights how projecting confidence is essential when quoting prices and how the subconscious brain of buyers pick up on the slightest sense of hesitation. She advises listeners to train their brains by practicing saying new prices aloud, projecting confidence, and speaking as if they were telling someone the weather. 00:16:22 - Mindset is Key for Success, Melina emphasizes the importance of having a positive mindset and believing in your worth. She explains that having the right mindset is crucial in pricing conversations, networking events, live videos, and other situations where you need to show your worth. 00:17:35 - Setting Realistic Anchors, Melina talks about the behavioral economics of mindset, specifically anchoring and adjustment and relativity. She explains that we tend to set an unrealistic anchor by comparing ourselves to top-performers in our industry, which can result in feeling stuck and not taking action. She advises resetting your anchor to where you are now and taking small steps each day. 00:19:31 - Setting Achievable Goals, Melina encourages listeners to focus on where they are now instead of setting unrealistic goals for the future. She emphasizes the importance of taking small steps each day and adjusting your anchor to the present offering you have out there. She also highlights the importance of long-term planning sessions and having goals for where you want to get to eventually. 00:21:07 - Overcoming Self-Doubt, Melina acknowledges that self-doubt and imposter syndrome are common among many people. She advises listeners to take small steps each day to gain more competence and confidence. She also shares some Dr. Seuss quotes that she finds inspiring and applicable to mindset. 00:28:19 - The Importance of Mentorship, Melina talks about her upcoming episode with Scott Miller (307), where they will be discussing his new book. The Ultimate Guide to Great Mentorship. 00:29:04 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don’t forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.  I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let’s connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina’s Books.  Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: The Power of Us, by Dominic Packer and Jay Van Bavel Magic Words, by Jonah Berger A More Beautiful Question, by Warren Berger Both/And Thinking, by Wendy Smith and Marianne Lewis The Power of Saying No, by Vanessa Patrick Top Recommended Next Episode: Management Mess to Leadership Success, with Scott Miller (ep 69) Already Heard That One? Try These:  Anchoring & Adjustment (ep 11) Relativity (ep 12) The Truth About Pricing (ep 5) Priming (ep 252) Framing (ep 296) Leveraging Metaphor, with Olson Zaltman (ep 181)  Overview of Personal Biases (episode 45) Herding (episode 264) Overwhelm and its Impact on Decisions (ep 32) Selective Attention Biases (ep 50) Ultimate Pricing Confidence (ep 66) How to Set, Achieve, and Exceed Brainy Goals (ep 70) Prefactual Thinking (ep 232) Counterfactual Thinking (ep 286) How To Stack and Bundle Products and Services (ep 84) How To Raise Your Prices (ep 77) Other Important Links:  Brainy Bites - Melina’s LinkedIn Newsletter Yes, Impostor Syndrome Is Real. Here’s How to Deal With It Cognition and Performance: the Relation to Neural Mechanisms of Consequence, Confidence, and Competence 37 Dr. Seuss Quotes That Can Change the World

To build authentic brand connections with customers, it is essential for marketing professionals to understand the unique cultural context within which their target audience exists. This encompasses not only the cultural values and beliefs of the intended market but also the broader societal context within which these individuals reside. By accurately identifying their congregation (NOT target market) and their specific cultural attributes, marketers can create tailored messaging that communicates more effectively with the intended consumer base. In the podcast, Dr. Marcus Collins discusses his experience working with various brands, such as Beyoncé, Budweiser, and the Brooklyn Nets, that have built authentic connections with their customers by leveraging behavioral science. As a marketing professor and industry professional, Collins emphasizes the importance of finding a "congregation" of like-minded individuals who share the same beliefs, values, and attitudes as the brand. By focusing on these shared attributes, companies can create more genuine and meaningful relationships with their customers, fostering loyalty and a sense of real connection. In this episode, you will: Understand the significance of culture in crafting effective marketing campaigns. Realize the potential of focusing on a congregation over a target market for greater influence. Grasp the art of blending brand values with cultural norms to create authentic connections. Appreciate the benefits of a humble approach in navigating the ever-changing societal landscape. Analyze successful implementations of cultural marketing by leading companies. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Host Melina Palmer introduces Dr. Marcus Collins, an award-winning marketer, cultural translator, and author of For the Culture. 00:02:21 - Dr. Marcus Collins' Background, Dr. Collins talks about his background, growing up in Detroit, studying engineering, and his journey into marketing, including working at Apple and running digital strategy for Beyoncé. 00:06:29 - Importance of Culture, Dr. Collins explains the importance of culture and how it influences people's behavior and decision-making. He believes that understanding and respecting culture is crucial for businesses to effectively connect with their audiences. 00:09:40 - Learning About People, Marcus shares a pivotal moment in his career when he realized that his understanding of social media was limited because he didn't understand people. This realization led him to study human behavior and psychology, which has been instrumental in his work as a marketer. 