
The MLSecOps Podcast
Welcome to The MLSecOps Podcast, presented by Protect AI. Here we explore the world of machine learning security operations, a.k.a., MLSecOps. From preventing attacks to navigating new AI regulations, we'll dive into the latest developments, strategies, and best practices with industry leaders and AI experts. Sit back, relax, and learn something new with us today.Learn more and get involved with the MLSecOps Community at https://bit.ly/MLSecOps.
Latest episodes

Nov 7, 2024 • 38min
AI Governance Essentials: Empowering Procurement Teams to Navigate AI Risk
Dr. Cari Miller, an expert in AI governance and procurement, shares her insights from the AI Procurement Lab and ForHumanity. She discusses essential frameworks for mitigating AI acquisition risks, highlighting the OMB Memo M-24-18's role in guiding government AI procurements. The conversation emphasizes the importance of cross-functional collaboration and AI literacy in organizations. Dr. Miller also addresses the need for trained procurement professionals to navigate AI risks effectively, ensuring responsible and accountable AI deployment.

Oct 29, 2024 • 33min
Crossroads: AI, Cybersecurity, and How to Prepare for What's Next
Nicole Nichols, a Distinguished Engineer at Palo Alto Networks, specializes in AI security and bridging complex systems. In this discussion, she recounts her journey from mechanical engineering to AI. Topics include the critical importance of clear AI vocabularies and the intertwined concepts of fairness and safety in AI. Nicole also explores emerging threats like LLM backdoors and emphasizes the need for collaboration and a growth mindset among tech professionals to tackle evolving cybersecurity challenges in an AI-driven landscape.

Oct 1, 2024 • 41min
AI Beyond the Hype: Lessons from Cloud on Risk and Security
Send us a textOn this episode of the MLSecOps Podcast, we’re bringing together two cybersecurity legends. Our guest is the inimitable Caleb Sima, who joins us to discuss security considerations for building and using AI, drawing on his 25+ years of cybersecurity experience. Caleb's impressive journey includes co-founding two security startups acquired by HP and Lookout, serving as Chief Security Officer at Robinhood, and currently leading cybersecurity venture studio WhiteRabbit & chairing the Cloud Security Alliance AI Safety Initiative.Hosting this episode is Diana Kelley (CISO, Protect AI) an industry powerhouse with a long career dedicated to cybersecurity, and a longtime host on this show. Together, Caleb and Diana share a thoughtful discussion full of unique insights for the MLSecOps Community of learners.Thanks for checking out the MLSecOps Podcast! Get involved with the MLSecOps Community and find more resources at https://community.mlsecops.com. Additional tools and resources to check out:Protect AI Guardian: Zero Trust for ML Models Recon: Automated Red Teaming for GenAI Protect AI’s ML Security-Focused Open Source Tools LLM Guard Open Source Security Toolkit for LLM Interactions Huntr - The World's First AI/Machine Learning Bug Bounty Platform

Sep 19, 2024 • 32min
Generative AI Prompt Hacking and Its Impact on AI Security & Safety
Send us a textWelcome to Season 3 of the MLSecOps Podcast, brought to you by Protect AI!In this episode, MLSecOps Community Manager Charlie McCarthy speaks with Sander Schulhoff, co-founder and CEO of Learn Prompting. Sander discusses his background in AI research, focusing on the rise of prompt engineering and its critical role in generative AI. He also shares insights into prompt security, the creation of LearnPrompting.org, and its mission to democratize prompt engineering knowledge. This episode also explores the intricacies of prompting techniques, "prompt hacking," and the impact of competitions like HackAPrompt on improving AI safety and security.Thanks for checking out the MLSecOps Podcast! Get involved with the MLSecOps Community and find more resources at https://community.mlsecops.com. Additional tools and resources to check out:Protect AI Guardian: Zero Trust for ML Models Recon: Automated Red Teaming for GenAI Protect AI’s ML Security-Focused Open Source Tools LLM Guard Open Source Security Toolkit for LLM Interactions Huntr - The World's First AI/Machine Learning Bug Bounty Platform

Sep 7, 2024 • 41min
The MLSecOps Podcast Season 2 Finale
Send us a textThis compilation contains highlights from episodes throughout Season 2 of the MLSecOps Podcast, and it's a great one for community members who are new to the show. If there is a clip from this highlights reel that is especially interesting to you, you can note the name of the original episode that the clip came from and easily go check out that full length episode for a deeper dive.Extending enormous thanks to everyone who has supported this show, including our audience, Protect AI hosts, and stellar expert guests. Stay tuned for Season 3!Thanks for checking out the MLSecOps Podcast! Get involved with the MLSecOps Community and find more resources at https://community.mlsecops.com. Additional tools and resources to check out:Protect AI Guardian: Zero Trust for ML Models Recon: Automated Red Teaming for GenAI Protect AI’s ML Security-Focused Open Source Tools LLM Guard Open Source Security Toolkit for LLM Interactions Huntr - The World's First AI/Machine Learning Bug Bounty Platform

Jul 26, 2024 • 38min
Exploring Generative AI Risk Assessment and Regulatory Compliance
David Rosenthal, a Partner at VISCHER, shares his expertise in data and technology law with over 25 years of experience. He dives into the intricacies of the EU AI Act, discussing the challenges organizations face in compliance and how it could stifle innovation. The conversation also introduces a generative AI risk assessment tool aimed at helping organizations mitigate potential risks. Finally, they reflect on the future of AI integration into daily life and the need for adaptation amid evolving regulations.

