
ChatEDU: AI in Education
Welcome to ChatEDU: AI in Education, your go-to podcast for insightful discussions on the intersection of AI and education! Hosted by Matt Mervis, Director of Skills21 and AI Strategy at EdAdvance, and Dr. Elizabeth Radday, Director of Research & Innovation, this podcast explores the dynamic landscape of education technology.
Latest episodes

May 24, 2024 • 43min
That’s a Wrap - Exploring the Fate of Custom AI Teacher Tools | Ep. 11
In this episode of ChatEDU (That’s a Wrap - Exploring the Fate of Custom AI Teacher Tools), hosts Matt Mervis and Liz Radday think through the implications of the ChatGPT 4o release, and what it may mean for custom AI teacher tools and the broader landscape AI + education landscape.
First, In the News:
Microsoft Work Trends Report
Matt unpacks a new report from Microsoft highlighting the need for AI literacy in schools.
AI and Solopreneurs
Liz examines the rise of "solopreneurs," entrepreneurs using AI to operate alone, and draws connections to Capstone projects.
NSFW Content and AI
Matt and Liz discuss OpenAI's new “Model Spec” including the possibility of NSFW content in AI outputs down the line.
Homework Assistance Apps
Liz highlights the prevalence of AI homework assistance apps in the iOS App Store and the challenges they pose for teachers.
Beneath the Surface Links
GPT 4-o Math Problems
GPT 4-o Rocky Interview
GPT 4-o Real Time Translation
Chat Back: Listener Question
Matt and Liz address a listener's question about whether schools should appoint a primary AI lead.

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May 17, 2024 • 44min
AI for Good: The Literacy Component We Might Be Missing | Ep. 10
Marc Watkins, an expert in literacy and AI, joins to discuss the overlooked risks AI poses to deep reading and analytical skills. The conversation highlights how U.S. attitudes towards AI may restrict our understanding of AI literacy for students. They delve into Google's new generative AI tool aimed at English language learners, and address the ethical implications of labor from developing nations in shaping AI outputs. The episode culminates in a discussion about generative AI's influence on trust in educational settings.

May 10, 2024 • 42min
Yes the Jobs - But First the Class of 2025 | Ep. 9
This episode of ChatEDU (Yes the Jobs - But First the Class of 2025) unpacks the significant impact of AI on the job market, emphasizing how to meet the immediate needs of next year’s seniors. But first in the news, hosts Matt Mervis and Liz Radday explore various facets of AI in education, including persistent biases in AI models, student preferences for AI-generated versus teacher feedback on writing, and the role of generative AI in the art and science of book writing. Additionally, they discuss S.A.R.A.H, a video avatar from the World Health Organization designed to provide reliable health information. The episode wraps up with listener questions about how not to increase student anxiety as they prepare for 2025 and beyond.
In the News:
Segment 1: AI and Bias
Highlight of a study from University College London showing bias in AI models.
Discussion on efforts to mitigate biases in AI.
Segment 2: Student Feedback on AI
Insights from a field study on how students perceive AI-generated feedback compared to teacher feedback.
Discussion on the importance of human elements in educational feedback.
Segment 3: AI in Health
Introduction of S.A.R.A.H, an AI tool from WHO for health guidance.
Discussion on the reliability and limits of AI in providing health information.
Segment 4: AI in Authorship
Liz discusses her personal project on using AI to aid in writing her book.Exploration of different roles AI can play in the creative process of writing.

May 3, 2024 • 43min
Minor Update Major Menace - Advertising in AI Requires Educators' Attention | Ep. 8
In this episode of ChatEDU (Micro Update Major Menace: Advertising in AI Requires K-12 Attention), Matt Mervis and Liz Radday kick off by covering the latest news including research on AI content detectors with some help from Abbott Elementary, as well as an AI-powered exhibit featuring WWII veterans. Liz reviews a major AI assessment announcement from PISA, while Matt explores new developments in holographic technology and how AI could change the way we interact with the digital world. Next, Matt and Liz go “Beneath the Surface” as they explore the potential negative impact of AI companies testing advertising in their chatbots. They analyze the underreported but enormously important story of how AI business models could affect students, families, communities and schools. The episode wraps by answering a listener question about students using generative AI for emotional support.
In the News
AI Content Detectors: We discuss the effectiveness of AI content detectors with a particular focus on their limitations, as highlighted in a recent "Abbott Elementary" episode. Despite their popularity, these tools often produce false positives, particularly impacting ELL students. Learn more about these detectors' fallibility as reported by The Washington Post and The Guardian.
Links:
Cheating Detection
AI Discrimination
Educators Juggling Generative AI
Humanizing Machine Generated Content
World War II Veterans Exhibit: Liz reviews an engaging AI-powered exhibit at the National WWII Museum in New Orleans, where AI helps visitors interact with life-sized representations of veterans. This use of AI in educational settings offers a new method to engage with history.
Links
WW2 Museum - AI Veterans Survivors
Holographics and New Interfaces: Discover the latest in holographic interfaces and how they could transform interactions with digital devices. From the potential use of AI in mundane tasks to its integration into everyday gadgets, we explore what's on the horizon for AI-enhanced interfaces.
Links
Scientists Create Color 3D Holographic
Human AI Pin: Review
Rabbit R1: Review
I tried Nothing Ear with ChatGPT and I’m impressed — but also a little terrified
Meta's Ray-Ban smart glasses just got another useful feature for free
PISA's New AI Assessment Announcement: A significant shift in educational assessment practices with PISA incorporating AI to evaluate critical thinking and problem-solving skills. This segment explores how AI-driven assessments could redefine educational benchmarks globally.
Links:
AI May Be Coming for Standardized Testing
Beneath the Surface
AI's Business Models: A deep dive into the economic strategies of AI companies as they transition from heavy investment phases to profit-making models. We discuss the implications of subscription versus advertising models in AI, highlighting concerns about user engagement and privacy.
Links:
Perplexity will try a form of ads on its AI search platform
Google considers charging for AI-powered search in big change to business model
Meta’s new AI assistant is rolling out
ChatBack
Mental Health and AI: We tackle a listener's question about the use of AI for mental health support among teens. The pros and cons of AI as a tool for emotional support are discussed, emphasizing the importance of human connection and the potential risks of over-reliance on AI for psychological support.
Mental health chatbots powered by artificial intelligence developed as a therapy support tool
ChatGPT-4 outperforms human psychologists in test of social intelligence, study finds

