Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

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Dec 8, 2022 • 1h 8min

182. COP15: Nothing Without Nature!

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future. In this jam-packed episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson catch up on news from the Earthshot Prize awards ceremony in Boston, the United Nations Biodiversity Conference (COP 15) in Montréal, insights from Conservation International’s Dr. M. Sanjayan, and music from Boyish. Christiana opens by recounting her time at the award ceremony for the Earthshot Prize一the world’s most prestigious environmental award. Highlights include the “green carpet” with such A-listers as Prince William, Billie Eilish, Annie Lennox, and David Beckham, among others, £5 million in prizes, and the extraordinary winners themselves. Christiana was actually brought to tears.  The team also previews the UN Biodiversity Conference COP15, which started Dec. 7. Conference dynamics are bound to be interesting since it’s being chaired by the Chinese delegation (a holdover from the cancellation of the in-person conference in 2020) but hosted by the Canadians in Montréal. Listen for all the details on “30 by 30,” the significance of biodiversity for global GDP, and more. Later, Conservation International CEO Dr. M Sanjayan shares his thoughts on the connection between climate and nature, why the nature agenda is一counterintuitively一running behind the climate agenda, and the forthcoming nature economy. We close the episode with music from the indie duo, Boyish. They’ve amassed more than 15 million streams across their catalog, received praise from publications including Billboard, Paper, Office Magazine, and Pigeons and Planes, and were the recipient of the 2021 LGBTQ+ Emerging Artist Award. Enjoy their beautifully evocative track, “mom i think i'm gay”    Listeners, this is your last chance to complete our listener survey. Your feedback is important to us, and we’re deeply grateful for your ongoing support. Thank you!   Bye for now!   NOTES AND RESOURCES    To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here.   Catch up with The Earthshot Prize 2022 Learn more about the UN Biodiversity Conference: COP15 in Montréal   Check out our sister-podcast, ‘The Way Out Is In’   Sanjayan, Ph.D. Twitter | LinkedIn | YouTube   Conservation International Twitter | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective   MUSIC   Boyish Spotify | Instagram | YouTube | Facebook   Clay’s Pick of The Week:   Boyish Music Videos - Smithereens | Legs | Congratulations | Superstar BEL - Paul BigDawg (with Boyish)   Please follow us! Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Dec 1, 2022 • 1h 17min

181. A U.S. Special: Making The Irresistible Irreversible!

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future. In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac go deep into U.S. domestic energy policy with guests U.S. Secretary of Energy Jennifer M. Granholm and White House Deputy National Climate Advisor Ali Zaidi. First up, the critical topic of energy justice: Granholm updates the team on the Justice40 Initiative, in which an unprecedented 40 percent of federal energy investments are earmarked for disadvantaged and historically underserved communities that are overburdened by pollution. The plans, which seek to reckon with deep-seated inequities, are ambitious, exciting, and groundbreaking. Speaking of action, Tom and Christiana’s next guest is optimist and White House Climate Advisor Ali Zaidi. He contends the U.S. is on a positive linear trajectory and accelerating exponentiallyーnot just in clean energy or emissions reduction but in terms of the political economy backing these actions. Get the scoop on how federal agencies and departments are pushing forward together.  We finish the episode with the beautiful track “Until the Day” by Los Angeles-based singer-songwriter BEL. Additional details are included in the show notes below.    You won’t want to miss a second of this electrifying episode!   Listeners, please take a minute to complete our listener survey. Your feedback is important to us, and we’re deeply grateful for your ongoing support. Thank you!   NOTES AND RESOURCES    To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here.   Please complete our listener survey here   Jennifer M. Granholm, Secretary U.S. Department of Energy. Twitter | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook   Find out more about the Justice40 Initiative Ali Zaidi, White House Deputy National Climate Advisor  Twitter | | LinkedIn Learn about the National Climate Task Force   Here’s more on the Inflation Reduction Act 2022 and the 2022 Budget Resolution And Reconciliation: How We Will Build Back Better legislation   It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective   MUSIC   BEL Spotify | Twitter | Instagram | SoundCloud | YouTube   Please follow us! Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Nov 29, 2022 • 45min