00:14:13 - Marketing to Diverse Audiences, Dr. Collins discusses the importance of marketing to diverse audiences and the challenges that come with it. He emphasizes the need for businesses to go beyond surface-level diversity and truly understand different cultures and communities. 00:14:22 - The Power of Influence, Marcus Collins talks about the power of influence and how he became a better practitioner by studying network theory and the social sciences. He also shares how theory helped him launch campaigns for the Brooklyn Nets and Budweiser. 00:15:45 - Career Journey, Marcus Collins shares his journey from wanting to study musical theater to becoming a marketer and eventually pursuing a doctoral degree in sociology. He also talks about the importance of having mentors. 00:19:13 - Learning from Dan Ariely, Marcus shares his experience of being connected to Dan Ariely. Melina also shares about the kind nature of Dan. They collectively agree on the power of asking questions and being generous with others. 00:22:06 - Consumer Culture Theory, Marcus Collins talks about his doctoral research on consumer culture theory and how he became interested in the role of culture in understanding consumer behavior. He also discusses the evolution of marketing, from using psychology to sociology to culture to better understand people. 00:27:21 - Find a Congregation, Marcus discusses the importance of finding a congregation – or a group of people who share your values and beliefs – rather than a generic target market. He emphasizes the need for brands to focus on building a community and connecting with their audience on a deeper level. 00:28:37 - Understanding People and Business, People are at the core of business. Culture is anchored in our identity, and our identity is the character in the story we tell ourselves. Therefore, companies should target people who see the world the way they do, and those people will not only consume but also tell other people like them. 00:31:23 - Finding the Congregation, The biggest cheat code for understanding the underlying physics of humanity is behavioral sciences. Consumption is a cultural act, and our consumption is a product of our cultural subscription. Therefore, companies should focus on finding the congregation of people who see the world the way they do, and those people will do the marketing and communication for them. 00:35:01 - Relating it to Nike's Core Belief, Nike believes that every human body is an athlete, and they exist to help people realize their best athletic self. Nike talks to athletes, not people who just buy sneakers. They preach the gospel to their congregation, which is made up of many tribes who see the world the way they do. And those people not only consume but also share the gospel with other people. 00:38:55 - Consumption is a Cultural Act, Understanding the underlying physics of humanity is the biggest cheat code for any profession, whether you're an accountant, finance person, marketer, HR, leader, or C-suite. Consumption is a cultural act, and our consumption is a product of our cultural subscription. Therefore, companies should leverage the behavioral sciences to segment, target, and activate the market. 00:44:06 - Theoretical vs. Practical, Marcus Collins discusses how everything is theoretical in social sciences and how he spends more time contextualizing his explanations than teaching theories. He talks about how he breaks down complex ideas for students, and this approach has helped him socialize thinking within organizations. 00:45:16 - Humility in Academia, Collins talks about approaching academia from a humble place and realizing that everything is based on what is known at present. He believes that looking at the world from a more humble state has helped him be a better corporate citizen and partner. 00:47:53 - Melina's Closing Thoughts, Palmer discusses the idea of building a congregation of listeners and how understanding identities and tribalism can help businesses connect with consumers. She encourages listeners to consider what their brand could do to embrace culture and create a mutual benefit for everyone involved. 00:49:20 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don’t forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.  I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let’s connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina’s Books.  Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: For The Culture, by Marcus Collins Predictably Irrational, by Dan Ariely Thinking Fast and Slow, by Daniel Kahneman Influence, by Robert Cialdini What Your Employees Need and Can’t Tell You, by Melina Palmer Connect with Marcus:  Marcus on Twitter Follow Marcus on LinkedIn Marcus’ Website Top Recommended Next Episode: Dan Ariely – What is Shapa? (ep 101) Already Heard That One? Try These:  Social Proof (ep 87)  Neuroscience and Psychology in business, with Matt Johnson (ep 160) Branding That Means Business, with Matt Johnson (ep 231) Why We Like The Things We Like, with Prince Ghuman (ep 172) Secrets of Motivation and Incentives with Tim Houlihan (ep 109) Habits (ep 256) Dr. Robert Cialdini and the (Now!) 7 Principles of Persuasion (episode 157) The Network Effect (ep 262) The Endowment Effect (ep 139) The IKEA Effect (ep 112) Priming (ep 252) Framing (ep 296) Using Semiotics in Retail, with Rachel Lawes (ep 191) What is Cognitive Semiotics? With Sarah Thompson (ep 259) Multinarrative Storytelling, with Troy Campbell (ep 293) The Life-Saving Skill of Story, with Michelle Auerbach (ep 288) Other Important Links:  Brainy Bites - Melina’s LinkedIn Newsletter