Apr 19, 2024 • 41min
AI Guilt Trip: Why Educators Sometimes Feel Guilty and What to Do About It! | Ep. 7
Exploring AI guilt in education, using AI for music creation, AI applications in schools, creating custom AI bots in universities, understanding and managing guilt when using AI, and insights on AI's influence on education and personal experiences.

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Apr 5, 2024 • 39min
Riding the AI Wave: Adapting to Change with Curiosity & Confidence | Ep. 6
In this episode of ChatEDU, titled "Riding the AI Wave: Adapting to Change with Curiosity & Confidence," Matt and Liz discuss the introduction of Devin, a coding agent from Cognition AI, share insights from Pulitzer Prize winners, and highlight AI stories from the South By Southwest festival. The episode also covers educators' reservations about generative AI and the importance of adaptive leadership in navigating educational change. We'll conclude by addressing a listener question with HeyPI in ChatBack!

Mar 22, 2024 • 37min
You’ve Gotta See This: The Potential of AI Vision in Education | Ep. 5
In this episode of ChatEDU, titled "You’ve Gotta See This: The Potential of AI Vision in Education," Matt and Liz delve into the significant update from Inflection AI, the creators of HeyPi. We'll discuss AI-driven dating assistants and their cognitive skill enhancement. We'll also present how Google's DeepMind and Genie, are offering real-time immersive environments for education.
The episode concludes with a listener question and insights from HeyPi. Tune in to episode 5 of ChatEDU!

Mar 8, 2024 • 36min
Total Recall - Why AI Memory is Key | Ep. 4
In this episode of ChatEDU, titled "Total Recall - Why AI Memory is Key," Matt and Liz explore the significance of AI memory advancements for education. We'll discuss how improved memory capabilities will be crucial for AI to become an effective personalized tutor. Additionally, we'll cover the latest news and developments related to AI in education. We'll wrap the episode with a listener question and insights from HeyPI as we ChatBack.

Feb 23, 2024 • 33min
Every Learner, Every Possibility | Ep. 3
In this episode of ChatEDU, titled "Every Learner, Every Possibility," we'll delve into the ways AI can cater to the unique needs, interests, and learning journeys of every learner. Matt will discuss the impact of watermarking on education in the news segment, while Liz explores how AI could perceive the world from a child's perspective. Additionally, Matt will provide updates on the intriguing yet slightly unsettling realm of AI agents. We'll go beneath the surface, examining how generative AI can support a diverse range of learners and possibilities. We'll wrap the episode with a listener question and insights from HeyPI as we ChatBack.
Ancient Roman Scroll Decoded
Watermarking- meta and dall-e to label AI-generated images

Feb 9, 2024 • 37min
Hidden Gems: Innovative AI Uses in Schools | Ep. 2
In this episode of ChatEDU, we delve into Hidden Gems: Innovative AI Uses in Schools, shedding light on various student-facing AI pilots. We take a deep dive into Google's Bard catching up with ChatGPT. We'll also highlight a study featuring CS50 Duck, an intriguing AI chatbot from Harvard's popular CS50 open online course. We'll also unpack innovative AI use cases among students and teachers. To close out the episode, we'll address a listener question and engage with HeyPI in ChatBack. Join us for a captivating exploration of AI in education in this episode of ChatEDU!
Here are links to the many different tools and articles we mentioned in today’s podcast episode.
Hugging Face Custom GPTs - Hugging Face Assistant
The World’s Most Used AI Tools
Common Sense Media
Meet Your New TF: A Duck
Teach CS50 with AI
Half of High School Students Already Use AI Tools (study from ACT)
Skills21 Personal Interest Projects
Liz’s Shawl: Texture Time by Stephen West