Jul 3, 2024 • 39min
MLSecOps Culture: Considerations for AI Development and Security Teams
Send us a textIn this episode, we had the pleasure of welcoming Co-Founder and CISO of Weights & Biases, Chris Van Pelt, to the MLSecOps Podcast. Chris discusses a range of topics with hosts Badar Ahmed and Diana Kelley, including the history of how W&B was formed, building a culture of security & knowledge sharing across teams in an organization, real-world ML and GenAI security concerns, data lineage and tracking, and upcoming features in the Weights & Biases platform for enhancing security.More about our guest speaker: Chris Van Pelt is a co-founder of Weights & Biases, a developer MLOps platform. In 2009, Chris founded Figure Eight/CrowdFlower. Over the past 12 years, Chris has dedicated his career optimizing ML workflows and teaching ML practitioners, making machine learning more accessible to all. Chris has worked as a studio artist, computer scientist, and web engineer. He studied both art and computer science at Hope College.Thanks for checking out the MLSecOps Podcast! Get involved with the MLSecOps Community and find more resources at https://community.mlsecops.com. Additional tools and resources to check out:Protect AI Guardian: Zero Trust for ML Models Recon: Automated Red Teaming for GenAI Protect AI’s ML Security-Focused Open Source Tools LLM Guard Open Source Security Toolkit for LLM Interactions Huntr - The World's First AI/Machine Learning Bug Bounty Platform

Jun 17, 2024 • 35min
Practical Offensive and Adversarial ML for Red Teams
Send us a textNext on the MLSecOps Podcast, we have the honor of highlighting one of our MLSecOps Community members and Dropbox™ Red Teamers, Adrian Wood. Adrian joined Protect AI threat researchers, Dan McInerney and Marcello Salvati, in the studio to share an array of insights, including what inspired him to create the Offensive ML (aka OffSec ML) Playbook, and diving into categories like adversarial machine learning (ML), offensive/defensive ML, and supply chain attacks.The group also discusses dual uses for "traditional" ML and LLMs in the realm of security, the rise of agentic LLMs, and the potential for crown jewel data leakage via model malware (i.e. highly valuable and sensitive data being leaked out of an organization due to malicious software embedded within machine learning models or AI systems).Thanks for checking out the MLSecOps Podcast! Get involved with the MLSecOps Community and find more resources at https://community.mlsecops.com. Additional tools and resources to check out:Protect AI Guardian: Zero Trust for ML Models Recon: Automated Red Teaming for GenAI Protect AI’s ML Security-Focused Open Source Tools LLM Guard Open Source Security Toolkit for LLM Interactions Huntr - The World's First AI/Machine Learning Bug Bounty Platform

May 20, 2024 • 26min
Expert Talk from RSA Conference: Securing Generative AI
Send us a textIn this episode, host Neal Swaelens (EMEA Director of Business Development, Protect AI) catches up with Ken Huang, CISSP at RSAC 2024 to talk about security for generative AI. Thanks for checking out the MLSecOps Podcast! Get involved with the MLSecOps Community and find more resources at https://community.mlsecops.com. Additional tools and resources to check out:Protect AI Guardian: Zero Trust for ML Models Recon: Automated Red Teaming for GenAI Protect AI’s ML Security-Focused Open Source Tools LLM Guard Open Source Security Toolkit for LLM Interactions Huntr - The World's First AI/Machine Learning Bug Bounty Platform

May 13, 2024 • 38min
Practical Foundations for Securing AI
Send us a textIn this episode of the MLSecOps Podcast, we delve into the critical world of security for AI and machine learning with our guest Ron F. Del Rosario, Chief Security Architect and AI/ML Security Lead at SAP ISBN. The discussion highlights the contextual knowledge gap between ML practitioners and cybersecurity professionals, emphasizing the importance of cross-collaboration and foundational security practices. We explore the contrasts of security for AI to that for traditional software, along with the risk profiles of first-party vs. third-party ML models. Ron sheds light on the significance of understanding your AI system's provenance, having necessary controls, and audit trails for robust security. He also discusses the "Secure AI/ML Development Framework" initiative that he launched internally within his organization, featuring a lean security checklist to streamline processes. We hope you enjoy this thoughtful conversation!Thanks for checking out the MLSecOps Podcast! Get involved with the MLSecOps Community and find more resources at https://community.mlsecops.com. Additional tools and resources to check out:Protect AI Guardian: Zero Trust for ML Models Recon: Automated Red Teaming for GenAI Protect AI’s ML Security-Focused Open Source Tools LLM Guard Open Source Security Toolkit for LLM Interactions Huntr - The World's First AI/Machine Learning Bug Bounty Platform
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