Effective leadership involves being aware of and managing one's social identities within the workplace. To foster a sense of teamwork and shared purpose, leaders should focus on building an environment where employees feel heard, understood, and valued. This not only strengthens group dynamics but also reduces the instances of us-versus-them mentalities. Packer shared insights on how leaders can better manage their social identities, emphasizing the need to validate group identities continually based on his research and book, The Power of Us. He warned against potential pitfalls when employees get promoted, urging them to be cautious of their friendships at lower organizational levels. Packer underscored the importance of ensuring actions don't alienate leaders from the rest of the group, as this can negatively impact their ability to lead effectively. In this episode, you will: Discover how group identity influences individual behavior and decision-making. Explore strategies for maintaining unity while encouraging constructive dissent within teams. Uncover the nuances of identity shifts, allowing you to better understand and predict consumer behavior. Learn about the critical role diversity and inclusion play in collaborative environments. Gain insights on translating group behavior principles to foster a thriving organizational culture. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina welcomes Dr. Dominic Packer to the podcast and introduces the topic of the power of group identity and collective behavior, as featured in Dominic's book, The Power of Us. 00:02:22 - Shifting Identities, Melina and Dominic discuss the multiple aspects of identity and how individuals shift between different identities based on context and group membership. 00:05:16 - Writing Through the Pandemic, The conversation shifts to the challenges of writing a book with a co-author during the pandemic, including the need for accountability and social support. (With lessons any aspiring author can use today.) 00:08:41 - Influence of Group Norms, Dominic explains how group norms can influence behavior through social pressure, informational influence, and signaling of group identity. 00:10:12 - Types of Identity, The three types of identity – personal, relational, and collective – are discussed, with a focus on how collective identities can become emotionally important and drive decision-making. 00:14:59 - The Flexibility of Identity, Identity is not only discerning, but also flexible, malleable, and adaptive to current circumstances. People have a readiness to identify, and a new way of categorizing ourselves can create a new identity. The story of two brothers who split their shoe making business in Germany during WWII divided a town into a fierce rivalry. This shows how categorizing the world can produce identities and group-based differences. 00:19:43 - Cooperating Opportunities with Others, Groups are fundamental to human survival, and we tend to band together for collective achievements. A thing we have in common with others is an opportunity to cooperate. By extending a little more trust to others and receiving a little more trust from them in return, it facilitates collaboration and allows groups to achieve things that they couldn't achieve on their own. 00:23:13 - Multileveled Identities, Lower-level identities in company corporate situations like different divisions or units are not necessarily bad. One solution to reduce tensions and rivalries between the lower-level identities is to shift people's focus from their lower level identity to their higher level identity, the superordinate identity, which is the company as a whole. Companies need to create conditions that bring people together through common goals and shift people's focus from their lower-level identity to their higher-level identity. 00:25:45 - Incentive Structures and Resource Allocation, Leaders need to create conditions by which people can see themselves as part of something larger than just their immediate experience. 00:29:56 - The Importance of Divergent Opinions in Groups, It is important for groups to have divergent opinions and new ideas to innovate and become more productive in the long term. Dissenting behavior is often seen as annoying or slowing down the group, which could be a threat, but that isn't the whole story. The most identified group members are the most likely to dissent because they care a lot about the group. It is important for leaders to create a psychologically safe environment where people feel comfortable speaking up and being critical. 00:35:59 - Tips for Creating a Culture of Dissent, It is important to distinguish between dissenters who are trying to change the group in a positive way and troublemakers who stir up trouble just to be difficult. Leaders should encourage a culture where dissenters who are positively motivated feel comfortable speaking up, engage in behaviors themselves that validate the group's identity, and make sure they embody it. Leaders should avoid behaviors that differentiate them too much from the rest of the group and reduce large-scale pay discrepancies between people at the top of an organization and the average employee. 00:39:15 - Leadership and Managing Social Identities, Leaders need to manage the social identities of the people they are leading, foster it, build it, and help people experience it and see it. A fundamental idea that arises from this is that followers are much more likely to be inspired and motivated by leaders who they see as one of us, that they see as possessing an identity in common. Leaders need to engage in behaviors themselves that are continually validating of an identity, reduce things that can work against that, 00:45:10 - Balancing Identity and Groups, Dominic Packer discusses the importance of balancing identity and groups, how our identities shift throughout the day, and how it affects what we buy and consume. He emphasizes the need for leaders to understand their roles within different groups and how they can be more effective members of the global collective. 00:46:28 - Key Takeaways, Melina reflects on the importance of understanding how easily we can be influenced by our identities and group affiliations. She highlights the concept of the "Town of Bent Necks" and sibling rivalries that can change what we buy and wear. She encourages listeners to read both The Power of Us and For the Culture, two books that teach valuable lessons for anyone in business. 