180. TED Countdown Dilemma Series: Is There a Role for Carbon Credits in the Transition to a Fair, Net-Zero Future?

Today, a special TED Countdown conversation for you! In June 2022, TED’s climate initiative, Countdown, launched its Dilemma Series: events designed to look at some of the “knots” in the climate change space, where diverging positions have stalled progress and solidified into an inability to collaborate across differences.  What we offer today is one of the conversations recorded as part of that event between Outrage + Optimism host Tom Rivett-Carnac, and academic, writer, and author Professor James Dyke.  The event focused on the question: Is there a role for carbon credits in the transition to a fair, net-zero future?  We hope that Tom and James' ‘agreeable disagreement’ on this often divisive issue will be taken as an invitation to listen deeply, keep an open mind and get a little wiser on a complex topic. Please follow the links below to view the fantastic film produced by the TED Countdown team, and gain a greater insight and understanding on the topic of carbon credits but also the process of holding space for such conversations to take place.  Carbon credits is a contentious subject that prompted some discomfort, disagreement and, ultimately, a renewed sense of possibility. Enjoy We want to hear from you! Fill our our LISTENER SURVEY - Thank you! To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here. It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective. TED Countdown Dilemma Series TED Countdown Dilemma Series Intro Film | Blog | TED Countdown Website | Instagram | YouTube | Twitter Professor James Dyke Website | Twitter Follow us on Social Media Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Nov 24, 2022 • 1h 18min

179. The Best of Times, The Worst of Times

“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.” Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future. In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson give their concluding thoughts on COP27, followed by Tom’s interview with Rory Stewart OBE FRSGS FRSL一former Conservative cabinet minister, diplomat, soldier, author, academic, charitable entrepreneur, and podcaster一a true polymath if there ever was one. We close the episode with music from British singer-songwriter L.A. Salami and his captivating single, “Desperate Times, Mediocre Measures.”   Enjoy the show!   NOTES AND RESOURCES    We want to hear from you! Fill our our LISTENER SURVEY - Thank you! To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here. Explore more about COP27. It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective.   Rory Stewart  Twitter | The Rest is Politics | Wikipedia   GiveDirectly Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook | YouTube MUSIC   L.A. Salami  Instagram | Facebook | Spotify | Apple Music Watch the amazing video for “Desperate Times, Mediocre Measures.”   All his incredible music videos are here - WATCH Clay’s Pick of The Week - ‘Things Ain’t Changed’   Follow us on Social Media Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Nov 17, 2022 • 1h 1min

178. COP27: Why the Money Flow is Slow

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future. In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson share their reflections on COP27. We also have music from South Africa’s Daily Maverick, featuring the brilliant vocalist, Anneli Kamfer. Tom is back from Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt, where he spent several days at COP27, the UN’s annual climate conference. The trio discusses whether the international commitment to contain global warming to 1.5°C一now that the target seems to be moving out of reach一is as robust as it should be. Is conference messaging, such as “[We are] resolved to pursue efforts,” as strong as it should be? Next, there’s good and bad news on “Loss and Damage.” This refers to the responsibility of industrialized nations for the climate crisis and the moral case for compensating poorer countries suffering disproportionately from its consequences. Hear the breakdown and where the group stands on the progress of this critical issue. Other COP27 discussions cover balancing collective global action with internal political realities, strides in reversing deforestation, and Tom’s birthday! You won’t want to miss this engaging conversation!   Before we go to the music, hear our incredible ‘pass the mic’ segment where Zoe, our roving reporter, spent an afternoon capturing diverse voices from COP 27 delegates in the halls and corridors of the conference. Finally, we finish with our musical selection: “20Twenties: Eve of Destruction,” by the Daily Maverick, featuring the celebrated vocalist Anneli Kamfer.   Enjoy the show!   NOTES AND RESOURCES  To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here. Explore more about COP27. It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective.   MUSIC Listen to the full track “20Twenties: Eve of Destruction” from the Daily Maverick featuring acclaimed vocalist, Anneli Kamfer. Anneli Kamfer Facebook | Instagram Learn more about the Daily Maverick and the Our Burning Planet initiative.  Here’s a well-known version of Eve of Destruction, written by 19-year-old PF Sloan in 1965 and recorded soon after by Barry McGuire.   Follow us on Social Media: Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Nov 16, 2022 • 43min

