

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
Persephonica and Global Optimism
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast is for anyone who is not ready to give up on making the world a better place. For unrivalled conversations with decision makers, visionary thinkers and a community of like-minded climate optimists, join former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, political strategist Tom Rivett-Carnac and sustainable business consultant Paul Dickinson. Each week they make sense of all the top climate news stories, go behind the scenes at crucial talks and ensure you stay informed and inspired ahead of what is set to be the consequential year for climate action.As we approach the middle of the decisive decade for world emissions, and the 10 year anniversary of the Paris climate agreement, subscribe to Outrage + Optimism: The Climate PodcastAnd join us for our special Inside COP series with co-host Fiona McRaith where we bring you behind the scenes of COP30 in Belém! And to see video content from the show, follow us on LinkedIn, and Instagram. Got a question? Send us a voice message.This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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May 7, 2021 • 25min
BONUS: Outrage + Optimism is 100 Episodes Strong! with Christiana, Tom and Paul
Outrage + Optimism is celebrating 100 episodes! In this episode, we reminisce about our humble beginnings as a podcast and celebrate some memories made along the way. Not only are we celebrating 100 episodes but we also are turning 2 as a podcast! Yes! So pour yourself a drink, light a candle, and join us for a moment together as we glance back and focus forward. And! Dreams do come true because Paul Dickinson is our musical guest this week. You won’t want to miss. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 6, 2021 • 1h 7min
100. Financing The Race to Zero!
Welcome to the third episode of our Race To Zero series! In this episode, we show you the money. Finance is an absolutely crucial factor in accelerating our world towards a Net-Zero future, and with less than 9 years left to halve our global emissions and current investments and markets spiraling towards catastrophic risk, it’s going to take every financial lever we have to shift the global economy to a sustainable, equitable, and just system. On topics of investment, divestment, engagement, and tropical carbon pricing, you’ll hear from: Mark Carney, UN Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance and Prime Minister Johnson’s Finance Adviser for COP26 Amal-Lee Amin, Director of Climate Change at CDC and Senior Advisor to the UK COP26 Unit Thomas Di Napoli, New York State Comptroller Carlos Manuel Rodriguez, CEO and Chairperson of the Global Environment Facility Kristalina Georgieva, Managing Director, IMF And of course our good friend, Nigel Topping, High Level Climate Action Champion for COP26 The race is on! Buckle up and hit play. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Thank you to our guests this week! Mark Carney UN Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance and Prime Minister Johnson’s Finance Adviser for COP26 Twitter | LinkedIn — Amal-Lee Amin Director of Climate Change at CDC and Senior Advisor to the UK COP26 Unit Twitter | LinkedIn CDC Twitter | LinkedIn — Thomas Di Napoli New York State Comptroller Twitter | Facebook | Instagram — Kristalina Georgieva Managing Director, IMF Twitter | Facebook | Linkedin | Instagram The IMF Twitter | Facebook | Linkedin | Instagram — Carlos Manuel Rodriguez CEO and Chairperson of the Global Environment Facility Twitter The GEF Twitter — Nigel Topping High Level Climate Action Champion for COP26 Twitter l LinkedIn | Instagram Race to Zero Twitter | LinkedIn COP26 - UN Climate Change Conference Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter — Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn — Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 29, 2021 • 1h 5min
99. Hope Is a Verb with Fred Krupp
With the Biden U.S. Climate Summit barely in the rearview mirror, our hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson unpack what this moment means for global leadership, ambition, and the gaps in the road ahead for the climate movement. The new U.S. NDC of 50% GHG reductions by 2030 sets the stage for the rest of the decade, so what is next? And our interview this week is with Fred Krupp, long-serving President of the Environmental Defence Fund (EDF). We discuss one of the most pressing and, until now, overlooked issues of methane leakage and emissions, and their wildly powerful short-term warming potential. EDF is launching a satellite soon that will track methane emissions around the world to keep us all accountable. Amazing. We also celebrate the announcement at the Biden summit of the launch of the LEAF Coalition, a project that the EDF is partnering in with both private sector and government participation, and the impact this private and public partnership will have on tackling the stubborn challenge of tropical deforestation on a meaningful scale. And be sure to hang around for a live performance from ViVii of their song ‘One Day’! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Thank you to our guest this week, Fred Krupp! Fred Krupp President of Environmental Defense Fund Twitter | LinkedIn Environmental Defense Fund Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn __ Our musical guest this week is ViVii! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Soundcloud Their album “Mondays” is dropping May 21st! Click Here to Pre-save the album Tap in to watch the live performance of ‘One Day’ — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 22, 2021 • 1h 3min
98. 100% Outrage and 100% Optimism with John Kerry
Happy 51st Earth Day, everyone! Today marks the first U.S. Earth Day Summit convened by President Joe Biden with the aim to strengthen climate ambition among invited world leaders ahead of the COP26 meeting in Glasgow in November. And while the global community anticipates the details of the U.S’s own NDC announcement expected shortly before or at the summit itself, we speak to John Kerry in his role as Special Presidential Envoy for Climate, about his recent deployment overseas to meet delegates and colleagues ahead of the summit to discuss climate ambition and the urgent need for even more ambitious targets to be pledged in this most decisive decade. And just before the interview, we bring the latest in climate news this week. We discuss the latest IEA report citing carbon dioxide emissions are forecast to jump this year by the second biggest annual rise in history, the UK’s Prime minister, Boris Johnson, pledging to reduce emissions 78 percent by 2035 compared to 1990 levels, and the U.S. Treasury appointing a climate counsellor, John Morton, to coordinate the efforts of a new climate hub focused on leveraging finance to confront the threat of climate change. Plus, we discuss the ratification of the Kigali Amendment to the Montreal Protocol. It’s a busy Earth Day! Join in with us and listen! And be sure to hang around after the interview for a musical treat from rock n’ soul legend-in-the-making, Aaron Frazer! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Thank you to our guest this week, John Kerry! John Kerry U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Climate Twitter __ Our musical guest this week is Aaron Frazer! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube | Spotify Check out Aaron Frazer + Sierra Club - SolNation SolNation has a Summit happening April 22-24 - Register Here — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 15, 2021 • 1h 7min
97. Jojo Mehta on Ecocide and Ending Impunity
With France banning short haul flights, John Kerry on his way to China and South Korea to talk climate just days ahead of The US Climate Summit, and The American Legislative Exchange Council (not so) secretly planning to fight Biden on climate, this episode is jam packed with things to discuss! And speaking of things to discuss, have you heard of the word “Ecocide”? It’s a term describing something we all understand and know is wrong - the mass damage and destruction of ecosystems. But, yet it is still somehow legally permitted around the world. This week, we explore the tireless work of Jojo Mehta and the Stop Ecocide Foundation who are pursuing their goal to have Ecocide added to the International Criminal Court (ICC) as a fifth crime alongside Genocide, War Crimes, Crimes Against Humanity and Crimes of Aggression. How would this fifth crime change corporate behavior? We can only assume it would act as a deterrent to environmental destruction, but could it also act as an accelerator of the goals of the Paris Agreement? Stick around after the interview for a mesmerizing tune from Eliza Shaddad! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Thank you to our guest this week, Jojo Mehta! Jojo Mehta Co-Founder & Executive Director, Stop Ecocide International Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn Stop Ecocide International Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | Instagram | YouTube __ Our musical guest this week is Eliza Shaddad! Check out Eliza on Patreon! Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | Spotify | Apple Music | YouTube — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 8, 2021 • 1h 1min
96. Climate Action Is the Adventure of Our Lives with Bertrand Piccard and Dee Caffari