00:48:14 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don’t forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.  I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let’s connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina’s Books.  Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: The Power of Us, by Dominic Packer and Jay Van Bavel Magic Words, by Jonah Berger For The Culture, by Marcus Collins How Minds Change, by David McRaney What Your Employees Need and Can’t Tell You, by Melina Palmer Connect with Jonah:  Dominic on Twitter Follow Dominic on LinkedIn The Power of Us Website Top Recommended Next Episode: Social Proof (ep 87)  Already Heard That One? Try These:  Biases Toward Others – Including Groups (episode 46) Priming (ep 252) Framing (ep 296) Using Semiotics in Retail, with Rachel Lawes (ep 191) What is Cognitive Semiotics? With Sarah Thompson (ep 259) Leveraging Metaphor, with Olson Zaltman (ep 181)  Multinarrative Storytelling, with Troy Campbell (ep 293) The Life-Saving Skill of Story, with Michelle Auerbach (ep 288) Overview of Personal Biases (episode 45) Herding (episode 264) The Science of Opinions, with Dr. Andy Luttrell (episode 173) Dr. Robert Cialdini and the (Now!) 7 Principles of Persuasion (episode 157) Incentives – The “N” In NUDGES (episode 272) Only 1% of People Blow the Whistle at Work—How to Fix That, with Nuala Walsh (episode 153) Priming (episode 252) Other Important Links:  Brainy Bites - Melina’s LinkedIn Newsletter The Power of Us Newsletter

The importance of data visualization cannot be overstated, as it plays a crucial role in making complex data accessible, engaging, and actionable. Presenting data in a way that clearly communicates an underlying narrative or message can lead to more effective decision-making and a deeper understanding of data-driven insights. Additionally, data visualization assists in conveying these messages to different audiences, ensuring that the information is received and interpreted accurately. In her conversation with Melina Palmer, Sarah Kay Miller discusses the importance of crafting a narrative with data visualization and how it can effectively communicate complex information. She notes that data visualization is not merely about producing visually appealing designs but also about presenting data in such a way that resonates with the intended audience. Throughout their discussion, Miller emphasizes the importance of thoughtfulness and creativity in creating meaningful data art. In this episode: Delve into the captivating realm of data visualization and data art to transform information processing. Understand the difference between data visualization and data art. Appreciate the critical connection between narrative and impactful data visualization and data art. Obtain key pointers to design compelling data visuals that resonate with diverse audiences. Identify the value of thought-provoking comparisons for maximum effectiveness in data presentations. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina introduces the Brainy Business podcast and welcomes Sarah Kay Miller, a data visualization designer, to the show. She also announces the 5-year anniversary of the podcast and the data art created by Sarah Kay to celebrate the milestone. 00:02:29 - About Sarah Kay Miller, Sarah Kay Miller is an independent data visualization designer with a background in graphic design. She defines data visualization as the process of visualizing data, making it more intuitive for humans to understand patterns, trends, and comparisons. Data art, on the other hand, is a broader category of creative endeavors that draw inspiration from or are touched by data. 00:05:00 - Data Visualization vs. Data Art, The line between data visualization and data art is blurry. Data visualization involves creating charts and graphs that help people understand data more intuitively, while data art is a creative endeavor that draws inspiration from data sets. Both are necessary and can be used in different contexts. 00:08:00 - Process of Data Visualization, Sarah Kay Miller spends a lot of time investigating data sets and collaborating with clients to understand domain expertise. Data visualization involves threading a narrative through the data to make it more interesting and engaging. It allows people to communicate messages, insights, or ideas more effectively. 00:13:21 - Sarah Kay's Process, Sarah Kay Miller's process involves three main phases: groundwork, design, and iteration. She elaborates on each phase and how she approaches them. 00:15:37 - Designing Data Visualizations, Sarah Kay Miller talks about her process of designing data visualizations. She discusses how she dives into the data and visualizes it in many ways -- everything from basic charts to the more elaborate and artistic. She also talks about the importance of understanding brand identity and color palettes when designing. 00:17:08 - Insights from Data Visualization, Miller shares her insights from visualizing data from The Brainy Business podcast. She talks about the upward trend in podcast downloads since 2018 and the number of downloads per episode. Melina and Sarah Kay also discuss the impact of the first two episodes on listeners, and how people tend to go back and listen to the earlier episodes. 00:22:49 - Design Ideas & Brand Identity, Miller talks about her design ideas for The Brainy Business podcast. She discusses the importance of staying within the brand identity of the podcast and how she used inspiration from the typography of the logo to create a groovy and energetic design. 00:27:03 - Final Product & Data Art, Miller shares the final product of her data visualization for The Brainy Business podcast. She talks about how she played with the layout of the circles to give it more movement and how she used a brighter blue to make it pop on thumbnails. She also talks about the importance of showcasing the global reach of the podcast and how everyone matters. 