177. Future of Food: Live from COP27

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future. In this special episode we bring you the conclusion of our celebrated Future of Food  series, recorded live from COP 27.  Outrage + Optimism host Tom Rivett-Carnac pulls together an incredible line up of leaders to explore how food might act as the connecting force that engages communities and individuals and brings us all together in a united global movement. First, Tom takes the opportunity to catch up Per Heggenes, the CEO of The IKEA Foundation, to hear why food is of huge importance to his organisation's work and why Per believes food needs to stay top of the global agenda. Next, Tom convenes a fascinating and diverse group of guests in a unique and quirky setting: a blue shipping container repurposed in collaboration with Museum for the United Nations UN Live team and The IKEA Foundation using Global We portals, to bring the voices of people on the frontline of climate change, directly into the heart of climate conversations at COP27 via full length screens, set up in diverse global locations. Listen to the fascinating contributions from Tom's IRL guests  Paul Polman, Business Leader, Former CEO of Unilever and co-author of Net Positive; Liesbet Steer, Executive Director of the Education Commission; and Sophia Kianni climate activist, Executive Director of Climate Cardinals  and the youngest member on the United Nations Secretary-General's Youth Advisory Group on Climate Change; and our  Global We portal leaders from Kigali  Sarah Kenkuyu, Program Manager at GiveDirectly Rwanda; Kristian Gasaro, activist, Greenpreneur and photographer; and Tanignigui Siriki Soro, a writer and community leader from the Ivory Coast. The resulting conversation is as diverse and as fascinating as our guests themselves.    Enjoy the show!   NOTES AND RESOURCES  To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here.   The IKEA Foundation Website | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube Museum for the United Nations Website | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn GUESTS:  Per Heggenes Twitter |  Paul Polman LinkedIn | Website | Twitter |  Liesbet Steer  Twitter | LinkedIn |  The Education Commission Website | Twitter | Instagram Sophia Kianni LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Sarah Kenkuyu LinkedIn GiveDirectly LinkedIn | Twitter |  Facebook | Instagram Kristian Gasaro LinkedIn | Twitter Tanignigui Siriki Soro LinkedIn Want to participate in the COP27 Civic Imagination Lab? REGISTER HERE Also, explore more about COP27 It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective Go listen to Abigael Kima’s coverage of COP27 on the Hali Hewa Podcast Click through to listen to more of our episodes on The Future of Food Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Nov 10, 2022 • 1h 14min

176. COP27: Loss and Damage in the Spotlight

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future. First up we have some exclusive news... *drumroll*... We are excited to announce that Outrage + Optimism is now part of the TED Audio Collective! This news represents an exciting continuation of the collaboration between our organizations, which began with our strategic partnership with TED Countdown. The TED Audio Collective is a curated collection of podcasts sharing ideas on a range of subjects, including psychology, business, and design. Be sure to check out some of the other podcasts in the collective! Back to this special COP 27 episode... co-hosts Christiana Figueres and Paul Dickinson talk long-distance with co-host Tom Rivett-Carnac, who’s on the ground at the COP27 UN climate conference in Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt. Also, Christiana interviews Simon Stiell, the latest Executive Secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), and the podcast announces a new partnership with TED Audio Collective. First, Tom calls in from COP27, where the top item on the agenda is “Loss and Damage,” which refers to the historical responsibility of industrialized nations for the climate crisis and the moral case for compensating poorer and developing countries suffering the brunt of its many devastating effects. What is fair, really? Next, Christiana discusses getting things done, accountability, and the power of meditation with UNFCCC Secretary Simon Stiell. They expand on COP27 and the role of oil and gas companies in the conference. You won’t want to miss this engaging conversation. The team closes with their reflections on the midterm elections in the United States (votes are still being counted) and what a divided Congress means for President Biden’s climate agenda. And finally, producer Clay brings us the goods on O+O’s new partnership with the TED Audio Collective and today’s tune from British guitar-goddess and artist, Anna Calvi: “Don’t Beat the Girl Out of My Boy.” Enjoy the show!   NOTES AND RESOURCES  To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here. Want to participate in the COP27 Civic Imagination Lab? REGISTER HERE Also, explore more about COP27 It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective Want to join our Book Club? Read Jon Alexander’s ‘CITIZENS’ and email your question from the book to contact@globaloptimism.com to be invited to an invite-only session with Jon and us! Go listen to Abigael Kima’s coverage of COP27 on the Hali Hewa Podcast   GUEST Simon Stiell LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram MUSIC Anna Calvi Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube Be sure to listen to ‘Indies or Paradise’ -Clay Listen to the full album ‘HUNTER’ Peaky Blinders fans - Listen to ‘Tommy EP’   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Nov 3, 2022 • 52min