This week, the climate solutions are here, and they’re neatly labeled. You may have heard of Bertrand Piccard, the explorer, balloonist, and ‘inspioneer’ who was the first to circumnavigate the globe in a solar powered aircraft in 2016. Well, since then, he’s been on a mission to support climate friendly technologies. With his Solar Impulse Foundation, he is close to having found, assessed and labeled 1000 cleantech solutions that have a positive impact on both the environment and the economy. Now he’s making sure that they get used. In our interview with him this week, we discuss his commitment to create and nurture innovative new ways of thinking that reconcile ecology and economy, providing a compelling argument for business and governments to act today to achieve planetary health and profit with his ‘Tao of Economics’. And with Tom taking a well earned break away from hosting, we are delighted to introduce a special co-host for this episode, Dee Caffari, MBE! Dee is the first woman to have sailed single-handed and non-stop around the world in both directions and the only woman to have sailed non-stop around the world a total of three times! Yes, you read that right. Having witnessed personally the problem of single use plastics on ocean health, she uses her platform to raise awareness on Ocean health, sustainability, and a new danger - microplastics. Her fascinating first-hand experience and deep thinking on climate change makes determined ambition a reality. Our adventure awaits! Hang tight after the interview for a live musical performance from Easy Wanderlings! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Thank you to our guest this week! Bertrand Piccard Chairman of the Solar Impulse Foundation | Explorer | Psychiatrist | Inspirational Speaker Twitter | Facebook | Linkedin Solar Impulse Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | Linkedin Check out the climate solutions here: Solar Impulse Solutions — And thank you to our guest co-host this week: Dee Caffari, MBE Chair of the World Sailing Trust | World Record Holder | Author and Ocean Advocate Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn | Website __ Our musical guest this week is Easy Wanderlings! Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | Website WATCH: Sofar Mumbai Performance — As Christiana mentioned in the episode, check out Seaspiracy on Netflix. — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 1, 2021 • 47min
BONUS: The Stubborn Optimist's Playlist Vol. 2
Welcome to Volume 2 of The Stubborn Optimist’s Playlist! Every week on the podcast we feature a musical artist who is thoughtful about the role of art and artists in the climate crisis. This week we bring you a collection of those artists in playlist form as an extended listening experience. So without further ado, Vol. 2. Enjoy the music! ___ The Stubborn Optimist’s Playlist Vol. 2: (0:59) James Hersey - My People Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (3:16) Mystery Jets - Wrong Side of The Tracks Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (7:07) Mesadorm - Easy Facebook (11:15) Presidio - Clockout Facebook | Instagram (13:33) I See Rivers - We Don’t Get More Time Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (16:10) MF Tomlinson - Sum of Nothing Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (19:46) Beans on Toast - On and On Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (24:17) Gecko - End of The World Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (28:37) Desiree Dawson - Mountain Tops Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (31:21) Rhys Lewis - Better Than Today Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (35:06) Alex Serra - Everything is Changing Facebook | Instagram (39:47) Saunder Jurriaans - Easy Now Facebook | Instagram (42:55) Emmanuel Jal - We Want Peace Twitter | Facebook | Instagram __ Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter — Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn — Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 1, 2021 • 1h 18min
95. Sounds of Action! The Stubborn Optimist's Playlist Vol. 1
Welcome to the very first Volume of The Stubborn Optimist’s Playlist! Every week on the podcast we feature an artist who is thoughtful about the role of art and artists in the climate crisis. This week, we celebrate all the artists we have had on the show so far with 2 separate volumes for your listening enjoyment! So without further ado, Vol. 1. Enjoy the music! ___ The Stubborn Optimist’s Playlist Vol. 1: (4:12) Ellie Goulding - Speaking (5:18) She Drew The Gun - Trouble Every Day Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (8:37) Blackout Problems - Dark Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (12:14) Jelani Blackman - Pretty World Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (15:42) Toukan Toukan - Konowoulen Facebook | Instagram (19:49) Billy Bragg - King Tide and The Sunny Day Flood Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (22:49) Robert 3D Del Naja - Speaking (25:01) Massive Attack ft. Christiana Figueres - Eutopia Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (28:32) Gaeya - Contact Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (32:32) Cosmo Sheldrake - Speaking (34:15) Cosmo Sheldrake - Cuckoo Song Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (36:56) Nick Mulvey - Begin Again Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (41:54) Baaba Mal - Leke Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (44:44) AURORA - Speaking (46:00) AURORA - The Seed Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (50:43) Millie Turner - Underwater Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (54:34) Ayoni - The Patriots Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (58:47) Too Many T’s - Speaking (01:01:18) Too Many T’s Not Enough Bees Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (01:04:50) OK GO - All Together Now Twitter | Facebook | Instagram (01:09:18) Aaron Taylor - Get Through This Facebook (01:12:06) AJR - Speaking (01:14:02) AJR - Burn The House Down Twitter | Facebook | Instagram — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter — Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn — Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 25, 2021 • 59min
94. The Risk of Living Under a White Sky with Elizabeth Kolbert
With CO2 in the atmosphere now reaching levels 50% higher than when humanity began large-scale burning of fossil fuels during the industrial revolution, time is running out and some ecosystems are on the brink of collapse. In light of this, some scientists and engineers are asking the question, can we act in time to save them? What do we do if we cannot reduce emissions in time? What tools will we have to save humanity? This week we talk to Elizabeth Kolbert, Pulitzer-Prize winning author, activist, The New Yorker journalist, about her latest book Under a White Sky, a fascinating work that is asking the big questions: having meddled so much in our natural ecosystems, are we now able to save them and ourselves from the devastating effects of climate change? What form will these interventions take? Are the proposals such a genetically modified coral or solar geoengineering even possible? Will our sky be white? Join us for a delightfully sobering conversation. And stick around later in the show for a musical performance from Saunder Jurriaans! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! — Thank you to our guest this week, Elizabeth Kolbert! Elizabeth Kolbert Twitter | Facebook In 2015, Elizabeth wrote a phenomenal article on Christiana in The New Yorker. Highly recommended reading! Grab a copy of Elizabeth’s new book, Under a White Sky: The Nature of the Future! Elizabeth is a Pulitzer-Prize winning author, and her books are available for purchase here: Books by Elizabeth Kolbert — Our musical guest this week is Saunder Jurriaans! YouTube | Facebook | Instagram | Spotify Check out Saunder Jurriaans’ debut album ‘Beasts’ — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter — Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn — Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 22, 2021 • 19min
BONUS: What The Hale Does This Mean? with Thomas Hale: Net Zero Goals
A bonus episode for you this week! With science demanding that in order to stay below 1.5C we must reach “net zero” greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 at the absolute latest, how do we get there? We know we can’t keep emitting as we currently are and just offset to balance it out. We need radical cuts and that means a complete reshaping of the global economy and most business models. Arguably, anyone could shape their net zero goals differently, unless we can compare these (literally) hundreds of commitments that have been made - and hundreds, even thousands more that will continue to come. So here’s a question - what does :net zero” actually mean? Is it the same as carbon neutrality, or any of the other terms we hear and read about? This week, Tom Rivett-Carnac dials up for a quick chat with Dr. Thomas Hale, Associate Professor in Global Public Policy at Oxford University. He’s part of a team that has just released a report - Taking Stock: A global assessment of net zero targets. The report is the first quantitative analysis of the robustness of the different types of net zero targets and provides a baseline against which we can compare country, city, or company level net zero commitments. __ Heard something about climate change you don’t understand, or a term that isn't clear to you? Tweet us @GlobalOptimism starting your question with 'What the Hale', tell us what you want to know and we'll get the answer directly from Dr. Thomas Hale for you! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn __ Dr. Thomas Hale Associate Professor of Global Public Policy, Blavatnik School of Government, University of Oxford Twitter Blavatnik School of Government, University of Oxford Twitter __ Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter — Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn — Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