00:30:49 - Data Visualization as Data Art, Sarah discusses the importance of representing data in a visually appealing way and the power of data art to convey information. She talks about her love for creating unique and unusual chart types and how they can help tell a story. 00:34:05 - Fun Project on Architecture, Sarah shares details of a project she worked on for Space 10, a subsidiary of IKEA. She talks about how they created a data set for a visualization of the history of tools architects use and how digital tools have impacted building design. The end result was a comprehensive and beautiful data visualization that straddled both data visualization and data art. 00:40:53 - Data Visualization for Social Media, Sarah talks about the challenges of creating data visualizations for social media, where attention spans are shorter and space is limited. She discusses the importance of video and motion design in creating engaging and informative data stories for platforms like Instagram and TikTok. 00:43:51 - Time Required for Projects, Sarah explains that the timeline for a data visualization project varies depending on the scope, and collecting data can add time to the process. She suggests that two to three months is doable for a small to medium-sized project, but larger or more complex projects can take longer. 00:46:44 - The Importance of Data Visualization, The value of data art and visualization in effectively communicating data to viewers. She emphasizes the need to understand numbers and find meaningful comparisons to make data more relatable to humans. 00:47:25 - Impactful Data Visualization Examples, Melina shares about an article in The New York Times on vacant office spaces in New York City as an excellent example of impactful data visualization. The comparison of the number of vacant spaces to the Empire State Building makes the data more memorable and understandable. 00:48:01 - Pareto Principle in Data Visualization, The Pareto principle or 80/20 rule is discussed for data visualization. Melina recommends spending 80% of the time on the 20% of data that's most important or interesting to make the visualization more impactful. 00:48:34 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don’t forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.  I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let’s connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina’s Books.  Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: Magic Words, by Jonah Berger Getting Along, by Amy Gallo A More Just Future, by Dolly Chugh The Future Normal, by Rohit Bhargava What Your Customer Wants and Can’t Tell You, by Melina Palmer Connect with Jonah:  Sarah Kay on Instagram Follow Sarah Kay on LinkedIn Sarah Kay’s Website Top Recommended Next Episode: A More Beautiful Question, with Warren Berger (ep 200) Already Heard That One? Try These:  Getting Along, with Amy Gallo (ep 269) A More Just Future, with Dolly Chugh (ep 247) Non-Obvious Thinking, with Rohit Bhargava (ep 297) Sight or Vision? (ep 24) Power of Touch (ep 302) NUDGES and Choice Architecture (ep 35) What is Questionstorming? (ep 215) Priming (ep 252) Framing (ep 296) Social Proof (ep 87)  Using Semiotics in Retail, with Rachel Lawes (ep 191) What is Cognitive Semiotics? With Sarah Thompson (ep 259) Leveraging Metaphor, with Olson Zaltman (ep 181)  The Power of Us, with Dominic Packer (ep 178) Multinarrative Storytelling, with Troy Campbell (ep 293) The Life-Saving Skill of Story, with Michelle Auerbach (ep 288) Behavioral Storytelling, with David Paull (ep 289) Other Important Links:  Brainy Bites - Melina’s LinkedIn Newsletter Sarah’s work on Mindworks: The Science of Thinking

In the context of business, the sense of touch plays a crucial role in building emotional connections with consumers and driving their purchasing behavior. Understanding and harnessing the power of touch can significantly improve the perceived quality of products and services, strengthening the brand image and fostering customer loyalty. By integrating touch into marketing and branding efforts, entrepreneurs can create a multisensory experience that has a lasting impact on their target audience.  Melina Palmer emphasizes the importance of touch in business, discussing how it is directly connected to emotional language and can influence both our perceptions and actions. Throughout the podcast, she explores the science behind touch and how it can be strategically employed by businesses to engage consumers on a deeper level. Melina highlights the need for businesses to consider the various ways they can incorporate touch, ensuring it is utilized effectively and appropriately to deliver the desired effect. In this episode, you’ll: Discover the secrets behind utilizing touch in business for better connections and results. Learn why investing in thoughtful materials that align with your message boosts your brand image and customer satisfaction. Uncover the powerful connection between emotional and visual touch in material choices. Explore innovative ways to incorporate touch into service-based and virtual businesses. Get a sneak peek at Friday’s enlightening interview on the art of data visualization. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina welcomes listeners to a special episode on the sense of touch, which celebrates the five-year anniversary of The Brainy Business podcast. She talks about the importance of touch in our lives and how it is directly linked to emotional language. Melina also thanks listeners for their support and explains the purpose of the episode. 00:04:44 - How Touch Works, Melina explains that the skin has many nerve endings, and they all have different jobs of being receptive to temperature, pressure, or pain. She also discusses the concept of relativity and how it impacts our sense of touch. Melina compares the subconscious brain to a small child and how emotional touch and sensation are closely linked. 