175. COP27: A Little Less Conversation, A Lot More (Climate) Action

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson catch up on the whirlwind political news from the last few weeks. They cover the defeat of Brazil’s far-right President Jair Bolsonaro by former president (and prisoner) Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva aka “Lula,” the upcoming COP27, and the U.S. midterm elections. First up, Brazil. The news of Lula’s presidential win is a victory for the planet. Deforestation skyrocketed under Bolsonaro but declined under Lula’s first stint as president. However, it won’t be easy to reverse Bolsanaro’s trends. Lula doesn’t have a Congressional majority, and Bolsonaro’s party just picked up a few more legislative seats. What will this mean for Brazil’s regeneration initiatives? Next, the team discusses COP27, the upcoming UN climate conference. This year’s theme will be implementation rather than high-stakes, multi-governmental negotiation. But that has our trio wondering about what that means for the private sector? With $20 trillion in income, they’re essential to hitting net zero targets. What role will they play? On to U.S. and U.K. politics: Republicans一with their climate denial stance一seem poised to win both legislative houses in the upcoming American midterm elections. And across the pond, the U.K. continues to flounder in its ongoing leadership crisis. How does this affect the U.S. and U.K. climate agendas, wealthy western oil companies, or climate finance commitments to developing countries? You won’t want to miss the team’s insights! Finally, enjoy the amazing British-Asian fusion sound of Nikhil Beats with an exclusive performance of his song 'Wisdom ft. Eclipse'.   NOTES AND RESOURCES    To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here. Learn more about COP27 Participate in the COP27 Civic Imagination Lab – REGISTER HERE   Nikhil Beats Soundcloud | Spotify | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube   Get Tickets to Nikhil’s Headlining Show in London on Nov 16!   -   Watch Sister True Dedication’s Ted Talk Listen to Sister True Dedication on 10 Percent Happier with Dan Harris Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Oct 28, 2022 • 27min

Bonus. Hali Hewa: Gender and the Climate Crisis with Sofanit Mesfin

Welcome to the fifth episode of the Hali Hewa Podcast. ‘Hali Hewa’ is a Swahili term for ‘climate ' and this podcast series is hosted and produced by Kenyan climate activist, Abigael Kima. In the lead up to the COP27 international climate negotiations, which are now just a month away, Abigael interviews African climate change experts and activists on the issues that matter most to them. Guests sign off each episode by sharing what they feel the COP27 conference must deliver on. Our guest today is Sofanit Mesfin. Sofanit is a gender specialist working as the Regional Gender and Social Inclusion Coordinator at Ripple Effect, formerly known as ‘Send A Cow’. Ripple Effect works with smallholder farmers to equip them with knowledge and skills enabling them to improve their livelihoods and thrive. Farmers working alongside Ripple Effect learn more, grow more and sell more. They can feed their families nutritious food, and by having a surplus to sell can invest in their farms, send their children to school and build sustainable agri-businesses. In this episode, Sofanit takes us through her journey working with women farmers in different African countries to deliver training programs that help them adapt to a changing climate. She explains how and why women and children are disproportionately affected by the impacts of climate change, and what Ripple Effect is doing to ease the burden on women, children and their households. Sofanit also explains how other stakeholders can come on board to support this kind of work, ensuring that more and more communities get support to build resilience and secure a healthy future for themselves and their children. Sofanit signs off the show by sharing what she wants the upcoming COP27 climate conference in Egypt to deliver in November. Enjoy the show! Learn more about Ripple Effect Linkedin | Facebook | YouTube | Twitter | Website [Note: I recently had the privilege to visit women farmers in Busia and Bungoma in the Western Region of Kenya. I learned a lot from them about methods to improve food production, and how these practices allowed them to better their lives and that of their families. Follow the Hali Hewa Podcast on social media to see these interviews] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Oct 27, 2022 • 1h 10min

174. These are Powerful Times

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism! In this episode, co-host Christiana Figueres is joined by an all-female cast. You’ll hear from climate activist Abigael (Abbie) Kima from Kenya about her recent visit with His Holiness, the Dalai Lama, and Isabel Cavelier, Colombian climate activist and recent recipient of the prestigious Climate Breakthrough Award, an initiative of the Climate Breakthrough Project.  We also feature music from the British indie rock duo, Penelope Isles. First, Abbie Kima brings Christiana up to date with her podcast, the Hali Hewa Podcast一“Hali ya Hewa” is Swahili for “climate”一covering indigenous people, women, and climate emergencies from the African perspective. Kima also recounts her extraordinary (collective) meeting with the Dalai Lama at the Mind & Life Institute in Dharamsala. She discusses his teachings about how oneness across all people is innately linked to global climate action. Next, Christiana chats with Isabel Cavelier about her fascinating climate journey. Isabel touches on her early work helping develop the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs一the United Nations framework for global peace and prosperity一her climate action organization Transforma, and her work in the climate movement today. They also touch on Cavelier’s Climate Breakthrough Award, one of the field's most distinguished honors.  Finally, we close the episode with indie rock band Penelope Isles's new release, “Underwater Record Store.”   See you next week!   NOTES AND RESOURCES    To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here. Shoutout to our very own Freya Newman on her research being published in Nature Communications!   Want to participate in the COP27 Civic Imagination Lab? REGISTER HERE   -   GUESTS   Abigael Kima LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook| YouTube | Instagram Listen to Abbie’s Hali Hewa Podcast   Isabel Cavelier Adarve LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook Learn more about Isabel’s award from Climate Breakthrough   Transforma LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram   -   MUSIC   Penelope Isles Twitter | Facebook | Instagram Clay’s Recommendation: Check out their LIVE KEXP and AudioTree Performances! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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