00:09:06 - Touch and Teamwork, Melina discusses the importance of human contact, especially touch, on our development throughout our lives. She explains how touch impacts the overall effectiveness of teams and cites a study from UC Berkeley that found NBA teams who engaged in more celebratory touch won more games and played better together. 00:14:22 - The Power of Touch in Business, Melina talks about the impact of touch in business, including the endowment effect, perceived ownership, and loss aversion. She explains how touch triggers these concepts and increases the value of products. Melina also discusses how touch impacts customer experience and how businesses can use it to their advantage. 00:19:34 - Touch Without Touch, Melina talks about the power of touch without touch, which is how even service-based businesses and those entirely online can leverage the sense of touch. Hint: your eyes are amazing! 00:16:32 - Incorporating Touch Appropriately, HR departments should be consulted to ensure touch is incorporated appropriately. Touch is a powerful tool for creating impressions, so it's important to be mindful of the message being conveyed through touch. 00:17:37 - The Power of Texture in Print, Texture plays a crucial role in creating a favorable impression in print materials. The texture of paper can say a lot about a business, and investing in high-quality materials can reflect positively on the brand. 00:20:14 - The Importance of Touch in Sales, Touch is a crucial element in sales, as it increases the sense of ownership that a person feels over an item. Even online sales can benefit from the power of touch, as images and descriptions can trigger perceived ownership and lead to buying. 00:23:11 - The Impact of Touch in Personal Interactions, Touch plays a significant role in personal interactions. Service businesses should consider how they interact with clients and what impression they are leaving, as touch is one of the key senses that people use to interpret others. 00:31:40 - How Touch Influences Perception, Touch influences perception, and people tend to associate touch terms with the way they interpret brands and people. It's important to consider the impression being left on others in interactions and what it means in touch terms. 00:34:04 - The Value of Touch and Concrete Concepts, Melina discusses the importance of touch and how it can make something feel real even when it's just words or an idea. She highlights the value of metaphors and concrete concepts in making ideas more relatable and actionable. This sets the foundation for the upcoming conversation with data artist Sarah K. Miller. 00:35:16 - Celebrating Five Years of The Brainy Business, Melina announces the upcoming five-year anniversary episode with data artist Sarah K. Miller. She encourages listeners to subscribe to the podcast and leave a review to help spread the word about making business more brain-friendly. She also highlights her book, What Your Customer Wants and Can't Tell You, which features the sense of touch in the priming chapter. 00:36:27 - Building Your Knowledge on the Sense of Touch, Melina encourages listeners to dig deeper into the sense of touch by exploring related past episodes, books, and articles. She emphasizes the importance of applying the senses in business and how they can help to drive action. 00:37:13 - Conclusion, Melina’s top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don’t forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.  I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let’s connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina’s Books.  Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: Evolutionary Ideas, by Sam Tatam What Your Customer Wants and Can’t Tell You, by Melina Palmer Marketing to Mindstates, by Will Leach Alchemy, by Rory Sutherland Magic Words, by Jonah Berger Top Recommended Next Episode: What is Cognitive Semiotics? (ep 257) Already Heard That One? Try These:  Priming (ep 252) Sight (ep 24) Hearing (ep 300) Taste (ep 26) Smell (ep 298) Loss Aversion (ep 9) Herding (ep 264) Change Management: It’s Still Not About The Cookie (ep 226) Your Guide to Create a Brainy Brand (ep 230) Rebrand, Refresh, or Reinforce? (ep 44) What Your Customer Wants and Can’t Tell You (ep 147) Evolutionary Ideas with Sam Tatam (ep 203) Mirror Neurons (ep 31) Endowment Effect (ep 139) Other Important Links:  Brainy Bites - Melina’s LinkedIn Newsletter The Science of Touching and Feeling | David Linden | TEDxUNC Grinch’s Heart Grows Sense of Touch New Study: When NBA Players Touch Teammates More, They and Their Teams Play Better Tactile Communication, Cooperation, and Performance: An Ethological Study of the NBA The Effect of Mere Touch on Perceived Ownership Visual Perception of Texture of Textiles

The power of language is paramount in any form of communication. How one utilizes language can significantly impact the outcome of conversations and the ability to persuade others. By understanding the intricacies of language and the psychology behind it, communicators can craft more effective messages that resonate with their target audience. With a focus on desired identities, motivations, and subtle shifts in language that can encourage or discourage behavior, communicators can directly influence the consumption and sharing of content.  During Jonah Berger's discussion with Melina Palmer, he stressed the importance of language and provided insights from his book, Magic Words. Dr. Berger highlighted the difference between nouns and verbs and how a slight modification in language, such as changing from "help" to "helper," could significantly alter the perception of the task at hand. By diving into the psychology behind language, Jonah offers practical tips to enhance communication, ensuring messages are better received and understood. He also briefly discusses one of his other books, Contagious (a favorite of Melina's!), and the SPEACC framework in Magic Words. Hone your ability to communicate powerfully through thoughtful language choices. Explore the influence of converting verbs into nouns in shaping personal and professional identities. Recognize the effect linguistic similarity has on building rapport and attaining success. Examine the role of cutting-edge technology in unbiased research and in-depth analysis. Understand the vital importance of concrete language in creating compelling marketing and communication tactics. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina Palmer introduces Dr. Jonah Berger, Wharton professor and author of the new book Magic Words. 00:05:24 - Tips for Making Content Viral, To make content stand out, communicators need to think less about the product or service they are selling and more about the audience and why they might want to share it. Understanding why people share is key to making word-of-mouth marketing effective. 00:08:28 - The Power of Language, Subtle shifts in language can have a big impact on persuasion. For example, calling someone a "helper" instead of asking them to "help" can increase the likelihood of them taking the action you want. Turning actions into identities can make people more likely to claim desired identities. 00:17:26 - The Power of Stories, Stories are powerful because they activate different parts of the brain and help people remember information better. To make a story more effective, focus on the emotions and how the story relates to the audience's experience. 00:24:31 - The Power of Social Influence, Social influence is powerful because people are more likely to take action if they see others doing it. To make social influence work for you, focus on the early adopters and influencers and make it easy for them to share your message. 00:12:52 - The Value of Metaphor and Concrete Language, Jonah discusses the importance of using concrete language to show others that we have heard them, and how this can lead to increased customer satisfaction. For example, saying “Your refund will be there soon” feels very different from “Your money will be in your account tomorrow.” The latter (which is more concrete) had increased customer satisfaction scores. He also explains the difference between concrete and abstract language and how it can be applied in different contexts. 00:16:13 - The SPEACC Framework, Jonah breaks down the six key types of language covered in his book and provides an overview of each one. These include the language of Similarity and difference, Posing questions, Emotion, Agency and identity, Concreteness, and Confidence. 00:18:12 - Linguistic Similarity, Jonah explains how linguistic similarity can be used to build relationships and connections in the workplace, and how it can even predict future outcomes such as promotions or employee turnover. He also discusses the benefits of being both similar and different in terms of content and language design. 00:19:40 - When to Use Concrete Language, Jonah discusses the research that shows when it is beneficial to use more abstract language, such as in the case of entrepreneurs pitching a business idea. He also explains the importance of adapting to the linguistic culture of a workplace and how it can impact career success. 00:21:34 - Language Similarity and Affiliation, Jonah provides examples of how linguistic similarity can impact personal relationships, such as speed dating or building friendships in the workplace. He also discusses the importance of linguistic cues like pauses and intonation in building trust and increasing positive perceptions. 00:25:47 - Making Your Brand an Identity, The importance of making your brand an identity for your customers, highlighting the significance of transitioning from a verb to a noun. By finding opportunities for customers to be a part of the brand, or the brand to be a part of them, companies can create a stronger connection with their audience. 00:27:13 - The Power of AI, Melina mentions how Jonah and his team use technology, including AI and machine learning, to analyze large amounts of data, which allows them to remove human bias and get results much faster. By using technology to their advantage, businesses can unlock valuable insights that may have been missed or too costly to produce. 00:28:47 - Insights from Magic Words, Jonah's book, Magic Words, provides insight into how language affects business outcomes. From using concrete language in pitches to predicting employee retention based on the language used in emails, businesses can use language as a tool for success. 00:29:31 - Finding Insights in Data, The insights found in Magic Words and Jonah's research demonstrate the power of analyzing data to uncover valuable insights. By asking great questions and using technology to analyze data, businesses can make informed decisions and achieve success. 00:29:44 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don’t forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.  I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let’s connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Join the BE Thoughtful Revolution – our free behavioral economics community, and keep the conversation going! Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina’s Books.  Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: Magic Words, by Jonah Berger Contagious, by Jonah Berger The Catalyst, by Jonah Berger Invisible Influence, by Jonah Berger What Your Customer Wants and Can’t Tell You, by Melina Palmer Connect with Jonah:  Jonah on Twitter Follow Jonah on LinkedIn Jonah’s Website Resources Top Recommended Next Episode: What is Cognitive Semiotics? With Sarah Thompson (ep 259) Already Heard That One? Try These:  A More Beautiful Question, with Warren Berger (ep 200) Priming (ep 252) Framing (ep 296) Social Proof (ep 87)  Using Semiotics in Retail, with Rachel Lawes (ep 191) Leveraging Metaphor, with Olson Zaltman (ep 181)  The Power of Us, with Dominic Packer (ep 178) Multinarrative Storytelling, with Troy Campbell (ep 293) The Life-Saving Skill of Story, with Michelle Auerbach (ep 288) Behavioral Storytelling, with David Paull (ep 289) Other Important Links:  Brainy Bites - Melina’s LinkedIn Newsletter Get Jonah’s Resources

The ability to identify and interpret sounds is a vital aspect of human existence, shaping how individuals interact with the world around them. Sound can be both comforting and distracting, encompassing a wide spectrum of experiences. For this reason, understanding the impact of sound in marketing can be a game-changer, as it allows businesses to create more immersive experiences for customers and foster an emotional connection. Moreover, sound can help guide consumer behavior, enhancing their experience with a brand or product. Melina Palmer emphasizes the significance of sound on human emotions and interactions, and how it can be harnessed in marketing to influence buying behavior. Analyzing the journey of sound waves as they travel from the eardrum to the brain, she identifies music as a particularly powerful element of sound, with the unique ability to provoke strong physical and emotional reactions. Discover the crucial role of hearing in successful marketing campaigns. Learn how music can effectively steer consumer choices. Uncover the remarkable influence of jingles on brand loyalty. Find out why sound can create different perceptions of price. Celebrate the milestone 300th episode and show appreciation to our loyal listeners. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina Palmer celebrates the podcast's 300 episode milestone (woo!) and explains about these refreshed episodes on senses. This episode discusses the sense of hearing and complements Melina's conversation with Jonah Berger (coming this Friday in episode 301), where they talk about his new book, Magic Words. 00:03:22 - How We Hear, Melina explains how sound waves turn into physical vibrations, which then stimulate tiny hairs in the ear that move molecules around and send signals to the brain for interpretation. The brain interprets the signals and determines what we're hearing. 00:08:12 - The Power of Sound, Sound has a significant impact on our ability to focus and perform. Noise-canceling headphones can help block out distractions, allowing people to focus better. Music is also powerful and can impact our bodies physically and emotionally. 00:11:14 - Music and the Brain, Humans are unique in their ability to understand, predict and interpret music. Music releases chemicals in the brain that can make people feel good or bad. It can also help people heal, as seen in studies with Parkinson's patients and those with brain injuries. 00:15:38 - Sound in Business, Atmospherics, including sounds, can be used in marketing to trigger emotional states that influence buying behavior. Restaurants can play faster music to turn over more clientele, while slower music can make people stay longer and buy more. 00:17:20 - Importance of Music in Stores, Studies show that stores need to carefully select brand-matching music to encourage shoppers to stay longer. Music that fit the brand persona increased time in store and the amount purchased. Familiar music may seem to make people stay longer, but in reality, it's the unknown music that has the increase. 00:19:31 - The Power of Jingles, Sound has a strong connection to memory, emotion, and behavior. Jingles associate brands into our brains in a different way than words or images. Little changes in sound can make a big difference. 00:23:06 - The Impact of Sound on Podcasts, The sound on the podcast intro and outro helps people relate to the host. The right voice, vocal inflection, and even smiling while talking can change the podcast experience. Sound is everything leading up to the sale conversation. 00:25:00 - Sound Impact on Pricing, The way a number is sounded out can impact the perception of price size. Some vowels give off the perception of being bigger than others, and this translates to a bigger price in the brain. This impact can happen even when prices are not heard or spoken. 00:29:48 - Thank You and Resources, Melina thanks listeners for 300 episodes and celebrates the mostly audio show with an episode on The Sense of Hearing. Resources, related past episodes, books, and articles are available in the show notes. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don’t forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.  I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let’s connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Join the BE Thoughtful Revolution – our free behavioral economics community, and keep the conversation going! Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina’s Books.  Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: Evolutionary Ideas, by Sam Tatam What Your Customer Wants and Can’t Tell You, by Melina Palmer Marketing to Mindstates, by Will Leach Alchemy, by Rory Sutherland Magic Words, by Jonah Berger Top Recommended Next Episode: The Top 5 Wording Mistakes Businesses Make (ep 2) Already Heard That One? Try These:  Priming (ep 252) Sight (ep 24) Touch (ep 28) Taste (ep 26) Smell (ep 298) Loss Aversion (ep 9) Herding (ep 264) Change Management: It’s Still Not About The Cookie (ep 226) Your Guide to Create a Brainy Brand (ep 230) Rebrand, Refresh, or Reinforce? (ep 44) What Your Customer Wants and Can’t Tell You (ep 147) Evolutionary Ideas with Sam Tatam (ep 203) Mirror Neurons (ep 31) Other Important Links:  Brainy Bites - Melina’s LinkedIn Newsletter How Do We Hear? Hearing & Balance: Crash Course A&P #17 Beats by Dre goes ‘Above the Noise’ with Olympic athletes in latest campaign Beats by Dre x Colin Kaepernick Hear What You Want Commercial Explained Ed Sheeran – Shape Of You – Loop Pedal Version Atmospherics as a Marketing Tool The Effects of Background Music on Consumer Responses in a High-end Supermarket The Impact of Music on Consumers’ Reactions to Waiting for Services 10 Iconic Horror Theme Songs Are Emotionally Different with a Major Key Change Mrs Doubtfire Recut as a Horror Movie The Shining (happy version) Small Sounds, Big Deals: Phonetic Symbolism Effects in Pricing